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Beatrice de Poynings (de Sussex)

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Birthplace: Poynings, Sussex, England (United Kingdom)
Death: 1147 (38-39)
Pangdean, Sussex, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:

Daughter of ? de Sussex and ? de Sussex
Wife of Adam 'the Elder' de Poynings, l
Mother of Adam "the Younger" de Poynings, ll; John De (Puninges) Poynings; William Poynings and Albreda de Poynings

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About Beatrice de Poynings (born de Sussex)

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Beatrice St. John-di Molise
Suffix de Port
Born 1057-1074
BEATRICE di Molise . "Rodulfus cognomina de Molisio…comes patriæ Bovianensis" donated the church of Santa Cruce d'Isernia to Monte Cassino, for the souls of "Ugonis filii mei et Rogerii et Roberti nepotis mei filii Roberti filii mei…patris mei Guimundi et matris meæ Emma et filiorum meorum Robberti et Rodulfi et Wilielmi nec non et Alferadæ uxoris meæ iam defunctæ et filiarum mearum Adelicza et Beatricis", by charter dated Mar 1092[857].

[857] Stasser (2008), p. 95, quoting Gattola (1734), p. 207.
Gender Female
Generation 04
Name Beatrice St. John
Beatrice di Molise
Beatrice de Port
Beatrice de Rye
Beatrice de Poynings
Beatrice Sinclair
Beatrice de Campes
Siblings 7 Siblings
Oldest Known Ancestors
Paternal Line: CHLCA Phylogenetic Ancestral Tree
Maternal Line: Alberada de Buonalbergo, b. abt. 1015
Person ID SSH12436 St. John Origin and Ancestry DNA Database | St. John Generation One - Raoul de Sancto Johanne
Last Modified 18 Jul 2021

Father Private
Relationship Birth
Mother Alferada de Hauteville, di Guardia, b. abt. 1037, Normandy, France d. bef. 1088, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 50 years)
Relationship Birth
8 children
Family ID F399923 Group Sheet | Family Chart

Husband Adam son of Hubert de Port, Seneschal for Odo de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux; 1086 Domesday, b. abt. 1050, d. 1130-1133 (Age ~ 83 years)
Married 1072-1088 Normandy, France
Notes for Adam de Poynings and Beatrix
Research Notes:

"Adam de Poynings" married Beatrix. In the "temp. Steph., gave Church of Poynings to St. Pancras" Their children were Adam, William (d.s.p), John (d.s.p.), and Alberta, who married "De Querceto (Ockley?), witness to her brother's charter." [1]

Complete Peerage states,

William (son of Rainald) was the tenant of William de Warenne in 1086 in Poynings, Pangdean, and elsewhere in Sussex, in Foulden, Norfolk, and in Wrentham and elsewhere in Suffolk.(a) Although there is no evidence to prove that he was the lineal ancestor, he was certainly the predecessor in Sussex(b) of Adam de Poynings, who with Beatrice his wife and Adam their son gave to Lewes Priory the churches of Poynings and Pangdean, with 12 solidates of land in specified places in Sussex and 5 messuages in Lewes, which gifts were confirmed by William, (third) Earl de Warenne, 1138-47.(c) Adam de Poynings the elder died ante 1148.(d)

(a) Domesday Book, vol. i, ff. 27, 27 b; vol. ii, ff. 167-167 b, 399 b, 400 b.
(b) His holdings in Foulden and Wrentham are also found in the Poynings family at a later date; an account of the lands which formed the fees held of the honor of Warenne by this family is given in Farrer, Honors and Knights' Fees, vol. iii, p. 327 et seq.
(c) P.R.O. Anc. Deed A 14201; Lewes Chartulary, Sussex Rec. Soc, pt. 1, p. 30, and pt. 2, p. 61. "… ego Willelmus comes de Warenna concedo et confirmo … donationes quas dederunt … Adam et Beatrix uxor ejus et Adam filius eorum . . . dono etiam illis servitium quod ad me pertinet, et Adam et heredes ejus inde clamo quietos." The headings in the Chartulary texts describe Adam as Adam de Ponynges, and there is no doubt that this is correct. The charter suggests that Adam made his gifts with the assent of Beatrice his wife and Adam their son, and that therefore Adam the younger was his heir; further that Adam the elder was alive when the confirmation was issued.
(d) See p. 657, note "a" infra.

Adam de Poynings the younger, s. and h.,(a) confirmed to Lewes Priory the 12 solidates of land and the messuages mentioned above

(a) Adam the elder had two other sons, John and William, who according to the deduction made ante, p. 656, note "'c," were yr. sons. John witnessed as John de Puninges a Norfolk charter of the (third) Earl to Lewes Priory (Chartulary, pt. i, p. 61); and, as John de Punigges, in company with the (third) Earl, another Norfolk charter to the priori (Chartulary, Norfolk Portion, Norfolk Rec. Soc, no. 3). After his death several benefactions were made to his memory. The (third) Earl made a gift to Castle Acre Priory for his soul (Chartulary, Harl. MS. 2110, f. 5); and confirmed the gift made to Lewes Priori by William and Adam sons of Beatrice de Puningis for the soul of John their brother, namely 10s. from Poynings mill (Chartulary, pt. 1, p. 62). This latter gift was confirmed by Adam de Ponnynges (the younger), describing it as made by William his brother and Beatrice his mother for the soul of John his brother (Idem, pt. 2, p. 29). Another commemorative gift was made by William de Chesney and Aubreve his wife (Idem, pt. 2, p. 62), which Aubreye is described as sister of Adam son of Adam de Punyngis in a charter post 1164 (Idem, pt. 2, p. 60). This evidence suggests that John died after his father Adam the elder, who must therefore have died during the tenure of the Earldom by the third Earl, and before his departure for the crusade in 1147.

Footnotes:
[1] Thomas Agar Holland, "Poynings," Sussex Archaeological Collections 15 (1863), 1-56 at 14, [GoogleBooks].

[2] George E. Cokayne, H. A. Doubleday, Howard de Walden, eds., The Complete Peerage, rev., Vol. 10, Oakham to Richmond (London: St. Catherine Press, 1945).

Citation: Robert and Janet Chevalley Wolfe, Janet and Robert Wolfe Genealogy, "Notes for Adam de Poynings and Beatrix"
Age at Marriage She was 14 years - He was 38 years
Children
+ 1. Emma de Port, of Seamer, Scarborough,Yorkshire; alleged daughter m.William Percy, b. abt. 1088 [Putative]
+ 2. Hugh de Port, of Ketton (Domesday 1086), b. abt. 1089 [Birth]

	3. Ralph de Port, named Nephew of Thomas St. John in 1121,   b. abt. 1090  [Birth]
	4. Adelaide de Port,   b. abt. 1091  [Birth]

+ 5. Roger de Port, b. abt. 1092 [Birth]

	6. William de Poynings,   b. abt. 1093, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [Birth]
	7. Robert de Port,   b. abt. 1095  [Birth]
	8. John de Poynings,   b. abt. 1096  [Birth]
	9. Aubreye de Poynings, m. William de Chesney,   b. abt. 1098,   d. aft. 1164  (Age ~ 67 years)  [Birth]
	10. Adam de Poynings,   b. abt. 1100,   d. 1198-1202  (Age ~ 102 years)  [Birth]

Last Modified 30 Sep 2020
Family ID F5096

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Beatrice
Marriage: Sir Adam de Poynings Knight 141,1262
Noted events in her life were:

Background Information. 141
Adam the elder had two other sons, John and William, who according to the deduction made "Ante", were younger sons. John witnessed as John de Puninges a Norfolk charter of the (third) Earl to Lewes Priory, and as John de Punigges, in company with the (third) Earl, another Norfolk charter to the priory. After his death several benefactions were made to his memory. The (third) Earl made a gift to Castle Acre Priory for his soul; and confirmed the gift made to Lewes Priory by William and Adam sons of Beatrice de Puningis for the soul of John their brother, namely 10 marks, from Poynings mill. This latter gift was confirmed by Adam de Ponnynges (the younger), describing it as made by William his brother and Beatrice his mother for the soul of John his brother. Another commemorative gift was made by William de Chesney and Aubreye his wife, which Aubreye is described as sister of Adam son of Adam de Pynyngis in a charter post 1164. This evidence suggests that John died after his father Adam the elder, who must therefore have died during the tenure of the Earldom by the third Earl, and therefore before his departure for the crusade in 1147.

Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, Vol. X, p. 657, footnote (a)

Beatrice married Sir Adam de Poynings Knight, son of William de Poynings and Unknown 141.,1266 (Sir Adam de Poynings Knight was born about 1100 in Poynings, Steyning, Sussex, England and died before 1147 in England 141.)

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Beatrice de Poynings (born de Sussex)'s Timeline

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Poynings, Sussex, England (United Kingdom)
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Pangdean, Sussex, England (United Kingdom)
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Age 39
Pangdean, Sussex, England (United Kingdom)