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R' Judah "The younger" Wahl Katzenellenbogen, [ances. of Mendelssohn]

Hebrew: יהודה ואהל קצנלנבוגן, [ances. of Mendelssohn]
Also Known As: "Simeon"
Birthdate:
Death: circa 1644 (21-38)
Immediate Family:

Son of Rabbi Meir Moshe Wahl Katzenellenbogen, MaHaRash and Hinda Halevi Katzenellenbogen
Husband of Dreizel Katzenellenbogen
Father of Shaul Wahl Katzenellenbogen
Brother of Telza (Rivele) Sofer; Deborah Lubliner; Judah Katzenellenbogen; R' Nachum Wahl Katzenellenbogen, A.B.D. Slutsk; R' Moshe Katzenellenbogen Wahl, ABD Chelm and 8 others

Occupation: Rabbi
Managed by: Private User
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About R' Judah "The younger" Wahl Katzenellenbogen, [ances. of Mendelssohn]

REPLY to REPLY to TEMPORARY POST:

1) According to the 3rd Edition of Unbroken Chain, Chapter 3, page 430:

G5.5 Judah Wahl, called the "younger," as he was named after his deceased brother, married Dreizel, daughter of Simeon Wulff of Vilna, who settled in Hamburg and died in 1682. Judah and Dreizel were distantly related by virtue of the fact that his maternal grandmother, Miriam was a sister of Simeon Wulff's ancestor, the prominent Talmudist R. Moses Isserles, known in the rabbinical world as the ReMa 1520-72 of Cracow, where the family originated. Dreizel the elder was the wife of R. Simha Bonem Meisel (Meisels) of Cracow.

2) According to page 26 of the current edition of UC, we find the following:

G5.6 Judah Katzenellenbogen, known as "the younger", was the son from the 2nd wife. He married the daughter of R. Zeev Wolf, son of R. Isaac Bonem's of Vilna. R. Zeev's mother was the daughter of R. Simcha Bones Meisels of Cracow, son-in-law of R. Moses Isserles (the ReMa).

Based on the above and the GENI tree, there are two ways of reconciling these facts: 1) It could be that Hinda Halevi Katzenellenbogen is the second wife of Rabbi Meir Moshe Wahl Katzenellenbogen, MaHaRash, and the mother of R' Judah "The younger" Wahl Katzenellenbogen, [ances. of Mendelssohn], or 2) it could be that Beile Wahl-Katzenellenbogen is the second wife, and the mother of R' Judah "The younger" Wahl Katzenellenbogen, [ances. of Mendelssohn].

According to the locked (and therefore presumably vetted) GENI profile of Hinda Halevi Katzenellenbogen, she is the daughter of Rabbi Pinchas HaLevi Horowitz and Miriam Beila Horowitz (Isserles), REMA's sister, and therefore the sister of ReMa. 2) Beile Wahl-Katzenellenbogen is shown as the daughter of rabbi nachum,A.B.D. ludmir (a fact which is confirmed by the Volodymir Book (https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Volodymyr_Volynskyy/vol022.html#Pa...), with no mother.

Since I see no evidence that Beile Wahl-Katzenellenbogen is the daughter of ReMa's sister, it seems that option 1 is the best way of reconciling the two UC statements:. Hinda Halevi Katzenellenbogen is the second wife of Rabbi Meir Moshe Wahl Katzenellenbogen, MaHaRash, and the mother of R' Judah "The younger" Wahl Katzenellenbogen, [ances. of Mendelssohn].

Since there is room for confusion based on the UC 3rd Edition, I think it wise to retain the 'TEMPORARY' posts and REPLIES.

REPLY to TEMPORARY POST:
In page 26 of the current edition of UC, we find the following:

G5.6 Judah Katzenellenbogen, known as "the younger", was the son from the 2nd wife. He married the daughter of R. Zeev Wolf, son of R. Isaac Bonem's of Vilna. R. Zeev's mother was the daughter of R. Simcha Bones Meisels of Cracow, son-in-law of R. Moses Isserles (the ReMa).

Since the 2nd wife is listed as Beila (see Chapter 1, page 23), doesn't this mean that Beila should be the correct mother?

TEMPORARY POST: The correct mother of Judah the Younger is:
Hinda Halevi Katzenellenbogen
Please detach him from Beile Wahl-Katzenellenbogen and attach him to Hinda (keeping the father the same: he was married twice).

According to the 3rd Edition of Unbroken Chain, Chapter 3, page 430:

G5.5 Judah Wahl, called the "younger," as he was named after his deceased brother, married Dreizel, daughter of Simeon Wulff of Vilna, who settled in Hamburg and died in 1682. Judah and Dreizel were distantly related by virtue of the fact that his maternal grandmother, Miriam was a sister of Simeon Wulff's ancestor, the prominent Talmudist R. Moses Isserles, known in the rabbinical world as the ReMa 1520-72 of Cracow, where the family originated. Dreizel the elder was the wife of R. Simha Bonem Meisel (Meisels) of Cracow.

The reference cited on the Beile Wahl-Katzenellenbogen page, from the Volodymyr Book (https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Volodymyr_Volynskyy/vol022.html#Pa...) says that Rabbi Meir Moshe Wahl Katzenellenbogen, MaHaRash was married to Bielah but not that she was the mother of Judah the Younger. The UC passage quoted above says that Judah's maternal grandmother was Hinda's mother Miriam.
(01 OCT 2022)

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Judah Wahl was known as the "younger" as he was named after his deceased brother.

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