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вчера в 10:01 после полудня

Have multiple William HINE's been confused

William Hine, Free Settler "Sacramento" 1853 1823-1910 has 2 families

Family 1 with Alice Ann (Smith) Hine, Free Settler "Sacramento" 1853 have children born between 1845 and 1866 - some in England and some in Australia

Family 2 with Mary Burbidge have children born between 1876 and 1896

Does anyone have any sources for this family?

вчера в 10:05 после полудня

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184884158/william-hine
Buried in Victoria Australia
Died 30/8/1910
Aged 87 years. Son of William HINE and Annie TYREELL
Spouse Mary Elizabeth BURBIDGE

Gravestone

  • Alice HINE died 4/5/1874 aged 53 years
  • Bessie HINE died 20/3/1901 aged 15 years
  • William HINE (husband of M. E) died 30/8/1910 aged 87 years
  • Mary Elizabeth HINE (wife of William) died 4/10/1941 aged 88 years
вчера в 10:17 после полудня

Children on Geni (with Anne)

Children on Geni (with Mary)

Issues

  • Between 1854 and 1866 had children alternatively born in England and Australia (some in the same year)

When did the family emigrate to Australia - and which family members emigrated?

вчера в 10:37 после полудня

Looking in Victoria, Australia birth records for HINE children with a father William

  • James Henry born 1856 Glenmore - mother Alice SMITH
  • Jane Elizabeth born 1858 Glemires - mother Alice SMITH
  • Mary Hannah born 1862 Bacc - mother Alice SMITH
  • Alice Ann born 1876 Bacc - mother Mary Eliz BURBIDGE
  • Lydia Leah - born 1878 Bacc - mother Mary Elizabeth BURBIDGE
  • Robt Chas born 1880 B Msh - mother Mary Elizth BURBIDGE
  • Thomas George born 1882 Bacc - mother Mary Elzth BURBRIDGE
  • Mary Elizabeth born 1885 Bacc - mother Mary Elizabeth BURBIDGE
  • Agnes May born 1887 Bacc - mother Mary El BURBRIDGE
  • Hannah Phoebe born 1889 Bacchus Marsh - mother Mary Elizth BURBRIDGE
  • Gerte Constance born 1892 BMash - mother Mary Elizth BURBIDGE
  • Albt Wm born 1894 Bacchus Marsh - mother Mary Eliz BURBIDGE

Looking in Victoria, Australia death records for HINE children with a father William

  • Mary Hannah - died 1862 Glenmore Station aged 6 months, mother Alice SMITH
  • James Henry - died 1938 Bacchus Marsh aged 81, mother Alice SMITH
  • John Glennon - died 1843 Bendigo aged 88, mother Alice SMITH
  • William - died 1914 Geelong aged 69, mother Alice SMITH
  • Edward - died 1932 Dandenong aged 83, mother Alice SMITH
  • Mary Elizabeth - died 1901 Bacchus Marsh aged 15, mother Mary Elizabeth BURBIDGE
  • Thomas George - died 1975 Bunyip aged 92, mother Mary BURBIGE
  • Albert William Tyrrel died 1977 Bacchus Marsh aged 83, mother Elizabeth BURBRIDGE
  • Robert Charles died 1963 Bacchus Marsh aged 83, mother Mary Elizabeth BURBIDGE

Looking in Victoria, Australia marriage records for William HINE

  • William HYNE married Mary Elizabeth BURBIDGE in 1875

Victoria Death Record

  • Alice HINE died 1874 Bacchus Marsh aged 54, father Edward SMITH, mother Rebecca, spouse William HINE
  • Mary Elizabeth HINE died 1941 Rowsley aged 88, father Robert BURBIDGE, mother Lydia
вчера в 10:44 после полудня

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10151-26610610-/selena-h...
1851 England Census has

  • William HINE aged 29
  • wife Ann aged 26

children

  • Selina 2 years
  • Annetta 9 months

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10152-41102653-/selina-h... 1861 England Census has

  • William HINE aged 39
  • wife Ann aged 36

children

  • Selina aged 12
  • Annetta aged 10
  • Mary L aged 5
  • Ernest R aged 2
  • Egbert W aged 12 months

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10154-42450903-/selina-h... 1881 England Census

  • William HINE aged 59
  • wife Ann aged 56

children

  • Selina aged 32
  • Mary L aged 25
  • Ellen E aged 15

In 1881 we know that William HINE was in Australia married to Mary Elizabeth BURBRIDGE so this family is NOT his family.

вчера в 11:05 после полудня

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/90172344
The Bacchus Marsh Express - Sat 3 September 1910 - Page 2
Another link of the old pioneer settlers
of this district with the present day was
broken on Tuesday last, when Mr. Wil-
liam Hine, senior, died at his residence on
the racecourse road, where he had resided
during the greater part of his life. Had
he lived until next month (October) he
would have attained his 88th year. He
was born at Reading, England, and came
to Victoria in 1852, in the ill-fated sailing
vessel "Sacramento," which, after being
nearly six months on the voyage out, was
wrecked at Port Phillip heads in sight of
land. Fortunately, no lives were lost, but
Mr. Hine, with his then wife and three
children, lost all their belongings. Not
withstanding this early set-back, Mr. Hine
obtained employment at Glenmore and
Greystones, and afterwards bought the
property on which he died. He was twice
married, and leaves a large grown-up
family of sons and daughters, of which
there are numerous descendants. He was
a particularly kindly Englishman, who
made no enemies.

вчера в 11:19 после полудня

With the family emigrating to Australia in 1853 (arrived 27/4/1853) and having a son in Australia in 1854 it is not possible for George S Hine born in 1854 in England to be their son.

вчера в 11:34 после полудня

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10153-6589098-/thomas-hi...
1871 England Census
Relation to head Name Age
Head William Hine 48
Wife Ann Hine 50
Son Thomas Hine 21
Sister Eliza Hine 52

This is a different William HINE family

вчера в 11:41 после полудня

I have detached all the children that belong to other HINE families and added sources

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