Pirs Stanley of Ewlo

See Peter Bartrum, https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173426903969 Stanley 1 (May 10, 2024; Anne Brannen, curator) “Pirs Stanley of Ewlo”

See Peter Bartrum. https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173426980963 Stanley (2) of Ewlo (May 7, 2024; Anne Brannen, curator) d. Aft 1456 married Margery ferch William ap Sir John Helen of Flint

See Peter Bartrum, https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173426987043 (August 30, 2022; Anne Brannen, curator)

http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ss4tz/stanley03.php#lnkhi

• 1. Sir William Stanley (b 1387, dvp 1417) m. (1402) Blanche (or Margaret) Arderne (dau of Sir John Alderne of Aldford and/or Hardin)
  • A. Sir William Stanley of Stourton & Hooton (b 1406, d 1461) m. (1424) Mary Savage (dau of John Savage of Clifton)
    • ii. Peter Stanley ancestor of Stanleys of Flintshire & Shropshire m. Margaret Heleigh (dau of William Heleigh of Flintshire)

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Comments

Removed birth date of circa 1400

Chronology

From Steven Mitchell Ferry

Bartrum places Pirs in Gen 12, which is c.1400-1429, and makes him a brother of the William Stanley who married Alice Houghton. Stirnet makes that William Stanley at 1425, which fits Bartrum, where he is also a Gen 12.

Another brother is Edmund, also at Gen 12, showed married to Angharad ferch Hywel. But Wolcott dates Angaharad to c.1373, married to Edmund Stanley (grandfather of the previously mentioned Edmund.) Wolcott dates the Gen 12 Edmund Stanley to 1415. His daughter, Marsli Stanley, dates to c.1440, a suitable dating for the wife of c. 1430 Dafydd Fychan ap Ithel.

So, a date of 1400 to 1429 is appropriate for the Pirs Stanley who married Margery Heley. Which seems to match up with Stirnet.

However, the sources diverge as you go further back. If this Pirs is a brother of the c. 1415 Edmund Stanley, Darrell Wolcott would have him as a son of c. 1389 William Stanley IV, who was the son of c. 1360 Edmund Stanley (the one married to Angharad), who was the son of c. 1335 William Stanley III.

Stirnet makes Pirs the son of a William Stanley, b. 1406, the son of another William Stanley, b. 1368, and admits that there is some confusion in those generations. Dwnn ii, 316 matches Stirnet, even taking the line farther back (but you must discount the editor's footnotes.) Bartrum does not take the line back far enough to help us with the lineage, but his Gen numbers give some guidelines.

Notes

REMARKS: 'Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 page 382 states that part of this pedigree is at variance with the one of the same family in Ormerod's History of Cheshire; nor is it reconcilable with the account of the Savages of Clifton, as given in the same work. It also differs materially from other pedigrees of the Stanley family. Vincent #135 folio 298 has Thomas Stanley, living 1622, son of Peter (Pirs) Stanley and Constance Salisbury, son of Peter (Pirs) Stanley of Ewlo, Flint, and Margaret daughter of John Parker, son of Peter (Pirs) Stanley and Margery Heghleigh, son of Sir William Stanley of Hooton. This version inserts an extra generation of a Pirs married to a Margaret Parker.

Bosworth Field

Sir William Stanley KG (c. 1435[1] – 10 February 1495) was an English soldier and the younger brother of Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby

From https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I4760&tree...

Referring to the wrong Stanley --

Standard-bearer to Richard III at the battle of Bosworth. Sir Pirs (William) Stanley was the man who, by surrounding Richard III, at the critical moment, decided the fate of the battle of Bosworth. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 316 fn.)

He turned traitor to his Sovereign. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 316 fn. 9)

From http://www.historyextra.com/feature/treachery-what-really-brought-d...

On 22 August 1485, in marshy fields near the village of Sutton Cheney in Leicestershire, Richard III led the last charge of knights in English history. A circlet of gold around his helmet, his banners flying, he threw his destiny into the hands of the god of battles.

Among the astonished observers of this glittering panoply of horses and steel galloping towards them were Sir William Stanley and his brother Thomas, whose forces had hitherto taken no part in the action. Both watched intently as Richard swept across their front and headed towards Henry Tudor, bent only on eliminating his rival.

As the king battled his way through Henry’s bodyguard, killing his standard bearer with his own hand and coming within feet of Tudor himself, William Stanley made his move. Throwing his forces at the King’s back he betrayed him and had him hacked him down. Richard, fighting manfully and crying, “Treason! Treason!”, was butchered in the bloodstained mud of Bosworth Field by a man who was, ostensibly at least, there to support him. 

But hidden among the manuscripts in the duchy of Lancaster records in the National Archives, lies a story that provides an insight into the real reason why Thomas, Lord Stanley, and his brother William betrayed Richard at Bosworth during the Wars of the Roses. The records reveal that for more than 20 years before the battle, a struggle for power in the hills of Lancashire had lit a fuse which exploded at Bosworth. ...

See Peter Bartrum, http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5216/Bleddyn%... (June 29, 2017; Anne Brannen, curator)

1. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition ...page 118. < GoogleBooks > Not mentioned as a son of Mary Savage and Willam Stanley.