Hendrick Hendricksen Kipp

Name written Kype previously.

Came to New Amsterdam before 1643 with his wife (probably Tryntje Droogh) and five children. That he was a man of consequence is shown by the fact his arms were painted on one of the stained glass windows in the first Dutch church of New York. He was a tailor by occupation and is sometimes called Henry Snyder Kip. He received a patent, 28 April 1643, of a lot east of the fort on the present Bridge Street near Whitehall, where he built a house and shop. Being incensed by the cruelty of Director General Kieft, by whose order more than one hundred Indians, men, women and children were brutally massacred, he boldly opposed the Director General and refused to join in any recognition of him. The latter was very shortly recalled and immediately thereafter Kip became a leading man in the community.

He was appointed a member of Governor Stuyvesant's council, Sept 25, 1647 and again in 1649-50. He was appointed schepen, or magistrate, Feb 2, 1656 and admitted to all rights and privileges of a burgher, April 11, 1657. He subscribed to the oath of allegiance to the British government, October 1664, and was assessed with others in the following year to pay for maintenance of soldiers in the garrison. Both he and his wife were members of the Dutch church. He died at Kippenburg, the date unrecorded and the location unknown. Children: Baertje, Isaac, Jacob, Tryntje, Hendrick, Femmetje, baptised 19 Apr 1643 in New Amsterdam.(p.1131-32)

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Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip (Kype), probable son of Hendrick, is the ancestor of the Kip family in America. The records of his marriage and baptism of his children, in Amsterdam, translated in to English, are as follows: "Heyndrik Heyndrixsz, 20 April 1624." as "Appeared before (before the commissaries of marriage) Heyndrik Heyndrixsz of Niewenhuys (born there), tailor, 24 years of age, assisted by his brother-in-law, Blomert Sandart, living 9 years in Servetsteech (alley), and Tryntie Lubberts of Swoll, 25 years of age, orphan, living from her youth in Angelierstraat (street), assisted by her cousin, Annetie Heyndriz. Requesting their three Sunday proclamations (banns) to let them solemnize their marriage, if there are no obstacles. And after having declared, according to the truth that they were free persons (bachelor and spinster) and not related by blood, which would prevent a Christian marriage, their proclamations are allowed. (Signed) Heyndrick Heyndricksen. (Signed) Trincke Lubbers.

(Specific spelling forms hadn't yet been adopted.)

( t's been written that Hendrick had been married three times; to Tryntje Lubberts (1624); to Tryntje Droogle second, and third to Margaret Marneil. The truth of the matter is , undoubtedly, that Margaret was the wife of his father, and that the Tryntjes were one and the same person. The lack of surnames in Holland made it possible for a person to be known by various surnames. We read that in 1647, Jacob Kip (son of Hendrick Hendrickson), gave his uncle, Harmon Droogh, a power of attorney to receive money due to him from the West India company. This would make it appear that Harmon Droogh (not Droogle, as above) was a brother of Tryntje Lubbers, or Droogh.) The English equivalent for the Dutch word "Kip" is Hen, or Chicken. This was perhaps accounted for from the fact that a game cock was once used on the crests that surmounted the arms of the first of the family of (text not complete for the next two paragraphs) though it seems to say that in this generation the spelling of the family name seems to have been fixed. In the previous two hundred years it had been ?? Kippenburg and Kip. On first coming to this country it was [being?] so signed by Henry Kype to public documents, anno 1643. (Callaghan's History).

• with 92 others, co-signed the Remonstrance that convinced Stuyvesant to surrender New Netherland to the British in 1664.

See Royal Charter granted by Governor ?? anno 1686, and that of Governor Montgomery 1730, where members of the family are mentioned as Officers under the Crown and where the name is Anglicized to Kip, which fixed the spelling. Some writers have confused the two Hendrick Kips, calling the American immigrant a son of Ruloff De Kype. According to Dutch nomenclature, if such were the fact, his name would have been Hendrick Roeloffszen. The immigrant was named Hendrick Hendrickszen, which means, "the son of Hendrick". Those writers have left out one generation. History shows the birth of one Hendrick in 1576, and the next one in 1600. Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip came to New Amsterdam prior to 1643, with his wife Tryntje (anglicized Catherine) and his children, six in number, if all who were born in Holland were alive. Another child, Femmetje, was born in New Amsterdam, as the father's name appeared at her baptism, 19 April 1643, as Mr. Hendrick Hendricksz. He was perhaps of noble lineage, as it is related that the arms of the family were painted on the stained-glass windows of the first church erected in New Amsterdam. They were also carved in stone over the door of the Kip's Bay house, built in 1655 by Jacob Kip. The Kip family is one of the oldest in New York, and as it was among the earliest, so it was likewise one of the most respectable in New Amsterdam. After the lapse of two hundred and forty years, but little change has occurred in the spelling of the name, the chief and only one which we are aware of being the addition of another "p", by a limited number of some of the different branches of the family. Washington Irving, in his parody of history, "Knickerbocker's History of New York", Book 2, Chapter 4, uses Hendrick Kip as the subject for a humorous episode. While the voyagers were looking around them on what they conceived to be a serene and sunny lake, they beheld at a distance a crew of painted savages busily employed in fishing, who seemed more like the genii of this romantic region, their slender canoe lightly balanced like a feather on the undulating surface of the bay. At sight of these the hearts of the heroes of Communipaw were not a little troubled. But as good fortune would have it, at the bow of the commodore's boat was stationed a very valiant man, named Hendrick Kip (which being interpreted means "chicken", a name given him in token of his courage.) No sooner did he behold these heathen varlets than he trembled with excessive valor, and although a good half mile distant he seized a musketoon that lay at hand, and turning away his head, fired it most intrepidly in the face of the blessed sun. The blundering weapon recoiled and gave the valiant Kip an ignominious kick, that laid him prostrate with uplifted heels in the bottom of the boat. Such was the effect of this tremendous fire that the wild men of the woods, struck with consternation, seized hastily upon their paddles and shot away into one of the deep inlets of the Long Island shore. This signal victory gave new spirits to the hardy, and in honor of the achievement they gave the name of the valiant Kip to the surrounding bay, and it has continued to be called Kip's Bay from that time to the present." Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip was a tailor, his name appearing sometimes in the record simply as Hendrick the tailor, and again as Hendrick Snyder (tailor) Kip. On the 28th of April 1643 he obtained a patent for a lot east of the fort, in the present Bridge Street near Whitehall, where he erected his dwelling house and shop. He was a man of strong character and fearless disposition and was fitfully described by Stedman in his poem on "The Nine Men of New Amsterdam" as "Hendrick Kip of the haughty lip". The indiscriminate massacre of one hundred and ten defenseless Indians, men, women and children at Corlaer's Hook and Pavonia, on the night of 25 February 1643, instigated and ordered by Director - General Kieft, aroused in the breast of Hendrick Kip a feeling of extreme hatred for that official and he boldly urged that he should be deposed and sent back to Holland. On 6 May 1643, Samuel Chandler made the affidavit that he heard Hendrick the tailor say: "he Kivit (meaning "pee-wit" or "lapwing", a play upon Kieft's name and character) ought to be packed off to Holland in the "Peacock", with a letter of recommendation to Master Gerrit (the public executioner), and a pound, Flemish, so that he may give him a nobleman's death. (In those days, noblemen were beheaded and the commoners hung.) However, Kieft was drowned on his way to Holland, and escaped both those deaths. On 30 August 1645 the Court Messenger was ordered to notify the inhabitants to assemble in the fort when the colors are hoisted and the bell rung, to hear the proposals of a treaty of peace about to be concluded with the Indians. The Messenger reported that all the citizens of Manhattan "from the highest to the lowest" would attend, as they all had answered kindly, except one Hendrick Kip, the tailor. While the entire community were willing to show some respect for Kieft on this public occasion, the sturdy old burgher alone exhibited contempt for the "man of blood", and refused to do him honor. (He is spoken of as "old burgher", but he was only 45 years of age.) The new Governor, Stuyvesant, arrived in May 1647. More sensible that Kieft, he called for an election to the "Tribunal of Well-born Men", usually nine in number. Kip was chosen in the years 1647, 1649, and 1650. A good deal of trouble arose between Stuyvesant and the Nine Men, and a remonstrance from the people, signed by a committee of eleven of the leading citizens, including Kip, was sent to the Hague (in Holland). In 1653 New Amsterdam was incorporated as a city. Hendrick Kip was appointed a Schepen (alderman), 2 February 1656, and 11 April 1657, he was admitted to the rights of a Great Burgher. About twenty families formed the Great Citizenship, &c. These twenty families comprised the aristocracy of New York, then having a population of about 800 souls. Records show that Hendrick Kip took an active part in the government under the Dutch rule, and after the surrender to the English, he took the oath of allegiance in October 1664. The name of Hendrick Kip, Sr., appears in the list of citizens who were assessed 19 April 1665 to pay the board and lodging of soldiers belonging to the city garrison. This is the last mention found of him. The names of Hendrick and Tryntje Kip are recorded in the list of the Dutch Church of New Amsterdam. Opposite his name, Domine Setyne has written "obyt (died) op Kippenburg", but the date is not given. (Kippenburg was the name of Jacob Kip's farm at Kip's Bay, and Hendrick lived there. In his will he says "residing at the house of his son, Mr. Jacob Kip, at Kipsbury." Concerning his wife, the following is taken from the Court proceedings at New Amsterdam, 29 September 1644: "William de Key vs. Hendrick Kip; action for slander; ordered that the defendant's wife appear next Thursday and acknowledge in court, that what she said to the prejudice of the plaintiff is false, and not to repeat the offense on pain of severe punishment." She probably acknowledged her fault, whatever it may have been , as ordered by the court, as we find no further account of the matter. On 17 December 1646 the "Schout - Fiscal" charged her before the court with calling the Director (Kieft) and Council, false judges and the Fiscal a foresworn Fiscal. Hendrick Kip states that his wife has been so upset and so out of health ever since Maryn Adriaensen's attempt to murder the Director General (21 March 1643), that when disturbed in the least she knows not what she does. Mrs. Kip denied the charge and the parties are ordered to produce evidence on both sides. What further proceedings, if any, in the case were taken, the records fail to disclose. She and her husband were sponsors, July 1657, at the baptism of Anthony, son of Jan Jansen St. Obyn, which is the last notice of her, where her identity can be clearly established. WILL OF HENDRICK (HENDRICKSZEN) KIP. In the name of the Lord, Amen. Know all those who shall see this present public instrument that (in the year) 1654 after the birth of our Lord and Saviou Jesus Christ, on the 2nd of February, before me, Willem Bogardus, notary public, residing in New York, admitted by teh Right Honorable Thomas Dongan, Governor General on the part of his Royal Highness James, Duke of York and Albany, etc., of New York and the dependencies thereof in America, in the presence of the witnesseth hereinafter named, came and appeared in his own person, the worthy Mr. Hendrick Kip, residing at the house of his son, Mr. Jacob Kip, at Kipsberry, being in full possession of his mind and faculties, who considering the frailty and mortality of man, the certainty of death and the uncertain hour thereof, and wishing to forestall the said uncertain hour thereof by testamentary disposition, has therefore made his last will and testament and disposed in the manner hereinafter written. Commanding first of all his immortal soul to the merciful hands of God Almighty, and his dead body to the earth and a Christian burial, and in the second place revoking, canceling and making null and void all previous testaments and other instruments of last will hereto fore made or executed (by him) in any way, and now disposing anew, the testator declares that for good reasons and purposes him thereunto moving, he leaves and bequeathes in advance, as a pre-legacy and before any division is made, to his son Jacob Kip all his clothes, woolens and linen, without exception, which shall have served and belonged to his body; also all his paintings, large and small, none of them reserved; also all the printed books, a large and small extension table, all the chairs and chair cushions; also a mug rack with all the mugs, large and small, a lantern, a mirror, a pewter beaker, a pewter chamber pot, two pairs of spectacles, a pewter tankard, and a small silver mug. Likewise to his daughter Tryntie Kips, married to Abraham Jans, the clothes press, a small cupboard, the bed now used by the testator, two pillows, a bolster, two old white blankets and green curtains. Also to Catherine Kips, daughter of his son Jacob, a silver spoon, which the testator uses daily. Furthermore, to his three children all the remaining furniture and household effects, to wit, to each a like and equal share. And as to the other and remaining assets and credits, of whatever nature they be or wherever the same may be situated, none excepted the testator appoints and institutes as his sole and universal heirs his three children, namely, Baertie, Jacob and Tryntie, together with the children of his deceased son Isaac, representing one share, and the children of his deceased son Hendrick, also representing one share, in order that all the aforesaid property may be divided and partitioned into five equal and corresponding shares, both by the daughters and [sons imm]ediately after the death of the testator, without the eldest son or [daughter?]s having the right or claim or to enjoy any prerogative or privilege ?? in the matter; with the understanding that the child or children [that] are of legal age or married are to receive their portion, but that the portion of the minor child or children is to remain under the control of their already appointed or chosen guardians, to be employed [and sup]plied to their utmost benefit, and the portion or inheritance [that?] his daughter Baertie is to inherit from him shall be received [and?] disposed of by her, or her child or children, and by no one else, [the s]aid testator wishing and ordaining that the portions which the children of his son Isaacq, deceased, and his son Hendrick Kip, deceased [are to?] inherit from him shall be paid and satisfied to them or their [guardi?]ans by his son Jacob Kip out of the moneys of the house purchase[d by] him, and that the portion of his daughter Baertie shall be paid [by Abra?]ham Jans out of the moneys of the house sold to him. Furthermore, it is the testator's will and express desire, inasmuch as he sold [hou]se and lot to his son Jacob for the sum of six thousand guilders ( equal to $2400), that now this is to be and that he shall have to [{possibly?} add to] it no more than the sum of five thousand guilders, and no more, [??] this for good reasons him thereunto moving. Further it is the testator's express will and desire that his son Jacob Kip is to have absolute charge of all arrangements to have the testator decently buried, the expense of which must be defrayed first [??] of the moneys and ready cash which the testator has in the [custodianship] of Abraham Jans, and whatever is lacking must be paid out of the purchase money of the houses or out of the rent thereof, without any [??] of it falling on the shoulders of his son Jacob Kip, or any [???]ant being presented to him therefor on account of any promise or [pet-; cond-]ition made in connection with it. Further, the testator appoints and institutes as executor of this, his testament, his aforesaid son [Jacob] Kip, with such absolute power and authority as all testamentary [???]tors have according to law and reason. All that is hereinbefore [giv?]en having been clearly read to the testator he declares the same [to be] his final and last will, which he wishes and desires after his [death] to have full force and effect, notwithstanding some formalities [???]red by law may not have been observed herein, considering the [???] however, as inserted in the most effective and usual manner. [?????]ness whereof this is signed and sealed at Kipsberry aforesaid, day, month and year as above written. Hendrick Kip. (L.S.) Frederick Elsworth Kip says; "The minutes of the Directors of Amsterdam, Holland, record that "Henrick Henrickson Snijder (tailor) requests [an a]ccount of Henrick Jansen Snijder according to the bill of ex-[???] dated August 15 1635, &c." Both this record and the baptisms of [??]ildren recorded in Amsterdam, Holland, prove that he was living there before 1636, and he came to America about 1637 with his wife and five children, as on the map of New Netherland of 1639 he is recorded as owning one of the plantations"...."Hendrick Kip's house, in its garden of about sixty-five feet front upon Bridge Street, was occupied by him for many years and upon adjoining land in Stone Street his two sons, Isaac and Jacob Kip, and his son-in-law, Jan Jansen van St. Obyn, built houses for themselves. Hendrick Kip bought other property also." "In those early times the first settlers, irrespective of rank, were tailors and coopers, carpenters and innkeepers, as must be the case when a colony is built up in a wilderness, so it does not surprise us that Hendrick Kip, one of the leading men of his day, was a tailor!" "He was a politician and was one of the popular party which in those times opposed the bloody Director Kieft, who had provoked the Indians into a war which made the whole community fear being murdered by their savage neighbors." (Who were the savages?!?jwb)

Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip and his wife, Tryntje Lubbers had: Issue. Writers differ in the list, but the Amsterdam records, as already quoted, show: 1. Abraham, bp. 8 May 1625 2. Isaac bp. 10 January 1627 3. Jacob bp. 16 May 1631 4. Baertjen bp. 5. Hendrick bp. 14 August 1633 6. Tryntje bp. 8 June 1636 The New Amsterdam records show, 7. Femmetje, bp. 19 April 1643. Of these children, Abraham and Femmetje, were evidently deceased when [their f]ather made his will in 1654, as they are not mentioned. There [was a ?] daughter, Baertie, according to the will, living in 1654, and was [older] than Jacob, perhaps, as her name comes first in the will. It seems [very] probable that the person who copied the baptismal record over [looked] one child, born perhaps in 1629, as there is a gap of four years [between] Isaac and Jacob, and in so many early families the interval [between] births was quite regularly two years. Then, if Baertie was [born in] 1629 she was twenty years of age at the time of her marriage, as [we have] seen. [There] is a Baertje Hendricks, a "young woman from Amsterdam", who [married] in New Amsterdam, Jan Jansen, a "young man from Tubingen", on 16 January 1648/49. Her husband's name is also given as Jan Jansen Van St. [Obyn], alias Jan Wanshaer, and other names. She married, 2nd, 12 December 1677 Jan Kirkszen (Meyer), as 2nd wife. She had issue by first marriage, Wan[shaer]: Abraham, Johannes, 1st., Jacob, Hendrick, Anthony, Robert, Johannes 2nd, Johannes 3rd., Jan, Caral, and Jacomyntie.

(NOTE) There are grave discrepancies in the history of Isaac Kip and Hendrick Kip, sons of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip, as the father's will devises property to the children of these sons, then deceased. Amsterdam records show the baptism of Femmetje, another daughter. In the will appears the name of a daughter, Baertie, then living. The will mentions Isaac and Hendrick, as deceased, leaving children, yet Isaac was married 1st, in 1653. No mention is made of Femmetje. Now history shows that Isaac was living long after 1654, and Hendrick was not married until 1660. It is also said that Femmetje joined the church in New Amsterdam 2 January 1661, and was a sponsor 13 July 1667, at the baptism of Jacomyntie, daughter of Jan de Caper, alias Wanshaer, which is the last notice found of her. In a foot note to Purple's history, he says that Hendrick Kip, the son of Ruloff, the 2nd, born in 1576, took an active part in the Company of Foreign Countries, &c., and that he came to New Amsterdam in 1635 with his children, and some years after, returned to Holland, where he died. His sons remained in New Amsterdam, and rose to important positions as citizens and landed proprietors. He married Margaret de Marneil and had issue; Hendrick, who married Ana De Sille; Jacobus, who married Maria De La Montagne; and Isaac, who married Catalina de Snyder, &c. In the body of the history he goes on to give the history in full of Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip, with his issue, as Baertie, born in Amsterdam, Isaac, Jacob, Tryntje, Hendrick and Femmetje. He has given the two Hendricks as one person instead of father and son. ([In]cidentally, it is possible that in the baptismal record, the first child was given as Abraham, was copied wrong, as was Baertie. The above extracts of history from different authors show that implicit confidence should not always be placed upon historical statements, unless proven by public records.)

Isaac Hendrickson Kip had issue, Hendrick, bp. 8 February 1654. He and his brother Jacobus were co-patentees of the Manor of Kipsburg, a tract of land on the east side of the Hudson River, where Rhinebeck now stands, extending four miles along the river and several miles inland. This patent dated 2 June 1688, confirmed an Indian title to the land given 28 July 1686. He was probably the Lieut. Hendrick Kip of Capt. Baltus Van Kleeck's Company of Foot, in 1700, one of the eight Militia companies of Ulster and Dutchess counties. He married and had a number of children who settled in the vicinity of Rhinebeck. Tryntie, daughter of Isaac Hendrickszen Kip, bp. 13 September 1658 married 5 January 1676 Philip De Forest, son of Isaac and Sarah (du Triaux) De Forest. Philip was bp. 28 July 1652. He was a cooper and removed from New York about 1680 to the Manor of Rensselaerwyck, and was buried in Albany 18 August 1727. Issue, Sarah, Susanna, Matje, Isaac, Jesse, Catrina, Johannes, David and Abraham. Abraham Kip, bp. 3 September 1659, removed from New York to Albany where he married 16 October 1687 Cossis Van der Heyden. He was buried in Albany 28 June 1731. Issue; Isaac, Anna, Catalyntie, Jacob and Cornelius, twins; Geertruy and Catherina, twins. Isaac, bp. 15 January 1662. Jacob, bp 29 August 1666. He is probably the Jacobus Kip, born 25 August 1666, mentioned by Holgate as the co-patentee with Hendrick, of the Manor if Kipsburg, and who died 28 February 1753. He married Rachel Swartout and had issue Isaac, Roeloff and Catalyntie. (This does not agree with the history of Jacobus at the top of this page -- another blunder by somebody! note of Frank Edgar Weeks) Johannes, bp 20 January 1669. (Just before this, at Tryntie (bp. 1658), F.E.Weeks started using numbers. I won't since there's no pattern before.) Jacob Hendrickszen Kip, son of Hendrick Hendrickszen Kip, born in Amsterdam 16 May 1631 (page 150 in an unnamed article). In 1647 he gave to Harman Droogh, his uncle, a power of attorney to receive money due him from the West India Company at Amsterdam. The same year he was clerk in the provincial Secretary's office at New Amsterdam, and as early as December 1649 was acting clerk in Director Stuyvesant's Council. he was appointed 27 January 1653 the first Secretary of the Court of Burgomasters and Schepens of New Amsterdam. Upon resignation of that office 12 June 1657, he engaged in brewing, combining with this business that of general trader or storekeeper. He was a member of the Board of Schepens in 1659, 62, 63, 65, and 1673, and was president of the board in 1674. On the first of March 1660 he with a number of other men, all resident of the Wallboght neighborhood, petitioned the Director for permission to form a village on the margin of the river between the lands of said Bogart and Kip,so, as they expressed it"we may be in sight of the Manhattans, or Fort Amsterdam." The position selected was probably the elevated point of land which jutted into the river about the foot of South Fourth Street, in the present Eastern District of Brooklyn, and which is known as the "Keike" [?? printing unclear] or "Lookout" (The Dutch word for lookout now is uitkijk). There is no evidence, remarks the learned historian of Brooklyn, that Jacob Kip ever resided on the lands above referred to, and "it was probably owing to his desire to improve the value of his real estate by securing the establishment of a village thereon, that this petition was made", and through his influence with the authorities, was granted. In early times some member of the Kip family -- was it Jacob or his father? -- obtained a patent for a farm of 150 acres, on the East River, on what is still known as Kip's bay. It is said that Jacob Kip in 1655, the year after his marriage, erected on this farm a house which was rebuilt in 1696, and was, for a short time during the Revolution, Washington's headquarters. It stood upon the line of 35th Street, and was demolished in 1851. His house in the city was built in 1657, and was situated in the present Exchange Place. He owned a number of city houses and lots, and in 1665 resided in the present Broad Street, near Exchange Place, and was there probably as late as 1674. In 1686 he was living "Beyond the Fresh Water", the Kip's Bay farm doubtless being the place alluded to. From a (recent) post to the Dutch-Colonies list: Subj: The tailors vs Kieft (was Re: SNYER(S) to SNYDER?? ) Date: 03/16/2000 3:21:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: hswain@ix.netcom.com (Howard Swain) To: Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all,

At 02:23 PM 3/15/00 -0500, lschulze@bconnex.net wrote:

Here is what J.H. Innes says in "New Amsterdam and it's People:
Studies, Socila and Topographical of theTown under Dutch and
early English Rule' (New York, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1902)

In point form:

- 27 May 1638 Hendrick was prosecuted for slander of the Dir.
Kieft. His defense was that he had been asleep when he uttered
the slander.

- in 1642 he was "very drunk" at a gathering at Burger Jorissen's
house and complained about Kieft in front of witnesses. He was
arrrested and ordered to be put in irons and kept imprisoned for one
month, then sentenced to banishment.

p. 230
- he was ordred to leave June 1643 on Prince Maurice but he
avoided leaving.

- 29 Sept 1644 he was fined 500 guilders for slandering Kieft and
his "son in law Gillis Pietersen gave his promissory note" for this
amount

Hendrick Janszen wasn't the only tailor who disliked Kieft.

From The Kip Family in America p. 31:

"Hendrick Kip was a man of strong character and fearless disposition, and was fitly described by Stedman in his poem on "The Nine Men of New Amsterdam" as 'Hendrick Kip of the haughty lip.'" (Does anyone know where this poem has been printed?)

"He [Hendrick Kip] seems to have possessed a sense of humor, however, as May 6, 1643, Samuel Chandelaer made affidavit that he heard Hendrick the tailor say: "The Kivit (meaning 'pee-wit' or lap-wing,' a play upon Kieft's name and character) ought to be packed off to Holland in the Peacock, with a letter of recommendation to Master Gerrit (the public executioner), and a pound flemish, so that he may give him a nobleman's death." Footnote: "In those days the noblement were beheaded and the commoners hung."

Although from the excerpt above, it is not clear to me which "Hendrick the tailor" was meant. Hopefully, it was clear from the complete record.

My dictionary shows lap-wing as kievit, which would be even closer to Kieft.

Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com And a reply e-mail: Subj: Re: The tailors vs Kieft (was Re: SNYER(S) to SNYDER?? ) Date: 03/16/2000 5:44:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: lschulze@bconnex.net (Lorine McGinnis Schulze) Reply-to: lschulze@bconnex.net To: Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com

Howard Swain <hswain@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

"Hendrick Kip was a man of strong character and fearless disposition, and
was fitly described by Stedman in his poem on "The Nine Men of New
Amsterdam" as 'Hendrick Kip of the haughty lip.'" (Does anyone know where
this poem has been printed?)

Howard,

I cannot tell you if this poem has been published, but Stedman shows up as a published author in the Library of Congress online catalogue. There one book attributed to him -- so hopefully the poem will be in it!

Brief Description:

                  Stedman, Edmund Clarence, 1833-1908.

                  Poets of America / by Edmund Clarence Stedman.

                  4th ed.

                  Boston : Houghton, Mifflin ; Cambridge : Riverside  Press, 1886.

                  xviii, 516 p. ; 21 cm.

For the online catalogue go here

http://catalog.loc.gov/

Lorine McGinnis Schulze lschulze@bconnex.net Howard

The NYPL online catalogue (CATYNIP) has 75 of Stedman's works. :-)

Some are classified in Rare Books & Mss.

I think you may find your poem there! Will you share it with the list if you do?

Lorine

"The Dutch Patrol", by Edmund Clarence Stedman: http://www.litscape.com/author/Edmund_Clarence_Stedman/The_Dutch_Pa...

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Hendrick Hendrickse Kip (1600-1680) came to New Amsterdam prior to 1643, and became one of the leading men in New Netherland. He was a bitter opponent of Director-General Kieft, owing to the con duct of the latter in ordering the Indian massacre at Corlears Hook and Pavonia. After Kieft's departure for Holland, Kip's rise was rapid. He was one of the Nine Men in 1647 and 1649, a Schepen in 1656, a Magistrate in 1660, and filled other offices.