Tudur ap Gronwy

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Welsh Ancestry of the Tudor Dynasty; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id217.html. (Steven Ferry, April 8, 2020.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Ancestry of Owain Glyndwr; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id200.html. (Steven Ferry, September 13, 2020.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: Pedigree of Madog ap Idnerth; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id267.html; [#87;119]. (Steven Ferry, June 21, 2021.)

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Goronwy ap Tudur was married to Gwerfyl ferch Madog, daughter of Madog ap Dafydd, Baron of Hendwr. They were parents to Tudur Fychan, Lord of Pemmynydd (d. 1367)

Tudur Fychan married Margaret ferch Thomas. (Margaret was daughter to Thomas ap Llewelyn, Lord of Is Coed, South Wales and his wife Eleanor ferch Philip. Her paternal grandfather was Llewelyn ab Owain, Lord of Gwynnionith. The maternal grandfather was Philip ab Ifor, Lord of Is Coed.)

Llewelyn ab Owain's was the son of  Elennor of England countess of Bar and  Henry 111 de Bar. 

Eleanor of England's was the daughter of Edward the 1st, King of England (Longshanks) and Eleanor of Castile Queen consort of England.

Tudur and Margaret were parents to Maredudd ap Tudur (d. 1406);

This Tudor Vychan was the father of four sons, of whom the eldest, Gronw Vychan, was in favour with the Black Prince and with Richard II. He was forester of Snowdon and steward of the bishop of Bangor's lordship in Anglesey. He died in 1382, an infant son being heir to his lands in Penmynydd, whose sister carried them to her husband Gwylym ap Gmffydd of Penrhyn. Gronw Vychan,, whom a bard calls "a pillar of the court: the ardent pursuer of France," was probably the warrior whose effigy remains in the church at Penmynydd.

Gronw's brothers Gwylym and Rhys served Richard II. as captains of archers. Their youngest brother, Meredydd ap Tudor, escheator of Anglesey in 1392 and, like Gronw, an officer of the household of the bishop of Bangor, is said to have slain a man and fled to the wild country about Snowdon. He was the father of Owen ap Meredydd, commonly called Owen Tudor, a squire who appears at the court of the infant king Henry VI.

Nevertheless, striped of their royal Welsh titles the Tudors had royal lineage not only through Edward the 1st but through their Welsh ancestry as well.

See Darrell Wolcott, http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id92.html -- "The Pedigree of Ednywain Bendew" -- for untangling of these lines. (April 19, 2016, Anne Brannen, curator)

Relationship CD33~Margaret on this chart.

Tudur ap Goronwy (d.1367) was a Welsh nobleman and a member of the Tudor House of Penmynydd. His son Maredudd ap Tudur (d. 1406) was father of Owen Tudor. His other two sons, Rhys ap Tudur (d. 1409) and Gwilym ap Tudur (d. 1413) were important players in the uprising of Owain Glyndŵr, their first cousin.

Tudor Vychan ... He passed away in 1367. [1]

Another name for this gentleman is Tudor Fychan Ap Goronwy. Goronwy given name Tudor Fychan Ap Goronwy Lord of Pemmynydd. He is also called Tudor Vychan Ap Goronwy. Birth about 1310 in Pemnynydd, Wales. Death stated 1367 however it could be 1311> This date has him a Tudur Hen or Tudur ap Goronwy d. 1311[2] http://www.thepeerage.com/p10282.htm#i102815 Other sources Tudor Vychan;[3] 

Tudur ap Goronwy (died 1367) was a Welsh nobleman and a member of the Tudor House of Penmynydd. His son Maredudd ap Tudur (d. 1406) was father of Owen Tudor.

His other two sons, Rhys ap Tudur (d. 1409) and Gwilym ap Tudur (d. 1413) were important players in the uprising of Owain Glyndŵr, their first cousin.[4]

By his second wife, Margred ferch Thomas ap Llywelyn ab Owain, Tudur ap Gronwy ap Tudur had a son, Maredudd ap Tudur ap Gronwy, who was the father of Owain ap Maredudd ap Tudur (d. 1461), Clerk of the Wardrobe of Queen Catherine, widow of King Henry V.[5]

excerpt from The Encyclopædia Britannica: entry Tudor Family 

TUDOR (Family) The house of Tudor, which gave five sovereigns to England, is derived by all the Welsh genealogists from Ednyfed Vychan of Tregarnedd in Anglesey, who is named in 1232 as steward of Llywelyn, prince of North Wales, and seven years later as an arbitrator in a convention to which Davydd , the son of Llywelyn, was a party. His pedigree has been traced from Marchudd ap Cynan and beyond him, according to the veracious Lewys Dwnn, from Brutus, the great grandson of Aeneas. Gronw, or Gronwy, one of his younger sons had Trecastell for his portion. Tudor, son of Gronw, who lived to be called Tudor Hen or the old Tudor founded the Carmelite friary in Bangor and was grandfather of Tudor Vychan ap Gronw of Trecastell, who is said to have assumed the style of a knight, and to have had that rank confirmed to him by Edward III.

This Tudor Vychan was the father of four sons, of whom the eldest, Gronw Vychan, was in favour with the Black Prince and with Richard II. He was forester of Snowdon and steward of the bishop of Bangor's lordship in Anglesey. He died in 1382, an infant son being heir to his lands in Penmynydd, whose sister carried them to her husband Gwylym ap Gryffydd of Penrhyn. Gronw Vychan, whom a bard calls a pillar of the court the ardent pursuer of France, was probably the warrior whose effigy remains in the church at Penmynydd.

Gronw's brothers Gwylym and Rhys served Richard II as captains of archers. Their youngest brother Meredydd ap Tudor, escheator of Anglesey in 1392, and like Gronw an officer of the household of the bishop of Bangor is said to have slain a man and fled to the wild country about Snowdon. He was the father of Owen ap Meredydd, commonly called Owen Tudor, a squire who appears at the court of the infant king Henry VI. By all accounts he was a goodly young man: the chroniclers dwell upon the beauty which attracted the queen mother. She gave the handsome squire a postin her household . About 1428 or 1429, it must have been common knowledge that the presumptuous Welshman and the daughter of Charles VI of France were living as man and wife. There is no direct evidence for their marriage. An act had but lately been passed for making it a grave offence to marry with the queen dowager without the royal consent: this act is said to have been afterwards cut out from the statute book. Richard III denounced his rival Richmond as the son of a bastard, but it must be remembered that Richard was ready to foul the memory of his own mother in order to say the same of the young Edward V. But no one yet has found time or place of Owen Tudor's marriage with Catherine of France.

Five children were born to them the sons being Edmund and Jasper and another son who became a monk. In 1436, a date which suggests that Bedford had been Owen's protector the influence of Gloucester was uppermost. In that year the queen dowager was received within Bermondsey Abbey where she died in the following January. Her children were taken from her, and Owen Tudor the which dwelled with the said queen, was ordered to come into the king's presence. He had already seen the inside of Newgate gaol ,and he would not obey without a safe conduct. When he had the safe conduct sent him he came up from Daventry and went at once to sanctuary at Westminster, whence even the temptations of the tavern would not draw him. Allowed to go back to Wales, he was retaken and lodged again in Newgate. He broke prison again, with his chaplain and his man, the sheriffs of London having a pardon in 1438 for the escape from gaol of Owen ap Tuder, esquire and he returned to his native Wales. When Henry VI came of full age he made some provision for his step father, who took the red rose and fought manfully for it. But Mortimer's Cross was his last battle (Feb 4 1460/1). He fell into the hands of the Yorkists, who beheaded him in Hereford market place and set up his head on the market cross. Thither, they say, came a mad woman who combed the hair and washed the face of this lover of a queen, setting lighted wax torches round about it.[6]

 Sources  • National Library of Wales  • Tudor Family; edited by Hugh Chisholm. The Encyclopædia Britannica  • Tudur ap Goronwy Wikipedia entry 

 Footnotes  1.↑ Entered by Elizabeth Ross, Jul 13, 2011 2.↑ Tudor Hen entered by  Elizabeth Ross 3.↑ entered by  Elizabeth Ross 4.↑ I used the wikipedia article on Tudur ap Goronwy to begin my search for sources. entered 2013-12-09 by amb 5.↑ William Addams Reitwiesner, The Ancestors of Richard Vaughan, Bishop of London (d. 1607): A continuation of the ancestry of Henry Stratton and a plausible continuation of the ancestry of William Addams Reitwiesner, added 2015 March 11, amb 6.↑ Tudor Family The Encyclopædia Britannica; volume 27, page 362. edited by Hugh Chisholm. entered 2013-12-09 by amb