John Abbe, Sr., of Salem

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John Abbe, born England, about 1613 (reputedly son of John, born about 1587, wife unknown), died in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, about 1690; married (1), about 1636, Mary Loring, daughter of William and Bridget (Sanders) Loring , born about 1615; died in Wenham, Essex, Massachusetts, 9 September 1672, and (2) Mary, widow of Richard Goldsmith, who was killed by lightning, 18 May 1674.

The birth place and parentage of John Abbe are not known, but current speculation suggests a connection with the Abbye family of Staverton, Northampton. He apparently came to New England in 1635 aboard the Bonaventure (Register of the names of all the passengers which passed from the Port of London for a whole year ending at Christmas 1635). In the records of Salem, his name appears first in January 1637 (Vol. I, p. 11): "John Abbie is received for inhabitant and is to have one acre lot for a house next beyond the Gunsmith's and three acres of planting ground where the Town hath appointed beyond Castle Hill." In 1638, in the division of the common marsh and meadow lands, the town of Salem granted John Abbe half an acre: at that time there were just three heads in his family (the size of the allocation related to the size of the family). In 1639, John received an additional grant of five acres "near to Mr. Trogmorton's hoghouse." In January 1643, John and several others each received ten-acre grants "to be laid out near to King's lot" near the Bass River, but the following month the town exchanged this ten-acre lot for ten acres at Enon, and subsequently granted the Bass River lot to Michael Sallows.

In 1642, Mr. Fiske organized a church at Enon; the following year the name of the settlement was changed to Wenham. On 24 August 1644, the new town granted John Abby "all that wasteground which lyeth between the end of the lott which he lives upon and the meadow which belongs to the town, leaving a poles bredth most convenient for a way. In January 1662, the town granted land to John Abbey, Sr. and Edward Waldron, to be divided equally between them. The following year, Abbey was chosen to assist the selectmen in making "the minister's rate" for the year. He served as constable of the town in 1669 and 1671. On 3 April 1675, John deeded ten acres of land to his son Samuel -- Thomas, John, and Mary Abbe witnessed the transaction.

John supported his son, Thomas, who lived with him and cared for him. In 1683, he dismissed Thomas on account of bad behavior and called upon his son John Jr. to take charge of his affairs. To seal this transaction, on 3 August 1683, John Sr. filed the following writ: Know all men by these presents that I, John Abbey (Senior) of Wenham in the County of Essex, being sensible of my own and my wife's inability to carry on my affaires so as to provide for our Comfortable Livelihood by reason of our age and weakness of body ... do make Choice of and request my son John Abbey as my feoffee in trust to take into his hands my house and all my lands in Wenham together with what right I have in that land which was sometime Richard Gooldsmith's, to occupy and improve for my and his mutual benefit so long as my wife and I or either of us shall live, and for his encouragement to manage my affaires as abovesaid and he provide comfortably for my own and my wife's maintenance I do hereby give and bequeath to him my aforesaid feofee all my houses & lands forever except what I do hereby give out of it to the rest of my children, viz. Samuel, Sarah, Marah, Rebeca, Obadia, and Thomas, and to each of them as follows: viz. to Samuel, I having already given him ... land, I give him one shilling more, and to all the rest of my children above mentioned, viz. Sarah, Marah, Rebeca, Obadia, and Thomas two Shillings apiece or to so many of them as shall survive at the decease of my self and wife: and in case God shall take away my son John abovesaid before the decease of my self and wife, if his heirs shall continue to manage and carry on my affaires as my abovesaid feoffee ought to do, then they shall have the houses and lands abovesaid as therein ordered, and in confirmation of what is above written I have hereunto set to my hand & seal. Signed sealed and delivered August the 3, 1683, in the presence of Thos. Fiske, Sr. [and] Martha Fiske. John Abbey Sr. did acknowledge this writing above written to be his act and deed August the 3d, 1683, before me, Samuel Appleton, Assistant.

Apparently taking his new responsibilities seriously, John Jr. built a new house for his father early on, as the old one was unfit to live in. In 1696, after the death of his father (1690) and step-mother, John Jr. sold the lands in Wenham to Nathaniel Waldron and removed to Windham, Connecticut, where he died on 11 December 1700. Shortly thereafter, Thomas, then of Enfield, Hartford County, Connecticut, laid claim to his father's estate, naming his father-in-law, Walter Fairfield of Wenham, his attorney. His actions included a suit for trespass against one Peter Legro of Wenham. The court allowed Legro to substitute his landlord, Nathaniel Waldron, as defendant in this case.

For some reason (possibly because John Jr. failed to probate the will his father signed in 1683), the court determined that John Sr. had died intestate and granted administration of his estate to Thomas (December 1702). Richard Hutton and Joseph Fowler, whom Thomas commissioned to appraise the estate, valued the property -- twenty three acres of upland and meadow, the housing, fences and other appurtenances in Wenham, together with John Sr.'s right in the Common -- at £92: "We also being informed that the said deceased in his lifetime did, to accommodate his son Obadiah according to his desire with a trade for his future benefit when the said Obadiah was eighteen years old, give to Richard Goldsmith three years service of his said son Obadiah and until he was one and twenty years old to learn him to be a shoemaker, and all the said time his said father did find his said son meat and drink and clothes washing and lodging which we do judge to be worth thirty pounds. The account was settled between Thomas Abbe and his father's Estate by the Children of the said deceased in our presence..."

The heirs -- Thomas, Richard Kimball for himself and his wife Rebecca, and Mary Kilham -- allowed £32 "for several things for which our said father ... was indebted to his son Thomas Abbe" before his death. The heirs of John Jr., Samuel, and Sarah were apparently not represented in these proceedings; nor was Obadiah, unless he had given his commission to Thomas. We have yet to discover how Nathaniel Waldron fared.

As to the surname of John Sr.'s first wife (Loring), it was supplied by Frederick Orr Woodruff, who said the name had been found in Enfield records by one who made searches for him there. See Ancestors of the Bingham Family of Utah.

Children of John ABBE and Mary LORING: John Abbe, born in Salem, about 1637; died in Windham, 11 Dec 1700. First described as yeoman of Wenham; in 1663, one of three appointed to oversee the town's common and resist encroachments on the timber; admitted as freeman by the court at Boston, 11 May 1670. John apparently resided on his father's estate until about 1696, when he sold it to Francis Wainright, and removed to Windham, where for £70 he bought home lot number 7 at Windham Center from Exercise Conant, with the right to 1,000 acres and a dwelling house (13 July 1696). Apparently, possession of the Wenham property later reverted to John, for he sold it again to Nathaniel Waldron, 19 October 1696, for £130. John was admitted as freeman of Windham on 9 December 1696. He and his wife Hannah were dismissed from the Wenham Church to Windham by letter dated 28 Oct 1700, and both were original members of the first church of Windham at its organization, 10 Dec 1700. John wrote his will that day, and died suddenly the following day (food for thought). John apparently married first a Goodale: Isaac Goodale, who was perhaps son of Isaac and Patience Goodale, called John Abbe his uncle. His second wife was Hannah, possibly widow of Richard Goldsmith of Wenham. Following John's death, she married Jonathan Jennings, Sr., of Windham (16 November 1703) and died 8 March 1724. The will of John Abbe mentioned thirty acres of land "adjoining to Goodman Binghams and Goodman Larrabees." By inventory taken 4 September 1701, John's estate was valued at £118 13s, with indebtedness of about £14. Children by his first wife: John (1665), John (1666), Thomas (1667), Joseph (1673), Obadiah (about 1675), Abigail (about 1677). Children by his second wife: Richard Abbe (1683), Mary (1684) John (1691), Hannah (1693), Lydia (1696), Sarah (1699).

Sarah Abbe, born in Salem, about 1639; died 1704; married a Kilham.

Mary Abbe, born in Salem, about 1641; died in Wenham, 2 May 1721; also married a Kilham and/or Alexander Maxie of Wenham.

Rebecca Abbe, born in Wenham, about 1647; died in Wenham, June 1704; married Richard Kimball, 13 May 1667.

Samuel Abbe married Mary Knowlton.

Obadiah Abbe, born in Wenham, about 1650; died in Enfield, 28 Oct 1732; married, as her third husband, Sarah Tibbals, daughter of Thomas Tibbals of Milford; apprenticed, at 18, to learn the shoemaker trade from Richard Goldsmith. One of the original proprietors of Enfield, 1682 (eighth lot from the south corner, east side), where he seems to have achieved some prominence, having served as constable, surveyor of highways, and assessor. Obadiah Abbe's holdings in Enfield are described in the Enfield records: Home lot of 12 acres; 23 acres in the South Field, eastern division; 7 acres upon Schantuck River, 5 acres of upland, 2 acres of meadow upon a small brook easterly from the "grate meadow"; 4 acres of meadow by grant of 5 March 1700; and on November 17, 171[ ], a farm lying west of Schantuck great meadow consisting of 168 acres. Obadiah apparently had no children.

Thomas Abbe, born in Wenham, about 1655; died in Enfield, 17 May 1728; married Sarah Fairfield, daughter of Walter and Sarah (Skipper) Fairfield, in Marblehead, Massachusetts, 16 December 1683. Wounded during King Phillip's war in the Great Swamp Fight. In May 1676, the court voted to repay the losses of divers persons who were "damnified" by the burning of Major Appleton's tent at Narragansett: to Thomas Abbey, £3.18.00, December 1675 and £5.02.00, 24 April 1676 [NEHGR, 28:441-442]. Thomas Abbey was among the eighteen "men wounded who are at Road Island, 6 January 1675" [NEHGR, 28:443]. He was an original proprietor of Enfield, 1683, with the eleventh lot, east side, north of the south corner as his home lot. He at once became one of the prominent men of the settlement and is mentioned frequently on the records of Enfield: selectman in 1686, 1689, 1706, 1707, 1709, 1710; fenceviewer repeatedly; and assessor in 1705. Thomas was sergeant in 1711 and lieutenant of the Enfield Trained Band in 1713. Children: Sarah (1684), Thomas (1686), Mary (1688), John (1692), Tabitha (1696, called Abigail in her father's will), Elizabeth. The will, made 12 December 1726, probated 30 August 1728, mentions wife Sarah; son Thomas, executor (to inherit the homestead and 57 acres); son John (to inherit land at Scantic Bridge); daughters Sarah Geer and Tabitha Warner (to have the cattle).

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(1) JOHN ABBE

Born in England about 1613; died in Salem, Mass., about 1689-90. The place of birth of John Abbe, the founder of the American Abbe and Abbey families, is unknown, but every indication points to one of the interior and central counties of England as the home of the ancestors of the emigrant. It is not improbable that he was connected with the Abbye family of Staverton, Northampton. The parish registers of Stoke Bruerne, Northampton, show that there were many marriages of Abbyes recorded there during the 16th and 17th centuries.

John Abbe, from the age as given approximately at his death, was born about 1613. The first mention which seems to be of this John Abbe is on a register of the names "of all ye passengers wch passed from ye Porte of London for a whole yeare endinge at Xmas 1635 - those underwritten are to be transported to Virginia imbarqued in ye Mercht bonaventure James Ricrofte Mr bound thither have taken ye oath of allegeance - Jo: Abby 22 yeares - " Although this statement says bound for Virginia, it is a well-known fact that many of the early ships destined for Virginia, landed many or all of their passengers at other ports, even in New England about that time. The above Jo: Abby does not appear in the records of Virginia, nor in the head Rights for lower Norfolk from 1637 to 1666. The abbreviation Jo: sometimes stood for Joseph, but there are proven instances where it was used for John.

The first reference to the name in the Salem records is on page 11, volume 1, in 1637 or, according to the old method of marking time, 2d of the 11th month, 1636.

"John Abbie is Recd. ffer Inhabitant & is to haue one acre lott for a house next beyond the Gunsmiths, and 3 acres of planting ground where the Towne hath appointed beyond Castle hill."

There has existed some confusion regarding the various freemen of the name Abbey and Alby. Benjamin Albye was admitted freeman, May 18, 1642, and John Albye in Salem, May 10, 1643. These were, without doubt, the two Albys, John and Benjamin, mentioned in the early records of Braintree about this time. Benjamin Alby removed to Mendon and had numerous descendants, Whose names occasionally appear in printed records as Abbey. John Abbey, Sen., of Redding, freeman in 1634, may have been an Alby.

On the 21st, 11th month, 1638, John Abby had a further grant of five acres, location not specified, but, as on the 15th, 2d month, 1639, this record occurs, "Granted unto John Abby 5 acres neere to Mr. Throgmortons Hoogehouse," it may be that the first was the grant and the second the location. Under date of the 25th, 10th month, 1637, it was agreed "the marsh and meadow lands that have formerly been laid in common to this town shall now be appropriated to the inhabitants of Salem, proportioned out to them according to the heads of families. To these that have the greates number an acre therof, and to these that have least not above half an acre, and to these that are between both three quarters of an acre, always provided and it is so agreed, that none shall sell away their proportions of meadow, more or less, nor lease them out to any above three years, unless they sell or lease out their houses with their meadow."

Under the above division a list of the inhabitatns was taken, and the land divided. Jo: Abby is named in 1638 as having three in his family, and receives half an acre.

On the 23d, 11th, 1642, ten acres are granted to John Abby together with several other ten-acre grants, all to be laid out near to Kings lot. This was on the Beverly side near Bass River, and on the 15th of the 12th month, 1642, it is voted "ordered that John Abby shall have 10 acres of land at Enon in exchange of 10 acres of land bounded out nere Basse River."

The lot near Bass River was afterward granted to Michael Sallows. The record of the grants to Abbey show that he was of the same standing in the community as the great majority of the early inhabitants. The grants were in a great measure made with an eye as to the ability of the grantee to develop the land so granted, small grants to the poorer and larger grants to the richer sort.

In 1642, Mr. Fiske organized a church at Enon and the following year the name Enon was changed to Wenham, while a permanent church organization was effected in 1644.

In 1644, under date of the 13th, 6th month, it was agreed that John Abby "shall have all that wastground which lyeth between ye end of ye lott which he lives upon and ye meadow which belongs to ye town, leaving a poles bredth most convenient for a way." (Wenham town records, Worcester.)

Under date of 1653 is a list of engagements with Goodman Haws about the mill, and "John Aby gives a day and a half of his labor toward its erection," and others contributed in like manner, some also giving the use of oxen.

Mr. Fiske left the town in 1655 followed by a number of the church, and in 1657 Mr. Newman was procured as pastor. Under date of November, 1657, in a total rate of 42,19 pounds, divided among twenty-four persons, of whom five paid a total of 14 pounds, John Abey is assessed 1,5, which was about the sum paid by eleven other, but two being less.

In 1659, twenty-seven pay a rate of 46,2, of whom sixteen pay 1 or a trifle over. Of these John Abey pays 1,5, as before, " in corne or cattle"

In 1660 he was assessed as Goodman Abey at eight shillings toward a new meeting house or repairing the old one. The new house was built in 1663.

Under date of 6th, 11th month, 1661, John Abbey, Sr., and Edward Waldron had a town grant of land to be equally divided between them. The use of the title Senior at this time helps to place the birth of the son John.

In 1663 Goodman Abey, Sr., and John Clarke are chosen to join with the selectmen to make the minister's rate for the present year.

In 1669 and in 1671 John Abbey appears as constable, and office of great local power and reponsibility.

April 3, 1675, John Abbe deeded 10 acres of land to his son Samuel; Thomas, John, and Mary Abbe, being witnesses. John Abbe, sen., was a witness to the will of Edward Walden of Salem, 4th month, 1679

In 1683, John Abbey, who had been supporting his son Thomas, who lived with him and cared for him, dismissed Thomas on account of his bad behavior and called his son John, Junior, to take charge of him and his affairs. The son, John, proceeded early to build a new house, as the old one was unfit to live in.

Know all men by these presents that I John Abbey (Senior) of Wenham in the County of Essex being sensible of my owne & my wives inability to carry on my affaires so as to prouid for our comfortable livelyhood by reason of our age & weakness of body attending us by reason thereof doe make choice of & request my son John Abbey as my ffeiofe in trust to take into his hands my house & all my lands in Wenham together with that right I have in that land which was sometime Richard Gooldsmiths, to ocquipie & improue for myn & his muttuall benifit so long as my wife & I or eyther of us shall live; & for his incouriagment to maniage my affaires as abovesaid & he provide comfortably for my owne & my wives maintenance I doe hereby give and bequeath to him my aforesaid ffeiofe all my houses & lands fforever except which I doe hereby give out of it to the rest of my childrin viz Samuell Sarah Marah Rebeca Obaida & Thomas & to each of them as followeth viz to Samuell I haveing alridy given his a Lell of land I give him one Shilling mor & to all the rest of my childrin above mentioned viz Sarah Marah Rebeca Obadia & Thomas two shillings a peice or to so many of them as shall sirviv at the deacease of my selfe & wife if his heires shall continue to maniage & carry on my affaires as my abovesaid ffeioffe ought to doe then they shall have the houses & lands abovesaid as therin ordvard & in confirmation of what is above written I have here unto set to my hand & seale signed seald & delivered August the 3, 1683

in the presence of John Abbey Sen. (seal) Thomas Ffiske his X mark Martha Ffiske

John Abbey Sen. ded acknowledg this writing above written to be his act & deed August ye 3d; 1683 before me Samuel Appeton Assistant.

On the outside of the above document is the inscription:

John Abbey's Disposale of his Estate 1683 Recorded in Ips in ye Registrar's office for ye probate of Will for sd County of Essex Dec. 1702 p mee Daniel Rogers Registrar.

Administration on the Estate of John Abbey Senjr of Wenham

John Appleton Esqr. Commissionated by his Excellency Joseph Dudley Capt. General & Governr in Cheif in & over Her Majesties Counsell of said province for the Probate of Wills and Granting Letters of Administration. Within the said County of Essex &c. To Thomas Abbey of Enfield in ye County of Hampshire son to John Abbey senjr of Wenham - Deceased Intestate - Greeting - Trusting in Yr care and fidelity I doe by these presents comitt unto you full power to administer all & singular the Goods, Charttells, Rights & Creditts of the said Deceased & well & faithfully dispose of ye same according to law which to him while he lived & att ye time of his death did appeartain & belong, to aske sue for demand levy receive & recover and to pay all debts in which the deceased stood bound so farr as his goods Chattells rights & Creditts can extend according to the value thereof, and to make a true & perfect inventory of all & singular the goods Chattells rights and creditts of the deceased and to exhibit the same into the registry office of ye sd county att or before the last day of Oath att or before ye twentieth day of december which will bee in ye year of our Lord God one thousand seven hundred & three - and I doe by these presents ordaine constitute and appoint you administrator of all & singular the good chattells rights & creditts of ye deceased aforesaid - In testimony whereof I have herunto sett my hand & caused the seals of said office to be affixed - Dated in Ipswich the 12th Day of December Anno. 1702 Annoq. R: Reginae Annae Angliae &C. Primo.

Examined - 11 John Appleton

Daniel Rogers Registrar

Recorded Book 307, Page 456. Essex Probate Office

Know all me by these presents, that we Thomas Abbey of Enfield in ye County of Hampshire as principle and Waltar Fairfeild Snj. & Thomas Edwards both of Wenham as sureties within His Majesties Province of the Massachusetts Bay in New England are holden and stand firmly bound and obliged unto John Aplleton Esquire Judge of the Probate of Wills and granting administration within the said County of Essex in the full sum of Two Hundred Pounds currant money in New England. To be paid unto the said John Appleton Esquire his successors in the said Office or Assignes. To the true payment whereof. We bind our selves, and each of us, our, and each of our heirs, executors and administrators, joyntly and severally for the whole and in the whole firmly by these presents sealed with our seals. Dated the Eleventh day of December Anno Domini. One thousand 701 Annoque Regni Reginae Annae primo.

The condition of this present obligation is such, that if the above-bounden Thomas Abbey administrator to all & singular the goods, chattells, rights & credits of his father John Abbey Senjr late of Wenham Deceased to make or cause to be made a true and perfect inventory of all and singular the goods, chattells, rights and credits of the said deceased, which have or shall come to the hands, possession or knowledge of him the said administrator or into the hands and possession of any other person or persons for him. And the same so made, do exhibit or cause to be exhibited into the registry of the court of Probate for the aforesaid County of Essex at or before the last day of February next ensuing. And the same Goods, chattells, rights and credits of the said deceased, at the time of Death, which at any time after shall come into the hands and possession of any other person or persons for him do well and truly administer according to Law. And further do make, or cause to be made a just and true accompt of his said administration upon oath, at or before the Twentieth day of December which will be in the year of our Lord, One thousand 703.

And all the rest & residue of the said Goods, chattells, rights & credits which shall be found remaining upon the said administrators accompt ( the same being first examined and allowed of by the Judge or Judges for the time being of Probate of Wills and granting administrations within the County of Essex aforesaid) shall deliver and pay unto such person or persons respectively as the said Judge or Judges by his or their decree or sentance pursuant to law shall limit and appoint. And if it shall hereafter appear, that any last Will and Testament was made by the said deceased; and the executor or executors therein named do exhibit the same into the Court of Probate for the said County of Essex making request to have it allowed and approved accordingly. If the said administrator within bounden being thereunto required do render and deliver the said Letters of Adminitration (Approbation of such Testament being first had and made ) unto the said Court. Then the before written obligation to be void and of none effect, or else to abide and remain in full force and virtue

Thomas TA Abbey (seal) Sealed and Delivered mark & seal in presence of Walter Fayerfield (seal) Francis Crompton Thomas O. Edward (seal) Daniel Rogers mark & seal

This inventory of the Estate of John Abee Senior formerly of Wenham deceased about thirten yere since intestate we whom names are her unto subscribed on this twenty-fourth of Febuary in the yere of our lord 17 did at the request of Thomas Abee one of the sons of the decesed and administrator of his fathers estat or by his order vallew and aprise the said decesed his house and land in Wenham on which to our certain knowing he lived for many yers and dyed seased of the same as his owne estat of inheritance as we ever understod we being his nere neighbors for many yers the sayd decesed his homsted being about twenty and three acres of upland and medow together with the housing and fences ther on the apertenances ther onto belonging together with his right in the comon all which we vallewed at ninety and two pounds. We also being informed that the sayd decesed in his life-time did to acomodate his son Obadiah acording to his desire with a trad for his futer benifett when the sayd Obadiah was eighten yers old give to Richard Goldsmith three yers sarvit of his said son Obadiah and untill he was one and twentey yers ould to learne him to be a shoemaker and all the sayd time his sayd father did find his sayd son meat and drink and clothes washing and lodging which we doe judg to be worth thirtey pounds.

The acount was settled betwen thomas Abee and his fathers estat by the children of the sayd decesed in our presants as witness our hands this 24 of the 12th month 1702/3

his Richard RH Hutton marke Joseph Fowler Aprisers

The estate debtor to his sonn thomas Abee for severall things for which our sayd father John Abee Senor was indebted to his son thomas Abee before the death of our sayd father John Abee Senor the acount whereof was settled and alowed by use underwritten which debt is thirtey and two pounds

as witness our hands this 24th Febuerary 1702/3 his Richard + Kimball for himself & Rebecc his wife mark her his Mary | Killam Thomas T Abbe mark marke May 18th 1703

Then ye above said Thomas Abbe made oath to this inventory before John Appleton

He and his wife Mary came to America sometime in the 1640's and settled in Massachusetts.

Was of Salem, Mass January 2nd, 1636. Settled in Wenham. Constable 1669, 71, 72.

Taken from "Abbe-Abbey Genealogy" by Cleveland Abbe and Josephine Nichols.

John Abbe, born in England about 1613; died in Salem, Mass., about1689-90. The place of birth of John Abbe, the founder of the Abbe and Abbey families, is unknown, but every indication points to oneof the interior and central counties of England as the home of the ancestors of the emigrant. It is not improbable that he was connected with the Abbye family of Staverton, Northampton. The parish registers of Stoke Bruerne, Northampton, show that there were many marriages of Abbyes recorded there during the 16th and 17th centuries.

A History of Staverton:

Staverton is a village situated in the South Hams. It is 3 miles from Totnes and 7 miles from Torbay. It lies on the banks of the beautiful river Dart nestled in a valley.

The name Staverton , or Stouretona, means "the village by the stony ford." The ford, an ancient crossing many centuries older than the bridge, was situated by Town Mills, and provided a route from the village to Dartington.

However old the real history of Staverton parish may be , written records go back to the time of king Athelstan (925-940), who gave extensive lands to the monastery of St. Mary and St. Peter in Exeter, so that the income from the lands could support the work of the church. Falling on hard times however the monastery sold the manors. In 1050 Leofric became the Bishop of Exeter and regained all of the lands. Which had been given by Athelstan, and Staverton and Sparkwell returned to the church’s keeping. Later, in 1088, the Doomsday Book records the manor of Staverton as being worth £7 and Sparkwell as 15/- (shillings) a year.

Over the centuries, boundaries have moved and manors split. By the 15th century, Sparkwell Manor consisted of Sparkwell, Beara and Blacker. Barkingdon and Kingston were separate manors. From Saxon times, the Wolston family was associated with the area, originally with Sparkwell and later with Blackler and Beara. Their name survives today in Wolston Green, a hamlet within the parish boundary.

Sparkwell and Kingston were later owned by the Barnhouse family, and passed via Agnes Barnhouse to her husband John Rowe. Barkington was owned by the Worths until the 17th century. The boundaries of the manors were not always as now, but where filed names were recorded, it is easy to trace the historical boundaries of ownership. Some are still referred to as they were a thousand years ago.

The manor of Staverton continued to provide income for the Chapter of Exeter. Changes to legal title were made in 1148 concerning the church at Staverton. The Chapter of Exeter was instructed to appoint an "upright man as Vicar and allow him sufficient maintenance."

Some hamlets became independent of the church and changed hands frequently. Tradition has it that Pridhamsleigh was lost as a gambling debt by the Gould family, forebears of Sabine Barring-Gould. However , the Church retained much of the land and this is reflected today with the Church Commissioners still owning substantial areas of the parish.

The River Dart forms one of the boundaries and appears to have caused some problems. For many years the riparian rights were leased by the Chapter in Exeter to Buckfast Abbey. The monks resented any use made of the river down-stream, lest it reduced their supply of salmon, and they would often resort to violence and intimidation of a most irreligious nature, which sometimes landed them in the Courts. The last such incident appears in the Court of the Star Chamber records, just before the Dissolution under Henry VIII. A mill, probably sited near the present bridge, was leased by the Abbot of Buckfast to one John Macy, and it appears that some of the monks had broken in and violently taken stock from the mill for no apparent reason.

Fact and legend are intertwined in the history of Staverton Church. It is said that in Saxon times, after St Paul de Leon landed at Penzance and built his church at St Pol, he sailed along the coast of Devon and Cornwall and then up the River Dart, until he reached the ford at Staverton. He felt that God had guided him to this place, and desired him to build a church. The site he chose was possibly near Wolston Green, and he gathered all the materials together ready to begin building. However, when he awoke the next morning the materials had disappeared. Patiently, he repeated his preparations but by the next morning the materials had again disappeared. When this happened for the third time, St Paul concluded that God was displeased with the site. He therefore chose the present location, which appears to have met with Divine approval, for a place of worship has remained there throughout the intervening ten centuries.

The church built by St Paul was the first of three churches on the site, and would have been a wattle, clay and wooden structure with a thatched roof. The second building was of stone, built in Norman style, and it was much smaller than the present one, the knave being only 16ft 12ft.

A fascinating anecdote is that the timbers from the roof of this Norman church have since been discovered as supporting timbers in the roof of a local farmhouse. It appears that the benefits of recycling are not after all, a discovery of the 20th Century!

It would seem however, that the parishioners did not look after their church too well, as in 1314 Bishop Stapeldon, on a visit to the parish noted several defects and ordered a new church to be built by the people of Staverton. The present building dates from that time, and tradition has it that the villages built such a large church to spite the censorious Bishop. The yew tree survived the rebuilding , and is now over a thousand years old.

A report dated around 1750 quotes the story that a family vault belonging to the Worths was opened in the order to drain it. An oak coffin was found, which must have been that of Simon Worth who died in 1669. When the workmen opened the coffin they found the body not only intact, but quite supple, as if buried only the day before. The body had not been embalmed and although the coffin was left open for several weeks the body did not decay. A surgeon opened the body and found all the organs intact. The vault used to fill with water in the winter, but dried out in the summer, and this coffin was held down with a stone.

In 1877, Staverton Church was "restore in true Victorian style. Sabine Barring Gould, who had a living near London at the time, was contacted as his ancestors were about to be entombed in concrete . He rushed down and removed their memorials to Lewtrenchard Church. The Gould family had lived at Pridhamsleigh (presumably until they lost it in the gambling debt), and Coombe, and were the founders of several Parish Charities. Their name survives today in Goulds, a house near Staverton Station.

The history of the bridges in the parish is not easy to trace and the dates when they were first built are not known. Their existence only comes to light when they were officially recorded for some reason. Before the 14th Century, people and packhorses had to cross the Dart at the ford. The first bridge in the parish was Austin’s bridge, originally 7’ 6’ it was widened in 1809. Dart bridge was built in 1356, and Staverton bridge appears to have been rebuilt after the previous wooden structure, was in danger of collapse in 1413.

The Church decided to finance the rebuilding by issuing Indulgences, an apparently common means of raising finance for such projects in medieval times. Indulgences were sold to people so that they could spend less time in Purgatory, the equivalent of paying a fine instead of going to prison. The morality of this method might be suspect, but at least we now benefit from the superstition of those who had done some wrong and were paying their way out.

The present fine stone bridge features on the Parish Council Chairman’s badge is believed to date from this time. Repairs and alterations have however, been carried out during the bridges long history.

Some colourful events appear to have taken place on the bridge over the years. In 1436, an enquiry resulted from a drunken brawl between a parish chaplain, Sir John Laa and John Gayne. They were returning home from dining out and they started to argue on the bridge. The former drew a knife in self defence and the latter fell on it and was killed. Normally, a priest who had killed a man would have lost his living, but the Bishops enquiry absolved Sir John of any guilt and he continued in office.

Twenty years later, other incidents took place involving John Murry, the Bailiff of Haytor Hundred, who should have been maintaining the peace, but instead appears to have behaved suspiciously like a highwayman, relieving travellers of horses, harnesses and baggage. It would have been an ideal place for waylaying and trapping victims.

The parish seems to have a long tradition of education, as early in the 19th Century, there were four small schools within its boundaries. The location of these is not known and it is likely that they were Dame Schools, the most common form of education prior to the 1870 Education Act. Reference is also made to teachers in the parish since the 17th Century.

Landscove School was built in 1855, and was originally designed for 50 children. It was enlarged in 1897. The school and school house was financed by Miss Champernowne, as was Landscove Church and vicarage.

Staverton School was built in 1875 at a cost of £900. It was designed to provide education for 70 children. During the five years from 1870, when education became compulsory, children were taught in the Court Room. The headmistress however, had to wait until 1878 for a house to be provided.

The earliest records of the slate quarries is 1338, when Penn slate was used by John Holland, a half brother of Richard II, for roofing Dartington Hall. However, they later fell into disuse. Their revival in the 19th Century had a major influence in the development of the parish. During this period , Penn slate was used for the roof of the Houses of Parliament. Sadly however, the only thing worth preserving from the quarries long history is the chimney on the road from Penn to Parkfield.

By 1845, when Penn Recca mine was opened and expanded over four hundred people lived over two miles from Staverton Church. It was therefore decided to build a second Church in the parish. The land chosen was near Thornecroft where the majority of the slate miners cottages were situated. At the time it was used for allotments and the field was called Landscore. This changed to Landscove when the church was dedicated in that name. There are therefore two ecclesiastical parishes within the civil parish of Staverton.

The land was given by the Dean and Chapter of Exeter, and the building was generously funded by Miss Champernowne a former owner of Dartington Hall. The cost of the building work is reputed to have been £3000. The architect, John Loughbrough Pearson also later designed Truro Cathedral. The vicarage, now Hill House, was also funded by Miss Champernowne, and date from around this time.

The slate quarries, which finally closed in 1908, also had an influence on the development on the roads of the parish. In the 19th Century, the road system was very different from now, and the main road from Ashburton to Totnes ran through Five Lanes , on through High Beara to Bumpston Cross, passing about six hundred yards from the adit at Lower Coombe making it easier for the transport of the slate to either town.

The South Devon Railway Company opened Totnes Station in 1847 and proper services appear to have begun in 1848. The line to Ashburton was opened on 1st May 1872.

The original Act of Parliament of 1845 for the Plymouth, Devonport and Exeter Railway, to join the Bristol and Exeter railway at Exeter, granted permission for a line passing through Buckfastleigh and Ashburton. (All new railway lines have to be passed by an Act of Parliament.) In the same year, a proposal was made for the Ashburton, Newton and South Devon Junction railway to run from Newton to Ashburton. (Newton Abbot was just "Newton" at this time.)

Also in 1845, a public meeting held in the Totnes Guildhall agreed that Totnes should be connected to Buckfastleigh and Ashburton. This did not become an Act until July 1848. The line was to be designed by Brunel and would have been broad gauge. On completion, it was to be operated by the South Devon Railway.

By the end of all these negotiations however, the country was in recession and all plans were shelved. But by 1862, it was decided that the area needed the railway to boost trade and the Buckfastleigh, Totnes and South Devon Railway Company Act was passed in 1864. In 1865 another Act extended the line to Ashburton. It was of course, broad gauge, converted to standard gauge in 1892.

The principal traffic was always freight, with passengers a poor second, mainly workman and children attending school in Totnes. Apart from the usual pick-up goods, the main traffic into Staverton was agricultural feeds, timber for the joinery, and over 20 wagons of coal a week. Outgoing traffic was cider from Whiteways at Stretchford and from Hill’s at Barkingdon and furniture from Staverton joinery.

Interestingly, until the end of the Century, the woollen mills of Buckfastleigh provided the railway with more traffic than Newton Abbot.

The branch was closed to all traffic on 10th September 1962, the last passenger train having run in 1958. The line had fallen victim, like so many others, to Dr. Beeching’s cuts. The Great Western Society restored the line and it was re-opened in 1968.

Like many rural settlements, the population of the parish has been in steady decline since the mid-19th Century. Population statistics are scanty prior to 1801, when the first Census was carried out. However, a report of around 1750 said that as many hogsheads of cider were made each year as there were men and women in the parish, and this was about 2,000 hogsheads.

The 1801 Census shows a population of 1053, 473 males and 580 females. The highest recorded population in the 19th Century was in 1851 with the total of 1152, 562 males and 590 females. This was when production in the slate quarries was at its peak, but a sharp fall occurred by 1861, with only 949 people in the parish. The Census report notes that this was due to the decline in employment in the slate quarries. The1881 report also comments that agriculture remained the main source of employment in the parish despite the relatively large numbers employed in the quarries.

From 1861 onwards, the population of Staverton has continued to fall slowly, the lowest figure being in 1971, with 551 people living in the parish. By 1981, this had increased to 627.

The fact that Staverton village alone at one time could support three public houses, bears testimony to a once larger population. In 1850, the Landlord of the Ring O’ Bells Inn, whose name survives in Ring O’ Bells hill was the aptly named Robert Beer! The other two pubs at the time were the Church House Inn (now the Sea Trout Inn) and the Union Inn. The exact location of the latter is not known but was possibly in the Sherwell Close area. In addition, there was also the Live and Let Live at Wolston Green which still exists today.

This has been only a brief glimpse at some of the more notable events and developments which have taken place over the centuries. It is hoped however, that it helps to put the parish into it's historical context and links us with the men and women who played their part in shaping the parish which we know today.

John Abbe, from the age given approximately at his death, was born about 1613. The first mention which seems to be of this John Abbe is on a register of the names all of all ye passengers which passed from ye Porte of London for a whole yeare endinge at Xmas 1635 - Those underwritten areto be transported to Virginia imbarqued in ye Mercht bonaventure James Ricrofte Mr bound thither have taken ye oath of allegeance - Jo: Abby yeares 22 Although this statement says bound for Virginia, it is awell-known fact that many of the early ships destined for Virginia landedmany or all of their passengers at other ports, even in New England, andrecords of the name John Abbe begin in New England about that time. Theabove Jo: Abby does not appear in the records of Virginia, nor in theHead Rights for lower Norfolk from 1637 to 1666. The abbreviation Jo:sometimes stood for Joseph, but there are proven instances where it wasused for John.

The first reference to the name in the Salem records is on page 11,volume 1, in 1637, or, according to the old method of marking time, 2d of the 11th month, 1636. John Abbie is Recd. ffer Inhabitant & is to haue one acre lott for a house next beyond the Gunsmiths, and 3 acres of planting ground where the Towne hath appointed beyond Castle Hill.

There has existed some confusion regarding the various freemen of the name Abbey and Alby. Benjamin Albye was admitted freeman, May 18, 1642, and John Albye in Salem, May 10, 1643. These were, without doubt, the two Albys, John and Benjamin, mentioned in the early records of Braintree about this time. Benjamin Alby removed to Mendon and had numerous descendants, whose names occasionally appear in printed records as Abbey. John Abbey, sen., of Redding, freeman in 1634, may have been an Alby

On the 21st, 11th month, 1638, John Abby had a further grant of five acres, location not specified, but, as on the 15th, 2nd month, 1639, this record occurs, Granted unto John Abby 5 acres neere to Mr Throgmortons hoggehouse, it may be that the first was the grant and the second the location. Under date of the 25th, 10th month, 1637, it was agreed the marsh and meadow lands that have formerly been laid in common to this town shall be appropriated to the inhabitants of Salem, proportioned out to them according to the heads of families. To these that have the greatest number an acre thereof, and to these that have least not above half an acre, and to these that are between both three quarters of an acre, always provided and it is agreed, that none shall sell away their proportions of meadow, more or less, nor lease them out to any above three years, unless they sell or lease out their houses with their meadow.

Under the above division a list of the inhabitants was taken, and the land divided. Jo. Abby is named in 1638 as having three in his family,and he receives half an acre.

On the 23d, 11th, 1642, ten acres are granted to John Abby together with several other ten-acre grants, all to be laid out near to Kings lot.This was on the Beverly side near Bass River, and on the 15th of the 12th month, 1642, it is voted á Oordered that John Abby shall have 10 acres of land at Enon in exchange of 10 acres of land bounded out near Basse River. The lot near Bass River was afterward granted to Michael Sallows.

The record of the grants to Abbey show that he was of the same standing in the community as the great majority of the early inhabitants. The grants were in a great measure made with an eye as to the ability of the grantee to develop the land so granted, small grants to the poorer and the larger grants to the richer sort. In 1642, Mr. Fiske organized a church at Enon and the following year the name Enon was changed toWenham, while a permanent church organization was effected in 1644.

In 1644, under the date of the 13th, 6th month, it was agreed that John Abby shall have all that wastground which lyeth between ye end of ye lott which he lives upon and ye meadow which blelongs to ye town, leaving apoles bredth most convenient for a way. (Wenham town records, Worcester.)

Under the date of 1653 is a list of engagements with Goodman Haws aboutthe mill, and John Aby gives a day and a half of his labor toward itserection, and others contributed in a like manner, some also giving theuse of oxen.

Mr. Fiske left the town in 1655 followed by a number of the church, andin 1657 Mr Newman was procured as pastor. Under date of November, 1657,in a total rate of £42, 19, divided among twenty- four persons, of whomfive paid a total of £14, John Abey is assessed £1, 5, which was aboutthe sum paid by eleven others, but two being less. In 1659, twenty-sevenpay a rate of £46, 2, of whom sixteen pay £1 or a trifle over. Of theseJohn Abey pays £1, 5, as before, in corne or cattle.

In 1660 he was assessed as Goodman Abey at eight shillings toward a new meeting house or repairing the old one. The new house was built in 1663.

Under date of 6th, 11 month, 1661, John Abbey, Sr., and Edward Waldron had a town grant of land to be equally divided between them. The use of the title Senior at this time helps to place the birth of the son John.

In 1663 Goodman Abey, Sr., and John Clarke are chosen to join with the selectmen to make the ministers rate for the present year.

In 1669 and in 1671 John Abbey appears as constable, an office of great local power and responsibility.

April 3, 1675, John Abbe deeded 10 acres of land to his son Samuel,Thomas, John and Mary Abbe, being witnesses. John Abbe, sen., was awitness to the will of Edwd Walden of Salem, 4th month, 1679.

In 1683, John Abbey, who had been supporting his son Thomas, who lived with him and cared for him, dismissed Thomas on account of his bad behavior and called his son John, junior, to take charge of him and his affairs. The son, John, proceeded early to build a new house, as the old one was unfit to live in.

Know all men By these prsents that I John Abbey (Scnjr.) of Wenhamin the County of Essex being sensible of my owne & my wives inability to Carry on my affaires So as to provide for our Comfortable Livelyhood by reason of our age & weakness of Body Attending vs by reason thereof Doe make Choice of & Request my son John Abbey as my ffeiofe in trust to take into his hands my house & all my Lands in Wenham together wth wt right I have in that Land which was sometime Richard Gooldsmiths. to ocquipie & improue for myn & his muttuall Benifit So long as my wife & I or eyther of us shall live: & for his incouriagment to maniage my affaires as abovesaid & he provide Comfortably for my owne & my wives maintenance I doe hereby Give and Bequeath to him my afforesaid ffeiofe all my houses & Lands fforeuer Except wt I doe hereby Give out of it to the rest of my Childrin viz Samuell Sarah Marah Rebeca Obadia & Thomas & to each of them as followeth viz to Samuell I haveing alridy Given him a Lell of Land I give him one Shilling more & to all the rest of my Childrin above mentioned viz Sarah Marah Rebeca Obadia & Thomas two Shillings a peice or to so many of them as shall sirviv at the deacease of my selfe & wife: & in Case God shall take awaye my Son John abovesaid before the Decease of my selfe & wife if his Heires Shall Continue to maniage & Carry on my affaires as my abovesaid ffeioffe ought to doe then they Shall have the houses & Lands abovesaid as therin ordvard & in Confirmation of what is above written I have here vnto set to my hand & Seale Signed Seald &Deliverd August the 3 1683 in the presence of

Thos ffiske Senjr: John Abbey Senjr

martha ffiske his marke

John Abbey Senjr ded acknowledg this writing above written to be his act & deed August ye 3d: 1683 before

me

Samuel Appeton

Assistant.

On the outside of the above document is the inscription:

John Abbey's Disposale of his Estate 1653 Record In Ips in ye Regroffice for ye probate of Will for sd County

of Essex Decr 1702 p mee Danl Rogers Regr

Administration on the Estate of John Abbey senjr of Wenham. JohnAppleton Esqr. Comissionated by his Excellency Joseph Dudley Capt.Generll and Governr in Cheif in & over her Majess Province of yeMassachtt Bay in New England, with the advice and Consent of her MajestesCounsell of said province for the Probate of Wills and Granting Lettersof adminstro. Within the said County of Essex &c. To Thomas Abbey ofEnfield in ye County of Hampshire son to John Abbey senjr ofWenham-Deceased

Intestate-Greeting-Trusting in yr Care and ffidelity I doe by Thesepresents Comitt unto you full power to administer all & singular theGoods, Chattells, Rights & Creditts of the said Deceased & well &ffaithfully dispose of ye same according to law which to him while heLived & att ye time of his Death did appeartain & belong, to aske sue fordemand Levy Receive & Recover and to pay all Debts in which the Deceasdstood bound so farr as his Goods Chattells Rights & Creditts Can extendaccording to the value thereof, and to make a true &

prfect Inventory of all & singular the Goods Chattells Rights andCreditts of the Deceasd and to Exhibit the

same into the Registry office of ye sd County att or before the LastDay of ffebruary next Ensueing, and to

render a plain & true accott of ye said adminjo upon Oath att orbefore ye Twentieth Day of Decembr which

Will bee in ye year of or Lord God One Thousand Seven hundd &Three-and I doe by These prsents Ordaine

Constitute and appoint you administratoer of all & singular theGoods Chattells Rights & Creditts of ye

Deceasd aforesd.-In Testimony Whereof I have herunto Sett my hand &caused the Seale of said office to be

affixed-Dated in Ipswich the 12th Day of Decembr anno. 1702. Annoq.R: Reginae Annae Angliae &c primo.

Examd-11 John Appleton.

Daniel Rogers Regr.

Recorded Book 307, Page 456. Essex Probate Office.

Know All men by these presents, That We Thomas Abbey of Enfield inye County of hampshire as principle and Waltar ffairfeild Senj & ThomasEdwards both of Wenham as sureties within His Majesties Province of theMassachusetts Bay in New England are holden and stand firmly bound andobliged unto John Appleton Esqr Judge of the Probate of Wills andgranting Administration within the said County of Essex in the full sumof Two hundred Pounds Currant Money in New England. To be paid unto thesaid John Appleton Esquire his

Successors in the said Office or Assignes. To the true payment whereof.We bind our selves, and each of us, our, and each of our heirs, Executorsand Administrators, joyntly and severally for the whole and in the wholefirmly by these presents Sealed with our Seals. Dated the Eleventh day ofDecembr Anno Domini. One thousand 702 Annoque Regni Reginae Annae primo.

The condition of this present Obligation is such, That if theabove-bounden Thomas Abbey administrator to all & singular the Goods,Chattells, Rights & Credits of his ffather John Abbey Senjr Late ofWenham Deceased to make or cause to be made a true and perfect Inventoryof all and singular the Goods, Chattells, Rights and Credits of the saidDeceased, which have or shall come to the hands and possession orknowledge of him the said administrator or into the hands and possessionof any other person or persons for him. And the same so made, do exhibitor cause to be exhibited into the Registry of the Court of Probate forthe aforesaid County of Essex at or before the Last day of ffebruary nextensuing. And the same Goods, Chattells, Rights and Credits of the saidDeceased, at the time of Death, which at any time after shall come intothe hands and possession of any other person or persons for him do welland truly administer according to Law. And further do make, or cause tobe made a just and true Accompt of his said Administration upon Oath, ator before the Twentieth day of Decembr which will be in the year of ourLord, One thousand 703. And all the rest & residue of the said Goods,Chattells, Rights & Credits which shall be found remaining upon the saidAdministrators Accompt (the same being first examined and allowed of bythe Judge or Judges for the time being of Probate of Wills and grantingAdministrations within the County of Essex aforesaid) shall deliver andpay unto such person or persons respectively as the said Judge or Judgesby his or their Decree or Sentence pursuant to Law shall limit andappoint. And if it shall hereafter appear, That any last Will andTestament was made by the said Deceased: And the Executor or Executorstherein named do exhibit the same into the Court of Probate for the saidCounty of Essex making request to have it allowed and approvedaccordingly. If the said administrator within bounden being thereuntorequired do render and deliver the said Letters of Administration(Approbation of such Testament being first had and made) unto the saidCourt. Then the before written obligation to be void and of none effect,or else to abide and remain in full force and virtue.

Thomas TA Abbey (mark &

seal)

Walter fayerfield (seal)

Thomas O Edward (seal)

Sealed and Delivered

in presence of

francis Crumpton

Daniel Rogers.

This Inventory of the Estate of John Abee Senor formerly of Wenhamdecesed about thirten yere since Intestate we whos names are her vntosubscribed on this twentey-fovrth of febuary in the yere of our lord 17did at the Request of thomas Abee one of the sons of the decesed andAdministrator of his fathers estat or by his order vallew and aprise thesaid decesed his house and land in Wenham on which to our certain knowleghe lived for many yers and dyed seased of the same as his owne Estat ofInheritance as we ever understod we being his nere neighbors for manyyers the sayd decesed his homsted being about twenty and three acers ofvpland and medow together with the housing and fences ther on theapertenances ther onto belonging together with his Right in the Comon allwhich we vallewed at ninety and two pounds £92-s00-d00. We also beingInformed that the sayd decesed in his lifetime did to acomodate his sonObadiah acording to his desire with a trad for his futer benifett whenthe sayd Obadiah was eighten yers old give to Richard Goldsmith threeyers sarvit of his said son Obadiah and vntill he was one and twenteyyers ould to learne him to be a shoemaker and all the sayd time his saydfather did find his sayd son meat and drink and Clothes washing andLodging which we doe Judg to be worth thirtey pounds. the acount wassettled betwen thomas Abee and his fathers Estat by the Children of thesayd decesed in our presents as witness our hands this 24 of the 12thmonth 1703/2

Richard RH Hutton ( his

mark)

Joseph ffowler Aprisers.

the estate debtor to his sonn thomas Abee for severall things for whichour said father John Abee Senor was Indebted to his son thomas Abeebefore the death of our sayd father John abee Senor the acount whereofwas settled and alowed by vse vnderwritten which debt is thirtey and twopounds £32--s00-d00.

as wittnes our hands this 24th febuerary 1702/3

Richard kimball for himself & Rebecc his wife (his mark)

mary killam (her mark)

Thomas Abbe (his mark)

May 18th 1703

Then ye above sd Thomas Abbe made oath to this Inventory

Before John Appleton

John ABBE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 was born 1613 in , , England. He died 1689 in Wenham, Essex, Massachusetts. John married 8 Mary on 1636 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

Other marriages:

, Mary

Mary 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 1615 in , , England. She died 9 Sep 1672 in Wenham, Essex, Massachusetts. Mary married 5 John ABBE on 1636 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

They had the following children:

  M i John ABBE was born 1637 and died 11 Dec 1700. 

  F ii Sarah ABBE 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 1639 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts. 

  F iii Mary ABBE was born 1641 and died 2 May 1721. 

  F iv Rebecca ABBE was born 1644 and died Jun 1704. 

  M v Samuel ABBE was born 1648 and died Mar 1698. 

  M vi Obadiah ABBE was born 1651 and died Oct 1732. 

  M vii Lieutenant Thomas ABBE was born 1654 and died 17 May 1728. 

First wife: Mary Loring d. 1674. All children are hers. John Abbe made out disposition of his estate on Aug. 3, 1683. If a recorded date of death can be ascertained, please post a supporting document.

Second wife: Mary Goldsmith (relict of Richard Goldsmith). Alive 1683. No children with John Abbe.

Source:

Abbe-Abbey genealogy, in memory of John Abbe and his descendants

https://archive.org/stream/abbeabbeygenealo00abbe#page/n19/mode/2up

It is not improbable he was connected with the Abbye family of Staverton, Northhamptonshire"; the parish records at Bruerne show there were many Abbyes married there in the 16th & 17th centuries.

It is surmised that John Abbe is the same as a passenger listed aboard the Bonaventure, and his name appears in New England shortly thereafter. He is recorded at Salem in 1637 (new calendar) as having a land for house in Salem on page 11, volume 1 of the Salem records, beyond "the Gunsmiths" and "beyond Castel Hill". In 1638, he is listed as having 3 in his family in a land transaction document. Over the intervening years he received several more land grants on the Beverly side near Bass River. He seems to have prospered and in 1663 he is referred to as Goodman Abey, Sr. placing the birth of son John.. The same year he and John Clarke are joined with the selectmen to make the minister's rate for the present year.

In 1669 an 1671 he serves as constable.

In 1675, John deeded 10 acres of land to his sons Samuel; Thomas and John, and daughter Mary.being witness. He was witness to the will of Edward Walden in 1679.

In 1683, he dismisses his son Thomas, who he had been supporting and who was caring for him, (on account of bad behavior by Thomas) and called son John, Jr. (the third John) to take care of him and his affairs. John proceeded to build a new house as the old one was unfit to live in.

In his will, children Samuell, Thomas, Sarah, Marah, Rebeca, Obadiah are mentioned. He leaves his estate to son John (he mentions here that some of this land "was of Richard Goldsmith). He also refers to his wife.

Witnesses were Thomas Fiske, Sr. and his wife Martha Fiske.

Disposal document dated August 3, 1683.

Birth 15 Oct 1613 Attleborough, Breckland Borough, Norfolk, England Death 1689 (aged 75–76) Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts, USA Burial Unknown Memorial ID 38758303 · View Source From the book published in 1916 "Abbe -Abbey Genealogy In Memory of John Abbe and his Descendants" by Cleveland Abbe and Joseph Genung Nichols.

"John Abbe married 1 Mary _____ She was born in England about 1615-20, and died in Wenham, Mass., September 6, 1672. "Mary, the wife of John Abbey, senr. dyed the 9 Sept 1672"; Wenham records. She was doubtless the mother of all of his children. Her name is givens Mary Loring, by Frederick Orr Woodruff, who says that the name was found on Enfield records by one who made researches for him there.

John Abbe married 2 November 25, 1674, Mrs Mary Goldsmith, widow of Richard Goldsmith, who was killed by lightening, May 18, 1674. She was living in 1683. "John Abbie and Marah Goldsmith maryed 25 of Novemb, 1674"; Wenham records.

John Abbe, b. probably in Salem, 1636 or 7 ; m. twice. Samuel Abbe; m. Mary Knowlton. Sarah Abbe. Marah Abbe; m. Killam. Rebecca Abbe; m. Richard Kimball. Obadiah Abbe; m. Sarah Tibbals. Thomas Abbe; m. Sarah Fairfield

The info above was kindly sent to me by "Grandma" #47644196

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"John Abbe married
1 Mary _____ She was born in England about 1615-20, and died in Wenham, Mass., September 6, 1672. "Mary, the wife of John Abbey, senr. dyed the 9 Sept 1672"; Wenham records. She was doubtless the mother of all of his children. Her name is givens Mary Loring, by Frederick Orr Woodruff, who says that the name was found on Enfield records by one who made researches for him there.

John Abbe married 2 November 25, 1674, Mrs Mary Goldsmith, widow of Richard Goldsmith, who was killed by lightening, May 18, 1674. She was living in 1683. "John Abbie and Marah Goldsmith maryed 25 of Novemb, 1674"; Wenham records.

John Abbe, b. probably in Salem, 1636 or 7 ; m. twice. Samuel Abbe; m. Mary Knowlton. Sarah Abbe. Marah Abbe; m. Killam. Rebecca Abbe; m. Richard Kimball. Obadiah Abbe; m. Sarah Tibbals. Thomas Abbe; m. Sarah Fairfield

John immigrated from London, England to the US on the sail ship Bonaventure (see attached) on January 2, 1634 "aged 22 years."

Disputed Origins John Abbe and Isabel Unknown have been detached as parents. In the future, if accurate historical records are found, they may be reattached. Notes have been left on both profiles, Abbe-13 and Unknown-154004. Current speculation suggests a connection with the Abbye family of Staverton, Northampton; thus far this speculation is not born out in the genealogical record. According to a merged profile, he was born on 15 Oct 1613 in Norwich, Norfolk, England. No source has been found for this date. The following Find A Grave site is speculation and also not born out in the scholarly genealogical record.The Find A Grave site has him born Oct. 15, 1613 at Attleborough, England. Confusion regarding people of the name Abbe/Abbey and Alby. Benjamin Albye was admitted freeman, May 18, 1642, and John Albye in Salem, May 10, 1643; two Albys, John and Benjamin, mentioned in the early records of Braintree. Benjamin Alby removed to Mendon and had several descendants, whose names have appeared in printed records as Abbey. John Abbey, sen., of Redding, freeman in 1634, may have been an Alby. Biography Orthography: Abbee, Abbei, Abbey, Abbie, Abby, Abbye.

Birth The Abbe-Abbey Genealogy says that John Abbe was born in England about 1613. His ancestry is unknown but this book speculates that he was born in one of the interior and central counties of England. It is probable that he was related to the Abbye family of Staverton, Northampton. The parish records at Stoke Bruerne, Northampton, reveal many marriages of Abbyes recorded there during the 16th and 17th centuries. [1]

Migration and Land He migrated sometime before November 11th, 1636 as at that time he was granted land as an inhabitant of Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony.[2]

He seemingly came to New England in 1635 aboard the "Bonaventure" for his name is recorded on this list as Jo: Abby, aged 22, quoted:

"Passinger wchPassed from ye Port of London. Theis vnder written are to be transported to Virginea imbarqued in ye Mercht bonaventure James Ricrofte Mr bound thither have taken yeoath of Allegeance."[3]"Abbe Genealogy" postulates that "it is a well-known act that many of the early ships destined for Virginia landed many or all of their passengers at other ports, even in New England, and records of the name of John Abbe begin in New England about that time."[1] An additional 5 acres of land was granted by the town of Salem on November 21, 1638.[4]

At Enon (renamed Wenham, Essex, Massachusetts in 1643) he was granted land in 1642/3[5] when previously he had sold his land near Basse River in Salem to Michael Sallows.[1]In 1644 it was agreed that John Abby "shall have all that wastground which lyeth between ye end of ye lott which he lives upon and ye meadow which belongs to iye town, leaving a poles bredth most convenient for a way."[1]In 1661 Wenham granted land to him and Edward Waldron.[1]He continued to farmed and resided in Wenham, Massachusetts the rest of his life.[5]After reviewing the land grants, the authors of "Abbe-Abbey Genealogy conclude that "he was of the same standing in the community as the great majority of the early inhabitants" since smaller grants were given to those who were poorer and less able to develop the land.[1]

Church and Community [1]

The Reverend Mr. Fiske organized a church at Enon in 1642; John Abbe and his wife Mary were charter members in 1644.[5] A mill was under construction in 1653 when "John Aby" donated "a day and a half of his labor toward its erection."[1] A new pastor came to Wenham in 1657 and John Abey was asssessed L1 5s along with twenty-three other persons who paid various amounts. "Goodman Abey" was assessed eight shillings in 1660. Either a new meeting house was to be built or the old one repaired. He and John Clarke were picked to, along with the selectmen, set the minister's rate for the year 1663. In both 1669 and 1671 he was constable. Thomas, John and Mary Abbe were witnesses to their father granting 10 acres of land to their brother, Samuel on April 3, 1675. His name is found in the "waste book" records of Ralph Fogg; the permanent record has been lost. Fogg also kept the records of the Quarter Court for Salem and there also used a "waste book" and later copied the information into the permanent record.[6] His Family John's 1st wife was Mary (_____), her surname is unknown.[5][7][8] She was born in England [1]and died in Wenham on September 9, 1672.[5] According to the Abbe-Abbey Genealogy, Frederick Orr Woodruff identified her name as Mary Loring and says that the "name was found on Enfield [presumably England] records by one who made researches for him there."[1] However, the author's must not have placed much credence in the name Loring since they identified her as Mary _____.

Children of John and Mary John Abbe was born before 1661 in Wenham, Massachusetts.(his father was named John Abbe Sr. in a land purchase agreement of 1661).[1]In 1696 he moved to Windham, Connecticut. He had 2 wives, name of 1st wife is unknown but possible it was the daughter of Isaac Goodale since Isaac Goodale called John Abbe his uncle.[1] His 2nd wife was Hannah, possibly Goldsmith. Abbe Abbey Genealogy says that she may have been the wife of Richard Goldsmith, widow of Richard Goldsmith of Wenham.[1] Children: John, John, Thomas, Richard, Lydia. He died soon after December 10, 1700 at Windham. Samuel Abbe was born (date?) and made freeman on October 3, 1680.[9]On October 12, 1672 he married Mary Knowlton in Wenham. Moved to Salem in 1682, back to Wenham in 1697; died in 1698. Mary married (2nd) to Abraham Mitchell. Children: Mary, Samuel, Thomas, Eleazer, Ebenezer, Mercy, Sarah, Hepzibah, Abigail, John, Benjamin, Jonathan. Sarah Abbe Marah Abbe Rebecca Abbe who married Richard Kimball on March 13, 1667. Obadiah Abbe was born (date?). He moved to Enfield, Massachusetts (now Connecticut) around 1682. The name of his 1st wife is unknown. He married (2nd) Sarah (_____) Warriner, widow of Joseph Warriner. According to Savage, he died in 1752, no children. Thomas Abbe was born (date?) He married [Fairfield-4|Sarah Fairfield]], daughter of Walter Fairfield of Wenham on December 17, 1683. He moved to Enfield where he died in 1728. Children: Sarah, Thomas, Mary, John, Abigail, Tabitha. After his first wife died, John married as his 2nd wife Mrs. Mary/Marah (_____) Goldsmith, on November 25, 1674 at Wenham.[10]The Wenham records say, "John Abbie and Marah Goldsmith maryed 25 of Novemb, 1674." She was the widow of Richard Goldsmith who was struck by lightning and killed on May 18, 1674.[1] She was living in 1683 when he disposed of his property.[citation needed]

Thomas lived with and had been supported by his father, in exchange Thomas cared for him as he aged. However in 1683 Thomas, who had been exhibiting bad behavior, was dismissed by his father and John Abbe Jr. took charge of his father's affairs. John Jr. build a new house "as the old one was unfit to live in."[1]

To seal this transaction, on 3 August 1683, John Sr. filed the following writ (the spelling has benn modernized):[1] "Know all men by these presents that I, John Abbey (Senr.) of Wenham in the County of Essex, being sensible of my own and my wife's inability to carry on my affairs so as to provide for our Comfortable Livelihood by reason of our age and weakness of body ... do make Choice of and request my son John Abbey as my feoffee in trust to take into his hands my house & all my lands in Wenham together with what right I have in that land which was sometime Richard Gooldsmith's, to occupy and improve for my and his mutual benefit so long as my wife and I or either of us shall live, and for his encouragement to manage my affairs as abovesaid and he provide comfortably for my own and my wife's maintenance I do hereby give and bequeath to him my aforesaid feoffee all my houses & lands forever except what I do hereby give out of it to the rest of my children, viz. Samuel, Sarah, Marah, Rebeca, Obadia, and Thomas, and to each of them as follows: viz. to Samuel, I having already given him ... land, I give him one shilling more, and to all the rest of my children above mentioned, viz. Sarah, Marah, Rebeca, Obadia, and Thomas two Shillings apiece or to so many of them as shall survive at the decease of my self and wife: and in case God shall take away my son John abovesaid before the decease of my self and wife, if his heirs shall continue to manage and carry on my affairs as my abovesaid feoffee ought to do, then they shall have the houses and lands abovesaid as therein ordered, and in confirmation of what is above written I have hereunto set to my hand & seal. Signed sealed and delivered August the 3, 1683, in the presence of Thos. Fiske, Sr. [and] Martha Fiske. "John Abbey Sr. did acknowledge this writing above written to be his act and deed August the 3d, 1683, before me Samuel Appleton, Assistant." Death and Burial He gave his estate to his children in 1683 and died without a will about 1689 at Wenham;[5]or Salem, Massachusetts Bay.[1]

Estate/Affidavits In 1696, after the death of his father and step-mother, John Jr. sold the lands in Wenham to Nathaniel Waldron and removed to Windham, Connecticut, where he died on 11 December 1700. At that point, John Senior's son Thomas, then of Enfield, Connecticut, laid claim to his father's estate, naming his father-in-law, Walter Fairfield of Wenham, his attorney. For some reason (possibly because John Jr. failed to probate the will his father signed in 1683), the court determined that John Sr. had died intestate and granted administration of his estate to Thomas (December 1702). The estate, valued including the property, was valued at £92. Thomas finally settled the estate.

"This Inventory of the Estate of John Abe Senor formerly of Wenham deceased about thirteen yere since Intestate we who names are her unto subscribed on this twenty fourth of febuary… 1702/3 did at the Request of Thomas Abee one of the sons of the decesed and Administrator of his fathers estat… apprise the said deceased his house and land in Wenham on which… he lived for many yers… as we ever understood we being his nere neighbors for many yers… his homsted being about twenty and three acers of upland and medow together with the housing and fences… with his Right in the Comon all which we vallewed at ninety and two pounds… We also being Informed that the sayd deceased in his lifetime did to accommodate his son Obadiah according to his desire with a trade for his futer benifett when the sayd Obadiah was eighteen yers old give to Richard Goldsmith three yers sarvit of his said son Obadiah and until he was one and twenty yers ould to learne him to be a shoemaker and all the sayd time his sayd father did find his sayd son meat and drink and Clothes washing and Lodging which we doe Judg to be worth thirty pounds…. His Richard RH Hutton Marke Joseph fflowler Aprisers

The estate debtor to his sonn Thomas Abee for severall things for which our said father John Abee Senor was Indebted to his son Thomas Abee before his death… the acount whereof was settled and allowed…which debt is thirty and two pounds… this 24th febuerary 1702/3

Richard Kimball for himself & Rebeca his wife His X Mark Thomas T Abbe his T marke Mary Killam Her I Mark"[11]

On the outside of the above document is the inscription: John Abbey's Disposale of his Estate 1653 Record In Ips in ye Regroffice for ye probate of Will for sd County of Essex Decr 1702 p mee Danl Rogers Regr Administration on the Estate of John Abbey senjr of Wenham. JohnAppleton Esqr. Comissionated by his Excellency Joseph Dudley Capt.Generll and Governr in Cheif in & over her Majess Province of yeMassachtt Bay in New England, with the advice and Consent of her MajestesCounsell of said province for the Probate of Wills and Granting Lettersof adminstro. Within the said County of Essex &c. To Thomas Abbey ofEnfield in ye County of Hampshire son to John Abbey senjr ofWenham-Deceased Intestate-Greeting-Trusting in yr Care and ffidelity I doe by Thesepresents Comitt unto you full power to administer all & singular theGoods, Chattells, Rights & Creditts of the said Deceased & well &ffaithfully dispose of ye same according to law which to him while heLived & att ye time of his Death did appeartain & belong, to aske sue fordemand Levy Receive & Recover andto pay all Debts in whichthe Deceasdstood bound so farr as his Goods Chattells Rights & Creditts Can extendaccording to the value thereof, and to make a true & prfect Inventory of all & singular the Goods Chattells Rights andCreditts of the Deceasd and to Exhibit the same into the Registry office of ye sd County att or before the LastDay of ffebruary next Ensueing, and to render a plain & true accott of ye said adminjo upon Oath att orbefore ye Twentieth Day of Decembr which Will bee in ye year of or Lord God One Thousand Seven hundd &Three-and I doe by These prsents Ordaine Constitute and appoint you administratoer of all & singular theGoods Chattells Rights & Creditts of ye Deceasd aforesd.-In Testimony Whereof I have herunto Sett my hand &caused the Seale of said office to be affixed-Dated in Ipswich the 12th Day of Decembr anno. 1702. Annoq.R: Reginae Annae Angliae &c primo. Examd-11 John Appleton. Daniel Rogers Regr. Recorded Book 307, Page 456. Essex Probate Office. Know All men by these presents, That We Thomas Abbey of Enfield inye County of hampshire as principle and Waltar ffairfeild Senj & ThomasEdwards both of Wenham as sureties within His Majesties Province of theMassachusetts Bay in New England are holden and stand firmly bound andobliged unto John Appleton Esqr Judge of the Probate of Wills andgranting Administration within the said County of Essex in the full sumof Two hundred Pounds Currant Money in New England. To be paid unto thesaid John Appleton Esquire his Successors in the said Office or Assignes. To the true payment whereof.We bind our selves, and each of us, our, and each of our heirs, Executorsand Administrators, joyntly and severally for the whole and in the wholefirmly by these presents Sealed with our Seals. Dated the Eleventh day ofDecembr Anno Domini. One thousand 702 Annoque Regni Reginae Annae primo. The condition of this present Obligation is such, That if theabove-bounden Thomas Abbey administrator to all & singular the Goods,Chattells, Rights & Credits of his ffather John Abbey Senjr Late ofWenham Deceased to make or cause to be made a true and perfect Inventoryof all and singular the Goods, Chattells, Rights and Credits of the saidDeceased, which have or shall cometo the hands and possession orknowledge of him the said administrator or into the hands and possessionof any other person or persons for him. And the same so made, do exhibitor cause to beexhibited into the Registry of the Court of Probate forthe aforesaid County of Essex at or before the Last day of ffebruary nextensuing. And the same Goods, Chattells, Rights and Creditsofthe saidDeceased, at the time of Death, which at any time after shall come intothe hands and possession of any other person or persons for him do welland truly administer according to Law.And further do make, or cause tobe made a just and true Accompt of his said Administration upon Oath, ator before the Twentieth day of Decembr which will be in the year of ourLord, One thousand 703. And all the rest & residue of the said Goods,Chattells, Rights& Credits which shall be found remaining upon the saidAdministrators Accompt (the same being first examined andallowed of bythe Judge or Judges for the time being of Probate of Wills and grantingAdministrations within the County of Essex aforesaid) shall deliver andpay unto such person or persons respectively as the said Judge or Judgesby his or their Decree or Sentence pursuant to Law shall limit andappoint. And if it shall hereafter appear, That any last Will andTestament was made bythe said Deceased: And the Executor or Executorstherein named do exhibit the same into the Court of Probate for the saidCounty of Essex making request to have it allowed and approvedaccordingly. If the said administrator within bounden being thereuntorequired do render and deliver the said Letters of Administration(Approbation of such Testament being first had and made) unto the saidCourt. Then the before written obligation to be void and of none effect,or else to abide and remain in full force and virtue. Thomas TA Abbey (mark & seal) Walter fayerfield (seal) Thomas O Edward (seal) Sealed and Delivered in presence of francis Crumpton Daniel Rogers. This Inventory of the Estate of John Abee Senor formerly of Wenhamdecesed about thirten yere since Intestate we whos names are her vntosubscribed on this twentey-fovrth of febuary in the yere of our lord 17did at the Request of thomas Abee one of the sons of the decesed andAdministrator of his fathers estat or by his order vallew and aprise thesaid decesed his house and land in Wenham on which to our certain knowleghe lived for many yers and dyed seased of the same as his owne Estat ofInheritance as we ever understod we being his nere neighbors for manyyersthe sayd decesed his homsted being about twenty and three acers ofvpland and medow together with the housing and fences ther on theapertenances ther onto belonging together with his Rightin the Comon allwhich we vallewed at ninety and two pounds £92-s00-d00. We also beingInformed that the sayd decesed in his lifetime did to acomodate his sonObadiah acording to his desire with a trad for his futer benifett whenthe sayd Obadiah was eighten yers old give to Richard Goldsmith threeyers sarvit of his said son Obadiah and vntill he was one and twenteyyers ould to learne him to be a shoemaker and all the sayd time his saydfather did find his sayd son meat and drink and Clothes washing andLodging which we doe Judg to be worth thirtey pounds. the acount wassettled betwen thomas Abee and his fathers Estat by the Children of thesayd decesed in our presents as witness our hands this 24 of the 12thmonth 1703/2 Richard RH Hutton ( his mark) Joseph ffowler Aprisers. the estate debtor to his sonn thomas Abee for severall things for whichour said father John Abee Senor was Indebted to his son thomas Abeebefore the death of our sayd father John abee Senor the acountwhereofwas settled and alowed by vse vnderwritten which debt is thirtey and twopounds £32--s00-d00. as wittnes our hands this 24th febuerary 1702/3 Richard kimball for himself & Rebecc his wife (his mark) mary killam (her mark) Thomas Abbe (his mark) May 18th 1703 Then ye above sd Thomas Abbe made oath to this Inventory Before John Appleton

Research Notes Abbe-Abbey Genealogy says that the 2nd wife of John Abbe, (who was the immigrant) was Mrs. Mary Goldsmith, widow of Richard Goldsmith; married on November 25, 1674. Richard Goldsmith had been killed by lightning on May 18, 1674... this may be accurate, or she may have been the Marah Goldsmith who married the son of the immigrant. See John Abbe-19. Abbe-Abbey Genealogy also says on p. 7 that the 2nd wife of John Abbe Jr, (Abbe-90) may have been Hannah Goldsmith, widow of Richard Goldsmith of Wenham. Attleborough is a market town and civil parish between Norwich and Thetford in Norfolk, England. A record exists for a John Abbe born at Norwich, Norfolk, England in 1611, christened 11 Aug 1611, which may be him however it is an ODM record so may not be accurate.[12]