Ludovic Grant, Indian Trader

Biography

Basing his residence on the 1715 prison register from Chester (image attached) which lists Ludovic's parish as Fyvie, a 1688 birth or baptismal record from Fyvie, Scotland suggests that Ludovic Grant may be the son of man named Alexander Grant. [1].

Jacobites in Prison in Lancashire, Winter 1715/1716 (See media tab for full size readable image)

The first certain record for Ludovic shows that he was on the losing side at the Battle of Preston in 1715, was imprisoned at Chester, and then transported in the ship Susannah to Charleston, South Carolina, arriving May 17, 1716. [2] Though his occupation is listed as "gent" in prison records, most likely Ludovic was a common soldier, not a noble, as records show that high- ranking prisoners were tried in London, less important tried locally, and the least important sent away.[3] [4]

After several years as an indentured servant, Ludovic moved west and became one of the earliest traders with the Cherokee. He was present when Sir Alexander Cuming (who claimed to be an Envoy of King George of England) came to the Cherokee Nation in 1730. After Cuming made a speech at Keowee, Grant wrote, "This strange speech, which I and the other Traders heard him make did not give some of them...a very favourable impression of him...." Grant wrote in 1757, "It is about 30 years since I came into the Cherokee Nation." When Cuming arrived Grant was living at "great Telliguo." [5]

He fathered at least one child, a daughter (name unknown but often listed as Mary ) with an unknown Cherokee woman of the Long Hair clan (often listed as Elizabeth/Betty Eughioote Coody or Tassell, which is probably incorrect) and as a result is the progenitor of many present-day Cherokee. [6]

His extensive correspondence provides valuable insight into the Cherokee of that time and is widely available. After 1740 his letters came from a Cherokee town called "Tomatley." For an example, see Grant "Historical Relation of Facts delivered by Ludovick Grant, Indian Trader, to His Excellency, the Governor of South Carolina." [7] The South Carolina archives contain several bills of sale from Ludovic Grant to Indian trader John Amory. [8]

Ludovic Grant probably died in Charleston, S.C. in 1757 and is believed to be buried at St. Philip's Church Cemetery.

Sources

1. ↑ "Church of Scotland: Old Parish Registers - Births and Baptisms" database, National Records of Scotland, ScotlandsPeople (https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/: accessed 2 March 2021), Ludovick Grant, son of Alexander Grant, 19 August 1688, Fyvie; citing Parish Number 197/, Reference Number: 10 59.
2. ↑ Dobson, David. Directory of Scots Banished to the American Plantations, 1650-1775. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984,p.66
3. ↑ Jacobites in Prison in Lancashire, Winter 1715-16. Transcription and images of registers at Rootsweb.
4. ↑ National Library of Scotland, description accompanying engraving "Jacobite Prisoners Being Taken to London."
5. ↑ "Historical Relation of Facts delivered by Ludovick Grant, Indian Trader, to His Excellency, the Governor of South Carolina.” Grant] The South Carolina Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Vol. 10, No. 1 (Jan. 1909), pp. 54-68
6. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History of the Cherokee Indians. Oklahoma Yesterday Publications edition, Tulsa, OK. 1979. p. 305
7. ↑ The South Carolina Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Vol. 10, No. 1 (Jan. 1909), pp. 54-68
8. ↑ South Carolina Department of Archives and History. [1] Amory, John, Assignment Of Bill Of Sale To Joseph Wragg And Richard Lambton, Merchants Of Charles Town, For One Stallion, Ten Geldings, Nine Mares And One Colt Named With Their Brands In A Bill Of Sale From Ludowick Grant To John Amory Dated 12 April 1741. (2 Pages) Date: 6/3/1741; Grant, Ludowick, Of Charles Town, Indian Trader, To John Amory Bill Of Sale For Six Horses. (2 Pages) Date: 5/7/1743; Grant, Ludowick, Of Charles Town, Indian Trader, To John Amory Bill Of Sale For Six Horses. (2 Pages) Date: 5/7/1743

See also :

• Cuming, Alexander “Journal of Sir Alexander Cuming” Reprint in Williams’ Early Travels in the Tennessee Country, 1580-1800 Johnson City, Tennessee, Watauga Press, 1928
• Ancestry,com. Scotland Select Births and Baptisms, 1654-1950 [database on line], Provo, UT Ancestry.com Operations
• Rogers, Mary E. Ludovic Grant: Trader to the Cherokees, Goingsnake Messenger, 1986-87, Vol. 3 #2, Vol. 3, #3, Vol. 4, #4. Digitized at FamilySearch, Vol. 3 no 2 and others. Articles include information on Jacobite Rebellion
• Ridge, Betty, Many Cherokees Trace to Scotish Rebel Cherokees-trace-to-scotch-rebel/article_ab523df6-84a7-5907-8e66-1d8800ffcf0f.html, Tahlequah Daily Press, September 22, 2011.
• Bell, George Morrison. Genealogy of Old and New Cherokee Indian Families. Bartlesville, Oklahoma. 1972.
• Woodward, Grace Steele.. The Cherokees. University of Oklahoma Press. Norman, OK, 1963).

Source: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Grant-1108
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• Bell, George Morrison. Genealogy of Old and New Cherokee Indian Families. Bartlesville, Oklahoma. 1972.
• Woodward, Grace Steele.. The Cherokees. University of Oklahoma Press. Norman, OK, 1963).
• Ancestral File(TM) Notes of Dolores Franklin Publication: compiler, ""

'Research Notes:'

• There is no evidence that the Cherokee woman Ludovic married was named Elizabeth Eughioote Tassel
• Ludovic Grant’s wife was given the Christian name Elizabeth and she had no surname. The surnames “Tassel”, “Coody” and so on given to her seem to be nothing more than the inventions of modern genealogists. A Cherokee name of Eughioote was suggested for her by western descendants but without proof. A confusion with the wife of John Rogers (d.1848) by some genealogists has only added to the confusion. From Starrs genealogy he married Elizabeth Coody, daughter of Arthur Coody and the daughter of Tassel, or Kahyun Techea, which remains unproven.
• The John Grant of Charleston is of unknown relation to Ludovic.

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(Curator Note: Discussion extracted from a discussion on Geni titled “Disambiguating Susannahs (Emory/Fields/Grant/etc)”, this section authored by Kathryn (Parks) Forbes)

“There is NO contemporaneous record of any of the first three generations of Grants. All died in the 18th century. Several members of the fourth generation are recorded in missionary records, but there are no references to their parents. Most of the fourth generation died before 1850. Emmet Starr’s tree is the first attempt to organize this family and Starr made one major error, including Joseph Martin instead of his brother John as father of Susannah Emory’s children. Starr was getting most of his information from members of the fifth generation. Most trees that deviate from Starr are late 20th century inventions, often created to provide non-Cherokee people with a Cherokee connection. None of the first three Grant generations, or John and Sarah Amory and their children had a middle name.

FACT: Ludovic Grant went to the Cherokee Nation about 1726-1727. He was one of the most prolific correspondents regarding the Cherokee between about 1729 and his death c. 1757, but he never mentioned a wife or children.

According to Emmet Starr, Grant married a Cherokee woman, name unknown, clan uncertain – Starr listed both the Long Hair and the Wolf Clan. Also according to Starr, Grant had one daughter, name unknown. This woman is commonly referred to as “Mary Grant” in Internet trees.

FACT: The Amory family emigrated to America arriving in Georgia in January, 1738 with three children and two servants. Two sons are named, William and John. John’s land grant lists him as a yeoman of Boston, in Lincolnshire. Parish records which may be for this family show a marriage of a John Amory and Sarah Wilson in 1726. Baptisms list four children with parents John and Sarah Amory: John, 1727, Sarah, 1730, William, 1731, and James, 1732 (died 1737).

The Amorys arrived in Georgia in January, 1738, but by November, 1738 they had moved from Georgia to South Carolina [COULTER, ELLIS MERTON, AND ALBERT B. SAYE, editors A List of the Early Settlers of Georgia. Athens, GA: The University of Georgia Press, 1949. 2nd ed., 1967. p. 62] and soon engaged in the Indian trade. Colonial records identify John Amory as an ‘Indian trader” and demonstrate that he and Ludovic Grant were involved in business deals. [www.archivesindex.sc.gov/ search “Amory, John.”] No evidence that the "John Amory" who died in 1740 was the son of John and Sarah (although he might be). After John Sr’s death in 1746 his wife continued in the business, subsequently marrying two other traders.

Some researcher’s claim that son John was actually named “John Robert” and used the name “Robert.” Others claim that he was a soldier who was killed in 1740. There is no supporting evidence for this or that John Amory Sr. fathered children with any Cherokee women.

According to Emmet Starr, son William married Ludovic Grant’s daughter and they were the parents of three daughters. William was likely approximately the same age as Grant’s daughter. Their children were likely born between 1748-1752. There are NO records from this time period which include this family (or any other Cherokee families, for that matter). There are no dates for any of the three sisters, but all started having children in the mid-1760’s. It is widely assumed that the Cherokee man called “Will Emory” was another son of William Emory, mother unknown but Cherokee. No evidence that Mary Grant was his mother. Will’s Town (in Alabama) is NOT named after him.

Susannah is believed to have had children by three white men, John Stuart, Richard Fields, and John Martin. Her first child was born about 1767, her last about 1788.
The story that John Stuart and Susannah Emory had a child “shortly after his arrival at Fort Loudoun” cannot be true since Susannah could not have been older than 10 or 11. Stuart was Indian agent until 1779 so he had plenty of time to father the man known as “Bushyhead,” but of all her children this one is least certain. An 1829 description of Bushyhead says he was a man about 50 years old, a non-English-speaking fullblood, clearly not possible if Susannah and Stuart were his parents. This is a mystery that cannot be solved.

According to Starr, Susannah’s children by Richard Fields were sons John, Richard, George, Thomas, and Turtle and daughters Lucy and Susannah.

Susannah’s children by John Martin were Nannie, John, and Rachel. These three are documented in correspondence from the 1800’s. [Warren, Mary B. & Weeks, Eve, ed. Whites Among the Cherokees. Heritage Papers, Athens GA 1987, Letter from Benjamin Cleveland to Ga. Gov. Gilmer, p. 93]

Elizabeth also had children by two or three white men, Robert Due, John Rogers, and possibly Ezekiel Buffington. Her children were born between about 1767 and 1781. Daughter Jennie Due had children by her step-father, John Rogers, after her mother’s death. Elizabeth’s second daughter was known as Mary Buffington, but Starr attached her as a daughter of Robert Due. Rogers’ children were Charles, Aky, John, James, and Nannie. There were multiple John Rogers in the Cherokee Nation and they cannot be clearly identified/separated.

Mary had children by Rim (Ephraim) Fawling, Ezekiel Buffington, and John Martin. Her children were born between about 1765 and 1785. Her Fawling children were John and William, her one Martin child, Samuel, and by Buffington Elizabeth, Susanna, Anne, Ellis, Mary, and Thomas.

Responding specifically to previous posts:
"Susannah Catherine Emory 1727-1769 Daughter of Ludovic Grant, Indian Agent to Cherokee for SC and “Elizabeth Eughioote Tassel”; Wife of Robert Emory (Hembree). Currently, we have her as the Mother of William Wau-Hat-Chie Emory and Susannah Ani'gila'h Fields (Emory)" [See below].

NO record that either “Susannah Catherine” or “Robert Emory” ever existed.

"Mary Emory 1729-1766 #1's sister Mary, sometimes called into Mary Susannah; Daughter of Ludovic Grant, Indian Agent to Cherokee for SC and “Elizabeth Eughioote Tassel” Wife of William Emory, Indian Trader
Currently, we have her as Wife of William Emory, Indian Trader and the mother of Mary Emory; William Wah Ta O Ga Emory, Jr.; Elizabeth Emory; Susannah Rebecca Emory [see below]; Drewry/Drury Calhoun Hembree; and Abraham Hembree (Emory, Emery)"

NO record of her given name. Most often referred to as “Mary.” Children by William Emory are Susannah, Elizabeth and Mary. Probably NOT the mother of Will Emory. No evidence to connect her to Drewry or Abraham Hembree.

"Susannah Ani'gila'h Fields 1747-1844, should be a daughter to #1 (Susannah Grant and Robert Emory/Hembree). Currently, I don't have any spouse or children for her."

Susannah Emory/Stuart/Fields/Martin had a daughter named Susannah Fields b. abt. 1775 who married George Brewer and Thomas Foreman. The dates make no sense. 1747 is likely the birth year of Susannah Emory. Daughter Susannah was still alive in 1851. James HIcks believes that some of the Fields children Starr listed for Susannah, including daughter Susannah, were children of Richard Fields by a different mother.

"Susannah Foreman daughter of #4 above. 1770s-1851. Daughter of Capt. Richard Fields, Indian Trader and Susannah Rebecca Emory
We have her as Wife of George Brewer; Thomas "Tasgalodigisgi" Foreman and Major John Walker, Sr"

Susannah Fields was not married to any of the three John Walkers.”

Source: https://www.geni.com/discussions/204018''
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