Thomas de Londres, Lord Kidwillyin

Ancestry of Thomas de London, lord of Kidwelly

Thomas de London, lord of Kidwelly in Carmarthenshire, Wales, (dead by 1221 per Weiss) married Eve and had Hawise de Londres who married Patrick de Chaworth.

The ancestry below of Thomas de London is supposed to come from Turton at 116. Can anyone confirm?

I believe the ancestry of Mabel de Cantelou is unknown but I obtained the following from Jim Weber's website, located at: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&i...

Generation No. 1

1. Thomas de Londres , of London, Lord of Kidwelly was born ABT 1183 in Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales.

He was the son of 2. Maurice de Londres , Lord of Kidwelly and 3. Mabel de Cantelou.

He married Eva FitzWarin AFT 1210 in 2nd husband, daughter of Maud de Clare. She was born ABT 1183 in England.

4Baron of Ogmar and Kidwelly

Thomas de Louders, summoned to the Parliament by the name of Thomas, Baron of Ogmore & Kidwelly, living during the reign of King John. He was the father of Hawise who married Patric de Carducis.

After the death of Thomas's brother, Maurice, the lordship of Kidwelly and the ownership of the Castle of Kidwelly seem to have passed to Thomas de Londres.

NOTES:

General Notes:

~The Visitation of the County of Nottingham, 1569 & 1614, "Chaworth Pedigree," pp. 123-124, Thomas de Louders, summoned to the Parliament by the name of Thomas, Baron of Ogmore & Kidwelly, living during the reign of King John. He was the father of Hawise who married Patric de Carducis. 987

~ A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, p. 111 779

~A History of Kidwelly, p. 23, "Londres Family Affecting the Lordship of Kidwelly" pedigree, gives William de Londres as the father of Simon, who was in turn the father of another William. This last William was the father of Maurice de Londres; Thomas de Londres, lord of Ogmore, Kidwelly and East Garston & the father of Hawise wife of Patrick de Cadurcis; and Henry de Londres, Archbisop of Dublin. 988

bullet Information about this person:

• Background Information. 988 After the death of Thomas's brother, Maurice, the lordship of Kidwelly and the ownership of the Castle of Kidwelly seem to have passed to Thomas de Londres.

~A History of Kidwelly, p. 23

a. Eve, wife of Oliver Tracy; her second marriage was to Thomas de London, and their daughter, Hawise de London, married Patrick de Chaworth.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3.htm#Patric...

d)         WALTER de Briouse (-after 8 Jul 1226).  Henry III King of England ordered the release of "Johannes, Egidius et Philippus et Walterus filii Willelmi de Braosa" dated [Jan] 1218[849].  Henry III King of England issued an order relating to a claim by the abbot of Gloucester against "Walterum de Braosa et Hawisiam uxorem eius" about "ecclesia de Hanendon" dated 8 Jul 1226[850].  m (Royal licence 11 Jul 1223) HAWISE de London, daughter of THOMAS de London & his wife Eva [de Tracy] (-after 8 Jul 1226).  Henry III King of England granted licence for the marriage of "Waltero de Braosa" and "Hawisie filie et heredis…Thome de London", with "honore de Kedewelli et de Cadewathlan…maritagium", dated 11 Jul 1223[851].  Henry III King of England issued an order relating to a claim by the abbot of Gloucester against "Walterum de Braosa et Hawisiam uxorem eius" about "ecclesia de Hanendon" dated 8 Jul 1226[852]. 

Baron of Ogmar and Kidwelly

Sources: 1.Title: scary.ged
Author: Susan (Poliksa) Cary scary @ infowest.com Publication: RootsWeb World Connect, db=poliksa Repository: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Oct 3, 2001

Birth: 1170 Kidwelly Carmarthenshire, Wales Death: 1250 Kidwelly Carmarthenshire, Wales

Thomas de Louders, summoned to the Parliament by the name of Thomas, Baron of Ogmore & Kidwelly, living during the reign of King John. He was the father of Hawise who married Patric de Carducis After the death of Thomas's brother, Maurice, the lordship of Kidwelly and the ownership of the Castle of Kidwelly seem to have passed to Thomas de Londres

Family links:

Spouse:

 Eve FitzWarin (1169 - ____)

Burial: Kidwelly Priory Kidwelly Carmarthenshire, Wales

Created by: Mad Record added: Dec 18, 2012 Find A Grave Memorial# 102307999

SOURCES:

• AR: 63A-29/30/31; SGM: Douglas Richardson.

Links

• Post by roger Jan 25, 2005, 9:48:39 PM https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/HR8CcQ06I4M?pli=1
• http://cybergata.com/roots/518.htm
• https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00587979&tree=LEO
• http://www.geneajourney.com/trcysud.html#evetracy
• http://www.mathematical.com/londresthomas1198.html
• http://www.ccsnyder.com/clan/snyder/family/report/ps47/ps47_130.htm