Lydia Pittman

Biography

Lydia Pittman (unknown) was born circa 1639 in Virginia Colony.

Lydia married Samuel Judkins, Virginia Immigrant circa 1655 in Surry, Surry County, Virginia, United States. Together they had three sons:

1. Robert Judkins;
2. Samuel Judkins, of Surry County;
3. Charles Judkins.

Lydia married Capt. Thomas Pitman, of Surry County on September 10, 1672.

She died before March 14, 1678 in Surry County, Virginia Colony.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gray-1643

Lydia "Lidia" Pittman formerly Gray aka Gray, Judkins, Pittman Born before 1640 in James City County, VA

Wife of Samuel Judkins — married 1658 (to 1672) in Surry County, Virginia Wife of Thomas (Pittman) Pitman I — married 1672 in Surry County, VA

DESCENDANTS Mother of Samuel Judkins and Robert Judkins Sr Died before 4 Mar 1678 in Surry County, VAmap

Biography There is no evidence that Lydia's marriage to Capt. Thomas Pitman produced any children. Thomas had several children by his 1st wife Frances, and after her death married Martha Gwaltney (also see Mary Gweltna), and married Lydia after Mary's death in 1672.[1]

Lydia Grey/Gray was most likely born after 1640 (interpolation). She was the daughter of William Gray (1622-1714, Surry County, VA), who married her mother Mary? Margaret? after 1640. They had 4 children, Lydia, Gilbert (1640-1710), John (1650-1708) and Thomas (1652-1717).

Lydia's father William was the son of Thomas Gray (1593-1658). Thomas and his wife "Margaret" are mentioned in Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/25 as having two children, "Jone, a daughter aged 6 yeares," and "William, a sonn aged 3." (I put quotes around the name "Margaret" because Thomas' wife is also noted as "Avis," "Anis," or "Annis" in other censuses, which could indicate either a census mistake or a different mother).[2]

Lydia is also mentioned elsewhere as the daughter of William Gray and the wife of Samuel Judkins.' Based on examination of the tithables in Surry County, Samuel Judkins probably died after 13 Feb 1671. His LWT, for which Lydia was appointed executor, was probated after 7 May 1671.[3]

He and Lydia had 3 sons, all of whom are mentioned in his will:[4]

Samuel, listed as tithable 1674, which means he was born before 1659, probably 1657/58. He was appointed constable 5 May 1675[5]; his will was probated 18 May 1705. Robert, listed as tithable for the first time in 1677, which places his birth around 1660-1661.[6] His will was probated 19 May 1693, at Surry County, Virginia.[7] Charles, a minor when his father died. All three sons were listed as eligible for infantry militia duty in 1687.[8]

Lydia married Thomas Pittman-1252 shortly after her late husband's will was probated on 10 September 1672.[9]

Lydia's death can be fixed with relative certainty as before 4 March 1678, on which date Thomas appeared in court to record the property which he conveyed to his step-son Charles at the bequest of his wife,[10]

In July 1674, the court ordered the transfer of Lydia's youngest son Charles' portion of his father's estate from Thomas Pittman to his oldest brother Samuel.[11] Evidently the surety for the estate of Charles was transferred to Edward Pettway, Samuel's new father-in-law two months later in 1674.[12]

Biography from combined record: While many trees have Lydia as the daughter of William Gray and Mary Elizabeth Jarrett, dates do not work to have this relationship. I am removing them as parents.

Daughter of Thomas and Margaret (Anis) Gray per research done. According to "Historical Southern Families," Vol. XVII (available for viewing at VA State library in Richmond), Thomas Gray, Sr, ancient planter of Surry County, VA was married four times: first to Anis or Avis Valentine, children Joan Gray (b.1618) and William Gray (b. 1621 and died as a young man/older teen); second to Margaret ____ (no children listed - maybe this is where Lydia comes in?); third to Rebecca _____, children Thomas Gray (b. 1625), Rebecca Gray (b. 1628), and Francis Gray (b. 1630); and fourth, to unknown wife who mothered William Gray (YES - a different one, b. 1648), John Gray (b. 1651), and Thomas Gray (YES - also a different one, b. 1652). There are many records indicating this at the State Library.

When Samuel died, his two year-old son Charles was left without a father. Lydia remarried before she died in 1677/8 and lived in the Lawnes Creek parish of Surry County. Her death left Charles an orphan. Her second husband, Capt. Thomas Pittman, Sr., was given custody of the young boy, on Mar 14, 1678, at the request of his deceased wife.

Sources ↑ Gerald Gene Pitman-822's research in Surry County VA in 1981. ↑ Boddie, Southside Virginia Families, vol. 2, pp. 159-161. ↑ On May 7, 1672, at Surry County, Virginia, Court Order Book 1671-1691, page 4, Lydia Judkins was granted a probate of the will of her husband Samuel Judkins: "Probat granted Lidia Judkins Upon ye. will of her deed, husband Sam: Judkins P:ved by ye. oath of John Hunicutt. The Cort being informed that Jarratt Greenewalt is sick whoe was the other testimony to P:ve Sam: Judkins will itt is ordrd. that Capt. Spensor Examine him & take his oath & returne itt to the Clarke to record." ↑ Grant, p. 2, 4. ↑ Court Order Book 1671-1691, p. 93, as transcribed in Grant ↑ Grant, pg. 265. ↑ Death & Will Book 4/343. ↑ Surry County, Virginia, Court Order Book, pgs. 597-599. ↑ Grant, p. 3. ↑ Grant, p. 4. ↑ Court Order Book, Surry County, Virginia, 1671-1691, pg. 70. ↑ Court Order Book, Surry County, Virginia, 1671-1691, pg. 77. Boddie, John Bennett. Southside Virginia Families. 2 vols. Redwood City, 1954. Boddie, John Bennett. Virginia Historical Genealogy. Baltimore, 1965, pp. 310-311. Grant, Robert N. 1672 Samuel Judkins of Surry County, VA, His Wife Lydia (Gray) (Judkins) Pittman, and All His Descendants. Menlo Park, 2000. Surry County, Virginia, Court Order Book 1671-1691. Research conducted in Surry County, VA by Gerald Gene Pitman-824 in 1981. See also Thomas Pittman-1252. Boddie, John Bennett. Colonial Surry, 1966. pp. 136-7. Davis, Eliza T. Wills and Administrations of Surry Co, Va., 1671-1750, Geneal. Publ. Co., Baltimore MD, 1980, p. 84. Holtzsclaw, B.C. Judkins of Surry, in Boddie, John Bennett, Southside Virginia Families, v.2, pp. 287 ff. Descendants of Thomas Pitman (1614 – about 1686) of Surry County, Virginia", web document, http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaschsm/PitmanT.rtf http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=69719989 Virginia Genealogical Society, pp-309-311 WikiTree profile Gray-1643 created through the import of FISCUS Family Tree.ged on Jun 6, 2011 by Liisa Small. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Liisa and others.

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Lydia (Gray) Judkins/Pitman died by Mar. 14, 1678.

Daughter of Thomas and Rebecca (MNU) Gray, Sr.

Married 1st., ...

Wife of Samuel Judkins, Sr.

Married 2nd., ...

Wife of Thomas Pitman, Jr. ~ married September 10, 1672, Surry Co., GA

Lydia

• Birth: c 1633 Virginia / after 1640
• Death: before Mar 14 1678 Surry, Virginia
• Parents are not yet identified. Maiden name seen as Gray without supporting evidence.
• Spouses: Samuel Judkins, Captain Thomas Pittman

Samuel (I) and Lydia Judkins' children were:

• 1. Samuel Judkins, II (m. Elizabeth Petway)
• 2. Robert Judkins, I (m. Elizabeth Taylor, m. 2nd., James Stanton, I)
• 3. Charles Judkins (m. Jean or Jane MNU)

Notes

Will of Samuel Judkins 1672 names wife Lydia, no apparent marriage record or maiden name. Transcript at https://archive.org/details/1672samueljudkin00gran/page/n25

Lydia submitted her husband’s will for probate in May, made Thomas Pittman sign a prenup and married him about Sept. 10, 1672. Lydia was dead by March, 1678

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gray-1643

There is no evidence that Lydia's marriage to Capt. Thomas Pitman produced any children. Thomas had several children by his 1st wife Frances, and after her death married Martha Gwaltney (also see Mary Gweltna), and married Lydia after Mary's death in 1672.

Lydia is also mentioned elsewhere as the daughter of William Gray and the wife of Samuel Judkins. Based on examination of the tithables in Surry County, Samuel Judkins probably died after 13 Feb 1671. His LWT, for which Lydia was appointed executor, was probated after 7 May 1671.[3]

He and Lydia had 3 sons, all of whom are mentioned in his will:[4]

1. Samuel, listed as tithable 1674, which means he was born before 1659, probably 1657/58. He was appointed constable 5 May 1675[5]; his will was probated 18 May 1705.
2. Robert, listed as tithable for the first time in 1677, which places his birth around 1660-1661.[6] His will was probated 19 May 1693, at Surry County, Virginia.
3. Charles, a minor when his father died.

All three sons were listed as eligible for infantry militia duty in 1687.

Lydia married Thomas Pittman shortly after her late husband's will was probated on 10 September 1672.

Origins

Seen as daughter of Thomas Gray, Ancient Planter and also as daughter of his son Capt. William Gray, of James City

However:

Dorman in Adventurers of Purse and Person lists the following children born between 1618-1650 for ancient planter Thomas Gray who had at least 4 wives:

• Jone/Jane
• William - died young
• Thomas
• Rebecca
• Francis
• Another William
• John

No Lydia

Thomas married his first wife, Annis Valentine in London in 1611. She died before the 1623/4 muster.

Thomas Gray’s daughter Lydia Gray was born 1681, and this Lydia was dead in 1678.

Origin theories / analysis

Daughter of Thomas and Margaret (Anis) Gray per research done. According to "Historical Southern Families," Vol. XVII (available for viewing at VA State library in Richmond), Thomas Gray, Sr, ancient planter of Surry County, VA was married four times: first to Anis or Avis Valentine, children Joan Gray (b.1618) and William Gray (b. 1621 and died as a young man/older teen); second to Margaret ____ (no children listed - maybe this is where Lydia comes in?); third to Rebecca _____, children Thomas Gray (b. 1625), Rebecca Gray (b. 1628), and Francis Gray (b. 1630); and fourth, to unknown wife who mothered William Gray (YES - a different one, b. 1648), John Gray (b. 1651), and Thomas Gray (YES - also a different one, b. 1652). There are many records indicating this at the State Library.

The author and title are immediately below.

Grant, Robert N. (Robert Noel), 1945-. 1672 Samuel Judkins of Surry County, Virginia, his wife Lydia (Gray) (Judkins) Pittman, and his descendants (Kindle Locations 952-960). Menlo Park, CA : Robert N. Grant.

be recorded & is recorded by John Allen Cl: Cura." The will of Ann Judkins was dated on December 12, 1756, probated on March 15, 1757, at Surry County, Virginia, W.B. 10/87, and provided as follows: "In the name of God Amen I Ann Judkins of Southwark Parish in the County of Surry being very Sick and Weak but of Sound Perfect sence & Memory thanks be to God do make & ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner & form as followeth First and Principle I commit my Soul

Sarah (Judkins) Holt, Her Husband Page Charles Holt, And Her Descendants 78

i. Lucy (Holt) Wall And Her Husband Wall 80

ii. Henry Holt 81

iii. Ann Holt 81

iv. Charles Holt 82

V. Samuel Holt 82

vi. Hannah Holt 83

vii. William Holt 83

viii. Sarah Holt 84 2. Possibly 1760 John Judkins Of

Champion two pounds Currentt Money - 0345(090900) Item I give to my Grandson Samuel Champion two pounds Currt Money - Item I give to my Grandson Charles Champion two pounds Current Money - Item I give to my Grand Daughter Lucy Champion two Pounds Currt Money - Item I give to my Grand Daughter Sarah Champion Two pounds Current Money - Item I give to my Grand Daughter Mary Champion two Pounds Curint Money - Item I give to my

Grand Daughter Lucy Holt two Pounds Currt Money - Item I give to my Grandson Henry Holt two pounds Current Money - Item I give to my

Grand Daughter Ann Holt Two Pounds Current Money - Item I give to my

Grandson Charles Holt Two Pounds Currt Money - Item I give to my

Grandson Samuel Holt Two pounds Currt Money - Item I give to my

Grand Daughter Hannah Holt Two Pounds Current Money - Item I give to my

Grand Daughter Sarah Holt Two Pounds Current Money - Item I give to my

Grandson William Holt Two pounds Currt Money - Item I give to my

Grand Son William Judkins Two pounds ten shillings Current Money - Item I give to my Grand Daughter Mary Ann Judkins Two Pounds Ten Shillings Current Money - Item I give to my Son Samuel Judking five Shillings Current Money - 0345(090900) My Will and desire is that all the rest of my Estate after my Debts and Legices and Funeral Charges is paid may be sold and the

money Equally Devided Between my Two Daughters Ann Champion and Sarah Holt Except my wearing Cloaths and they may Devide them between them themselves. I do hereby Constitute and

My Note: This shows from the book that

them between them themselves. . . ." This record clearly identifies the children of Sarah (Judkins) Holt and Holt as follows:

1) Lucy Holt,

2) Henry Holt,

3) Ann Holt,

4) Charles Holt,

5) Samuel Holt,

6) Hannah Holt,

7) Sarah Holt, and 0345 (090900)

8) William Holt.

When Samuel died, his two year-old son Charles was left without a father. Lydia remarried before she died in 1677/8 and lived in the Lawnes Creek parish of Surry County. Her death left Charles an orphan. Her second husband, Capt. Thomas Pittman, Sr., was given custody of the young boy, on Mar 14, 1678, at the request of his deceased wife.

From Capt. Thomas Pitman, of Surry County

He [William Pittman] married a widow, Judkins, in 1672. 3) LYDIA GRAY September 10, 1672 in Surry, Surry County, Virginia, daughter of WILLIAM [??] GRAY. She was born Abt. 1635, and died February 1677/78 in Surry County, Virginia.

from Volume IV, page 535 of "Genealogies of Virginia Families': His widow, Lydia Judkins, married in the fall of 1672 Thomas Pittman, Sr., Gent., called variously Lieutenant a nd Capt. Thomas Pittman (marriage contract dated Sept. 10 , 1672, D. & W. 1672-84,p. 20), and was dead prior to Mar.4 , 1678/9, when Lieut. Pittman 'at the request of his deceased wife' transferred property to Charles Judkins, orphan ( id., p. 201).

Comments

It is thought that this is the Lydia that married Samuel Judkins, Thomas Pitman: But because of the dates the Judkins/Pitman's Lydia is actually the daughter of Thomas "AP" Gray. The is evidence based on some Judkins's wills, as well as som Gray wills, that make her more likely. The birthdate of this Lydia also makes her 9 Samuel Judkins Jr is born and couldn't be his mom..

Links

• https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:L835-TGM
• http://sites.rootsweb.com/~vaschsm/PitmanT.rtf
• https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/69719989 has her as daughter of Rebecca
• The Newsom Family (Concluded).” The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, vol. 48, no. 4, 1940, pp.358 -362. www.jstor.org/stable/4245047. https://www.jstor.org/stable/4245047?read-now=1&seq=3#page_scan_tab...