Piers de Ros

Possibly a son of

HERBERT de Ros (-after 13 Jan 1103). "…Herbertus de Ros…" witnessed the charter dated 13 Jan 1103 which records an agreement between “Philippus de Braosa” and the abbey of Fécamp [Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Fécamp, II, p. 1083].

PIERS de Ros (-before 1129). A charter of King Henry II, dated to [1156/57], confirmed donations to York St Mary, including the donation of land “in Gillinga Ridale” by “Petrus de Ros”[Early Yorkshire Charters Vol. I, 354, p. 269]. m ADELINE Espec, daughter of WILLIAM Espec Lord of Helmsley, Yorkshire and Wark, Northumberland & his wife ---. Grazebrook discusses the sources relating to the Espec family and concludes that William Espec, who died before 1110, was the father of one son and three daughters, of whom Walter and Adeline[Grazebrook, G. ‘Descent in the Male Line of the Family of Grazebrook from 1065’, Bannerman, W. B. (ed.) Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, Fourth Series, Vol. III (1910, replica edition Elibron 2005), pp. 79-81 (available Limited Preview on Google Book)]. “Walterus Espec et Adelina uxor eius” founded Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter, dated to the reign of King Henry I, witnessed by "Willielmo de Buyssy et Jordano de Buyssy et Rogero de Buyssy, filiis Hawisiæ sororis meæ primogenitæ, et Galfrido de Trailli et Willielmo de Trailli et Nicholao de Traille et Gilberto de Trailli, filiis Albredæ sororis meæ secundæ, et Everardo de Roos et Roberto de Ross, filiis Audelinæ sororis meæ junioris…"[Dugdale Monasticon VI, Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire, I, p. 208]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Walts Espec" in Yorkshire[Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), Yorkshire, p. 32]. Piers & his wife had two (known) children:

1. EVERARD de Ros (-1153 or before)
2. ROBERT de Ros (-[1162/63])

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PIERS de Ros . A charter of King Henry II, dated to [1156/57], confirmed donations to York St Mary, including the donation of land “in Gillinga Ridale” by “Petrus de Ros”[569]. m ADELINE Espec, daughter of WALTER Espec Lord of Helmsley, Yorkshire and Wark, Northumberland & his wife ---. “Walterus Espec et Adelina uxor eius” founded Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter, dated to the reign of King Henry I, witnessed by "Willielmo de Buyssy et Jordano de Buyssy et Rogero de Buyssy, filiis Hawisiæ sororis meæ primogenitæ, et Galfrido de Trailli et Willielmo de Trailli et Nicholao de Traille et Gilberto de Trailli, filiis Albredæ sororis meæ secundæ, et Everardo de Roos et Roberto de Ross, filiis Audelinæ sororis meæ junioris…"[570]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Walts Espec" in Yorkshire[571].

Piers & his wife had two children:

EVERARD de Ros
ROBERT de Ros Piers or Peter de Ros

(say 1090 - 1157?)

He is buried at Rievalux Abbey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rievaulx_Abbey

    He was steward (dapifer) of the Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness. He gave 2 carucates of land in Gilling, near Helmsley, and the church to St Mary's Abbey, York.

(a) Anschetil and Geoffrey de Ros, whose names are found in the i i th century among those of the knights of the Archbishop of Canterbury, took their name from Rots, 5 miles from Caen (Domesday Monachorum, ed. Douglas-R. Hist. Soc.-p 29-30, 8 5-87, 105); as did also Serlon de Ros, who in 1086 held land under Hugh de

Beauchamp in Beds (Round, in F.C.H. Beds, vol. i, P. 201). There seems no reason to connect Ros of Helmsley with these or later persons of the name in Kent and Essex),

(b) His s. and h. Everard describes himself, and is described, variously, as s. c Piers, s. of Piers de Rossa, s. of Piers the Steward of Holderness (Farrer, Earl Yks charters., vol. iii, PP. 82, 52; Vol. ii, PP. 44, 441). Piers's yr. s., Robert de Ros the Constable, styles himself son of Piers the Steward (Selby Coucher Book, Yorks Arch Soc., vol. i, P. 321).

(c) Early Yorks Charters, vol. i, p. 273.

(d) The foundation-charters of the first two mention Everard and Robert de Ros sons of his yst. sister Adeline (Dugdale, Mon., vol. vi, p. 208; Rievaulx Chartular Surtees Soc., p. 21). Piers or Peter de Ros was born say 1090. His parentage is unknown, he probably derived his name from Ros in Holderness Yorks (East Riding).

    Piers or Peter de Ros married Adeline Espec, daughter of William Speche, before 1109.

Piers died in 1157? At Helmsley, Yorkshire. Clay, 1913 states that he died in 1157 and was buried at Rievaulx Abbey.
He inherited his brother-in-law's estate of Helmsley, who died in March 1154!

Piers predeceased Walter Espec and was presumably dead in 1130. (Archbishop Thurstan confirmed (circa 1130-33) the church of Atwick to Bridlington Priory, with consent of Everard, s. of Piers (Ear Yorks Charters, vol. iii, p. 82).

His widow also died before her brother.(After whose death, presumably between Mich. 1157 and Mich. 1158, h, son Robert offered 1000 marks for his share of the Espec inheritance. Pipe Rc, 4 Hen. II, pp. i 4o, 146).

Children of Piers or Peter de Ros and Adeline Espec

   * Everard de Ros b. b 1109, d. c 1153

* Robert de Ros+ b. b 1125, d. c 1162

Family Sheet

HUSBAND

Name: Peter RosMale Note Born: Abt 10881088-1-1 at Ros, Holderness, Yorkshire, EnglandRos, Holderness, Yorkshire, England Married: Died: 11571157-1-1

WIFE

Name: Adeline Espec

        Born: Abt 1092 at Helmsley, Yorkshire, England

Died:
Father: William Espec
Mother: Unknown
CHILDREN

Name: Everard Ros

        Born: Abt 1120 at Helmsley, Yorkshire, England

Died:
Name: Robert Ros

        Born: Abt 1124 at Helmsley, Yorkshire, England

Died:
Wife: Sybil Valoines
NOTES

1). Victoria County, Hist of No. Riding, Yorks I 491, 4 9 2 S u rtees Soc Pub, Eng Pub F83 359 362 Hist of Nor th u , Nort h u 6 11 31, 32, 37, 38 Yorks Arc Journal 24 32 8 9. Arch iv e Record SLC, UT

Piers De ROS

Born: BEF 1086

Died: 1130, Ros, Holderness, England

Buried: ABT 1130, Rievaulx Abbey, Yorkshire, England

Father: Malcom De ROS

Mother: ¿?

Married: Adeline ESPEC (b. BEF 1086) (dau. of William Espec - sister of Walter Espec, lord of Helmesley)

Children:

1. Robert De ROS

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See "Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans," Carl Boyer III (Santa Clarita, CA, 2001), p. 213. http://www.geneajourney.com/ros.html reports: "His parentage is unknown, but he probably derived his surname from Ros in Holderness, Yorkshire. He was steward (dapifer) of the Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness. Piers gave land in Gilling near Helmsley, and the church, to St. Mary's Abbey in Yorkshire." Regarding his wife, this site reports: "Adeline was the youngest of three sisters and coheirs of Walter Espec, Lord of Helmsley, who was founder of three monasteries, Kirkham (1122) and Rievaulx (1131), both in Yorkshire, as well as Wardon in Bedfordshire (1134)."

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