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Ranulf II de Poitiers, duc d'Aquitaine

Nicknames: "Rainulf", "Rainulphe", "Rannoux", "Rannulf", "Ramnulf", "Ranulph", "and Ranulph"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Poitiers, Poitou, Aquitaine (Present Poitou-Charentes), (Present France)
Death: Died in Paris, (Present Région Ile-de-France), France
Cause of death: Poisoned by order of Charles III, the Simple
Immediate Family:

Son of Ranulf I d'Auvergne, Comte de Poitiers Duc d'Aquitaine and Bilichilde ii du Maine, daughter of Roricon II & Bilichilde, sister of Roricon III
Husband of Senegonde d'Angouleme de Poitiers; Ada; (fora do casamento) and Irmgard de Poitou
Partner of Judith van Aquitanie, Mistress of Rainulfe II
Father of Amaury de Marcillac; Ranulf III, Count of Poitou; Guillaume I d'Aquitaine; Arsende de Poitiers and Ebles II Manzer, duc d'Aquitaine
Brother of Ermengarda de Poitiers and Ebles de Poitiers, abbé de Saint Denis
Half brother of Gauzbert de Poitiers and Emenon de Poitiers

Occupation: Comte de Poitiers (877-890), "King of Aquitaine" (888-890), Count of Pitou & Aquitiaine, Greve av Poitou, Comte, de Poitiers, Duc, d'Aquitaine, Abbé laïc, de Saint-Hilaire, Conde de Poitou e Duque da Aquitania, Duc d'Aquitaine, King of Aquitaine
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About Ranulf II de Poitiers, duc d'Aquitaine

Ranulf II (also spelled Rannoux, Rannulf, Ramnulf, and Ranulph; 850 – 5 August 890) was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887. On the death of Charles the Fat in 888, he styled himself King of Aquitaine and did so until 889 or his death, after which the title fell into abeyance.

He may have been selected as a temporary king by the Aquitainian nobles, for they accepted Odo of France after his death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title. He is recorded to have taken custody of Charles, the young son of Louis the Stammerer and he certainly did not recognise Odo as king. He appeared in the Annales Vedastes in 889 with the title dux maximae partis Aquitaniae: "duke of the major part of Aquitaine." He founded the viscountcy of Thouars at about that time, part of larger movement to creat viscounts with powers over regional fortresses to man them against the Vikings.

Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too.

Sources

   * Lewis, Archibald Ross. The Development of Southern French and Catalan Society, 718–1050. University of Texas Press: Austin, 1965.
   * MacLean, Simon. Kingship and Politics in the Late Ninth Century: Charles the Fat and the end of the Carolingian Empire. Cambridge University Press: 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranulf_II_of_Poitiers

Preceded by Carloman (as King) Duke of Aquitaine 887–890 Succeeded by Ebalus Preceded by Ranulf I Count of Poitiers 866–890 Succeeded by Ranulf III

-------------------- From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Aquitaine:

RAINULF ([845/50]-Paris 890).

The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes specifies that "Ramnulfus…comes Pictaviensis" was "consanguineus…Willelmi…comitis Arvernis"[252]. The Chronico Richardi Pictavensis also states that "Ramnulfus consanguineus erat Willelmi Pii Aquitanorum Ducis et Arveniæ Comitis"[253].

The relationship between Rainulf and Duke Guillaume has not so far been traced.

After the death of Rainulf's father in 866, he and his brothers were deprived of their inheritance. It appears that no-one was installed as Comte de Poitou, the county being administered by Louis King of Aquitaine, son of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[254]. He appears to have been finally installed as RAINULF II Comte de Poitou in [878], judging by his heading the list of confirmants of his brother's Apr 878 donation to the church of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers[255].

After the death of Louis II "le Bègue" King of the West Franks, Comte Rainulf had custody of the late king's youngest son Charles, who later succeeded as Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks[256].

After the deposition of Emperor Karl III in Nov 887, Comte Rainulf claimed the succession to the kingdom of Aquitaine and supported the candidature of Guy of Spoleto as King of the Franks[257]. He was appointed Duke of Aquitaine in 888.

The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence records the death in 890 of "Ramnulfus comes Pictavinus"[258].

m [ERMENGARDE, daughter of ---] (-1 Jul after 890). The name of the wife of Rainulf II is not known with certainty.

"Ermengarde" confirmed the 878 charter of Gauzbert, signing immediately after Gauzbert and his brother Comte Rainulf, from which Richard deduces that she was the wife of one of them. The same author rejects the hypothesis that Adda "coniunx Ramnulf", whose tomb was discovered at Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, was the wife of Comte Rainulf II[259].

Mistress (1): ---. The name of Comte Rainulf's mistress is not known. (OUR ANCESTOR)

Comte Rainulf & his wife had one child: 1. Rainulf III (d. 901)

Comte Rainulf II had one illegitimate son by an unknown Mistress: 1. Ebalus (Eble) "Mancer" (b. 870/875, d. 934, Succeeded as Comte de Poitou, OUR ANCESTOR)

From the French Wikipedia page on Ramnulf II de Poitiers: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramnulf_II_de_Poitiers

Ramnulf II, Rainulf II ou Renoul II de Poitiers (v. 850[1] † 5 août 890) est comte de Poitiers de 877 à 890 et duc d'Aquitaine de 888 à 890[2]. Il est fils de Ramnulf Ier, comte de Poitiers[2] et d'une femme qui peut être, suivant les hypothèses, Bilchilde du Maine, une de ses sœurs, peut-être prénommée Adaltrude, ou une princesse guilhelmide[3].

Biographie

Il est élevé à la cour de Charles le Chauve, roi des Francs Occidentaux[4]. Son père meurt en 866, tué par les vikings lors de la bataille de Brissarthe[5]. Ramnulf II n'est alors âgé que de seize ans environ. Son suzerain, le roi Charles le Chauve a d'autres préoccupation : le litige entre le pape et son neveu Lothaire II à propos de la situation matrimoniale de ce dernier, sa propre situation matrimoniale avec un complot organisé par son beau-frère Guillaume d'Orléans, qui est décapité en 866, les inquiétudes sur ses fils qu'il ne juge pas à la hauteur[6]. Il est vrai aussi que le roi cherche à écarter du pouvoir les grandes familles féodales au profit des membres de sa famille maternelle[7]. Ce manque d'intérêt envers Poitiers permet au guilhelmide Bernard de Gothie à s'emparer du comté, sans en recevoir l'investiture du roi[8],[9].

Charles le Chauve meurt en 877 et Bernard de Gothie refuse de reconnaître Louis II le Bègue, le nouveau roi. Son conseiller, Hugues l'Abbé, lui retire le comté de Poitiers, qu'il confie à Ramnulf II. Bernard de Gothie se révolte, est excommunié par le pape Jean VIII et est dépossédé de ses honneurs[4]. Le but d'Hugues l'Abbé est de se constituer une clientèle parmi les grands féodaux afin d'asseoir son pouvoir : en plus du Poitou confié à Ramnulf, la Saintonge est donné à Gauzbert, frère de Ramnulf II et Ebles, le troisième frère, devient abbé de Saint-Denis. Hugues l'Abbé ayant eu ses honneurs au détriment des Robertiens, il s'ensuivra durant plusieurs générations une opposition entre les Capétiens, issus des Robertiens, et les ducs d'Aquitaine, issus de Ramnulf[10]. Louis II le Bègue meurt au bout de deux ans, en 879, et Hugues l'abbé fait couronner les deux aînés du roi, puis procède peu après au partage du royaume : Louis III reçoit la Francie et la Neustrie, tandis que l'Aquitaine et la Bourgogne échoient à Carloman II, à qui Ramnulf II prête serment. Mais les deux rois, chacun après avoir remporté des succès contre les vikings, meurent, Louis III en 882 et Carloman II en 884. Les grands du royaume offrent la couronne au roi germanique Charles le Gros, mais ce dernier est incapable de lutter contre les vikings et meurt abandonné de tous en 888. Les seigneurs du nord du royaume de Francie Occidentale élisent roi le robertien Eudes, qui s'est illustré dans la lutte contre les Vikings[11].

Mais aucun seigneurs au sud de la Loire ne reconnaissent le nouveau roi. Ramnulf II accueille Charles, le dernier fils de Louis II le Bègue, âgé de sept ans, et s'intitule duc d'Aquitaine. Eudes s'attache les deux frères de Ramnulf, Gauzbert et Ebles, et se rend à Poitiers dans le but de soumettre Ramnulf, mais ce dernier va à sa rencontre avec une importante troupe. Pour éviter une bataille qui risque de l'affaiblir, Eudes négocie et Ramnulf promet de ne pas attaquer Eudes et lui prête un vague serment d'allégeance. Six mois plus tard, le roi lui donne plusieurs domaines et Ramnulf se rend à Paris, où il meurt le 5 août 890, peut-être empoisonné, après avoir confié son fils Ebles Manzer à Géraud d'Aurillac.[12].

Famille

Il a épousé un certaine Ermengarde dont on ne sait rien d'autre. Selon les Europäische Stammtafeln, ils auraient eu un fils, Ramnulf III mort en 901, mais sans en préciser la source. Il paraît cependant curieux que ce fils légitime qui survit à son père ne lui pas succédé et que le comté revient à un fils bâtard. En conclusion, l'existence de ce fils légitime n'est pas assuré et, s'il a réellement vécu, il est peu probable qu'il aie survécu à son père[2].

D'une maîtresse inconnue, il a eu un fils illégitime, Ebles Manzer († 934), qui lui succède[2].

comte de Poitiers 877-890 Preceded by Bernard de Gothie Succeeded by Ebles Manzer

duc d'Aquitaine 888-890 Preceded by Ramnulf Ier 854-866 Succeeded by Guillaume le Pieux 909-918

Notes et références

1.↑ Settipani 2000, p. 98-99. 2.↑ a, b, c et d Ramnulf II sur le site de la FMG [archive]. 3.↑ Pour plus de précision sur ces hypothèses, voir l'article Ramnulf Ier de Poitiers. 4.↑ a et b Dillange 1995, p. 71. 5.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 51. 6.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 63. 7.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 72. 8.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 68. 9.↑ Bernard de Gothie sur le site de la FMG [archive]. 10.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 72. 11.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 72-74. 12.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 74-75 et 77.

Bibliographie

Michel Dillange, Les Comtes de Poitou, Ducs d'Aquitaine (778-1204), Geste éditions, coll. « La Crèche », 1995, 304 p. (ISBN 2-910919-09-9)

Pierre Riché, Les Carolingiens, une famille qui fit l'Europe, Hachette, coll. « Pluriel », Paris, 1983 (réimpr. 1997), 490 p. (ISBN 2-01-278851-3)

Christian Settipani, « Les origines des comtes de Nevers », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 85-112

In English:

Ranulf II of Poitiers (b. c.850 d. 5 August 890) was Comte de Poitiers 877-890 and Duke of Aquitaine 888-890. He was the son of Ranulf I, Comte de Poitiers and a woman who, depending upon assumptions, could be Bilchilde du Maine, one of her sisters, Adaltrude, or Princess Guilhelmide.

Biography

He was raised in the Court of Charles the Bald, King of the West Franks. His father died in 866 when he was killed by Vikings at the Battle of Brissarthe. Ranulf II was age 16.

His sovereign, King Charles the Bald, had other concerns: a dispute between the Pope and his nephew Lothair II over Lothair's marital status, his own marital situation, a plot organized by his brother Guillaume d'Orleans (who was beheaded in 866), and concerns about his son not living up to his expectations. It is also true that the King sought to remove power from the great feudal families toward the benefit of his mother. This lack of interest in Poitiers allowed the Guilhelmide family under Bernard of Gothia to seize the county without being attacked by the King.

Charles the Bald died in 877, and Bernard of Gothia refused to recognize Louis II "le Begue", the new king. His advisor, Abbot Hugh, was removed from the County of Poitiers, and so he sided with Ranulf II. Bernard of Gothia rebelled, was excommunicated by Pope John VIII, and stripped of his honors.

Abbot Hugh sought closer relations among the feudal lords to consolidate his own power, and provide more to Ranulf of Poitou. Saintonge was given to Gauzbert, brother of Ranulf II and Ebles (their third brother, who became Abbot of St-Denis). Abbot Hugh made gains at the expense of the Robertians, and for several generations the Capetians and Robertians become rivals.

Louis II le Begue died after two years in power in 879, and Abbot Hugh was crowned King. He proceeded shortly after to divide his Kingdom: Louis III received Francia and Neustria, while Aquitaine and Burgundy went to Carloman II, who swore loyalty to Ranulf II.

But the two kings, each after having success against the Vikings, both die, Louis III in 882 and Carloman II in 884. The nobility offer the crown to German King Charles the Fat, but he is unable to fight against the Vikings and dies after his supporters abandon him in 888. The lords of the northern part of the Kingdom of West Francia elect the Robertian noble Odo, who distinguished himself in the fight against the Vikings.

But none of the lords south of the Loire recognized the new king. Ranulf II hosted Charles, the youngest son of Louis II "le Begue" ("The Stammerer"), age 7, who was named Duke of Aquitaine.

(English Wikipedia says that he styled himself the King of Aquitaine in 888, a title he continued to insist upon until 889 or his death a year later, after which the title fell into abeyance. He may have been selected as temporary king by the Aquitainian nobility, for they accepted Odo of France after his death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title.)

Odo focused on Ranulf's two brothers, Gauzbert and Ebles, and went to Poitiers to force Ranulf to submit, but Ranulf responds with a large army. To avoid a battle that could only weaken him, Odo negotiates and Ranulf promises not to attack Odo, giving him a vague pledge of allegiance.

(English Wikipedia says that he appeared in the Annales Vedastes in 889 with the title of Dux maximae partis Aquitaniae, or "Duke of the major part of Aquitaine". He founded the Viscountcy of Thouars around this time, part of a larger movement to create Viscounts with powers over regional fortresses to man them against the Vikings.)

Six months later, the King gave him several areas and Ranulf went to Paris, where he died on 5 August 890, likely poisoned. He entrusted his illegitimate son Ebles "Manzer" to Gerald d'Aurillac.

Family

He married Ermengarde (d. 935), of whom we know nothing. According to the Europaische Stammtafeln, he would have had a son, Ranulf III, who died in 901, but no primary source is specified. However, it seems strange that an illegitimate son who survived his father succeeded him, and that his county would be given over to a bastard son rather than a legitimate son. In conclusion, the existence of his son is not certain, and if he really lived, it is not likely that he survived his father.

By an unknown mistress, Ebles Manzer (d. 934) was born, and he later succeeded him. --------------------

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramnulf_II._%28Poitou%29 Ramnulf II. (Poitou) aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie Wechseln zu: Navigation, Suche

Ramnulf II. von Poitou, auch Ranulf oder Rainulf genannt, († 3. oder 5. August 890) war ein Graf von Poitou aus der Familie der Ramnulfiden. Er war ein Sohn des Grafen Ramnulf I. und dessen Ehefrau Bilchilde, einer Tochter des Grafen Roricos I. von Maine. Leben [Bearbeiten]

Nach dem Tod seines Vaters (er fiel 866 in der Schlacht von Brissarthe) wurden Ramnulf und seine Brüder Gauzbert und Ebalus von Bernhard von Gothien aus dem Poitou verdrängt (868). Sie fanden am Hof des aquitanischen Unterkönigs Ludwig der Stammler Zuflucht, auch noch, als dieser 872 von Karl dem Kahlen unter die Vormundschaft Bernhards und anderer gestellt wurde. Nachdem Karl der Kahle 877 gestorben war und Ludwig der Stammler dessen Nachfolge im Gesamtreich angetreten hatte, wurde Bernhard von Gothien nach einer erfolglosen Revolte vertrieben, worauf Ramnulf sein väterliches Erbe wieder in Besitz nehmen konnte.

Ludwig der Stammler starb 879 und sein im gleichen Jahr geborener Sohn Karl der Einfältige wurde dem Schutz Ramnulfs bzw. dessen Gewalt anvertraut. Nach der Absetzung Kaiser Karls des Dicken (887) verweigerte Ramnulf dem gewählten König Odo die Anerkennung, protegierte hingegen seinen Schützling Karl den Einfältigen. Er regierte fortan im westlichen Aquitanien als eigenständiger Fürst, weswegen ihm in den Annales Fuldenses der Titel König von Aquitanien zugesprochen wurde. Nachdem sich Odo nördlich der Loire weitestgehend durchgesetzt hatte, versöhnte sich Ramnulf mit ihm Anfang 889. Er behielt seine königsgleiche Stellung und wurde in den Annales Vedastes als „dux maximae partis Aquitaniae“ (Herzog des größten Teils von Aquitanien) genannt. Dabei ist zu beachten, dass Ramnulf diese Würde weder verliehen bekam, noch er selbst je usurpiert hatte. Der erste Fürst Aquitaniens war zudem Wilhelm der Fromme, mit dem Ramnulf in Freundschaft verbunden war. Die Titulierung als Dux sollte lediglich Ramnulfs herausragende Machtstellung verdeutlichen.

Ramnulf gründete in seinem Machtbereich Vizegrafschaften, darunter auch die Vizegrafschaft Thouars, um sein Land besser vor den Überfällen der Wikinger zu schützen. Ramunlf galt trotz seines Ausgleichs mit König Odo stets als dessen größte Bedrohung. Als er im Jahre 890 während eines Treffens mit dem König starb, wurde Odo unter anderem von Ademar von Chabannes des Giftmordes verdächtigt.

Ramnulfs Ehefrau hieß Ada; sie ging nach seinem Tod in ein Kloster. Ihr Grabmal befindet sich in Poitiers in einem Museum. Sie hatten einen Sohn, Ramnulf III., der aber wohl im Jahr 901 ohne Nachkommen starb. Daneben hatte Ramnulf II. einen unehelichen Sohn, Ebalus Mancer, der ihm im Poitou folgte. Weblinks [Bearbeiten]

   * Materialsammlung

Vorgänger Amt Nachfolger Ramnulf I. Graf von Poitou 866–868 Bernhard von Gothien Bernhard von Gothien Graf von Poitou 878–890 Ebalus Mancer --------------------

-------------------- Ranulf II (also spelled Rannoux, Rannulf, Ramnulf, and Ranulph) (850 – 5 August 890) was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887. On the death of Charles the Fat in 888, he styled himself King of Aquitaine and did so until 889 or his death, after which the title fell into abeyance. He may have been selected as a temporary king by the Aquitainian nobles, for they accepted Odo of France after his death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title. He is recorded to have taken custody of Charles, the young son of Louis the Stammerer and he certainly did not recognise Odo as king. He appeared in the Annales Vedastes in 889 with the title dux maximae partis Aquitaniae: "duke of the major part of Aquitaine." He founded the viscountcy of Thouars at about that time, part of larger movement to create viscounts with powers over regional fortresses to man them against the Vikings. Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too. -------------------- Ranulf II (also spelled Rannoux, Rannulf, Ramnulf, and Ranulph) (850 – 5 August 890) was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887. On the death of Charles the Fat in 888, he styled himself King of Aquitaine and did so until 889 or his death, after which the title fell into abeyance. He may have been selected as a temporary king by the Aquitainian nobles, for they accepted Odo of France after his death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title. He is recorded to have taken custody of Charles, the young son of Louis the Stammerer and he certainly did not recognise Odo as king. He appeared in the Annales Vedastes in 889 with the title dux maximae partis Aquitaniae: "duke of the major part of Aquitaine." He founded the viscountcy of Thouars at about that time, part of larger movement to create viscounts with powers over regional fortresses to man them against the Vikings. Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too. -------------------- Ranulf II of Aquitaine

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ranulf II (also spelled Rannoux, Rannulf, Ramnulf, and Ranulph; 850 – 5 August 890) was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887. On the death of Charles the Fat in 888, he styled himself King of Aquitaine and did so until 889 or his death, after which the title fell into abeyance.

He may have been selected as a temporary king by the Aquitainian nobles, for they accepted Odo of France after his death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title. He is recorded to have taken custody of Charles, the young son of Louis the Stammerer and he certainly did not recognise Odo as king. He appeared in the Annales Vedastes in 889 with the title dux maximae partis Aquitaniae: "duke of the major part of Aquitaine." He founded the viscountcy of Thouars at about that time, part of larger movement to creat viscounts with powers over regional fortresses to man them against the Vikings.

Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too.

Sources

Lewis, Archibald Ross. The Development of Southern French and Catalan Society, 718–1050. University of Texas Press: Austin, 1965.

MacLean, Simon. Kingship and Politics in the Late Ninth Century: Charles the Fat and the end of the Carolingian Empire. Cambridge University Press: 2003. -------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranulf_II_of_Aquitaine

Ranulf II (also spelled Rannoux, Rannulf, Ramnulf, and Ranulph) (850 – 5 August 890) was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887. On the death of Charles the Fat in 888, he styled himself King of Aquitaine and did so until 889 or his death, after which the title fell into abeyance.

Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too.

Ranulf may have been selected as a king by the Aquitainian nobles, for they accepted King Odo of France in 892 only after Ranulf's death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title, saying "Ranulf then set himself up as king" (Deinceps Rannolfus se regem haberi statuit). He is recorded to have taken custody of Charles, the young son of Louis the Stammerer and he certainly did not recognise Odo as king. The Annales Vedastes record that in 889

-------------------- Ranulf II (also spelled Rannoux, Rannulf, Ramnulf, and Ranulph) (850 – 5 August 890) was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887. On the death of Charles the Fat in 888, he styled himself King of Aquitaine and did so until 889 or his death, after which the title fell into abeyance.

Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too.

Ranulf may have been selected as a king by the Aquitainian nobles, for they accepted King Odo of France in 892 only after Ranulf's death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title, saying "Ranulf then set himself up as king" (Deinceps Rannolfus se regem haberi statuit). He is recorded to have taken custody of Charles, the young son of Louis the Stammerer and he certainly did not recognise Odo as king. The Annales Vedastes record that in 889

Post nativitatem vero Domini cum paucis Francis Aquitaniam perrexit, ut eos sibi sociaret. Quo audito, Ramnulfus, dux maximae partis Aquitaniae, cum sibi faventibus venit ad eum, adducens secum Karolum puerum, filium Hludowici regis; et iuravit illi quae digna fuerunt, simul et de ipso puerulo. . . Aquitanos itaque rex ex parte receptos, festinavit propter Nortmannos redire in Franciam.

After Christmas [888], [Odo] went to Aquitaine with a few Franks, in order to be accepted [as king]. Upon hearing this, Ranulf, duke of the greater part of Aquitaine, with his supporters came to him, bringing with him the child, Charles, the son of King Louis; and he swore to him who was worthy of it [i.e., Odo], as did the boy. . . So the king returned from Aquitaine to France [in June] because of the Norsemen.

Ranulf founded the viscountcy of Thouars at about this time, as part of a larger movement to create viscounts with powers over regional fortresses to man them against the Vikings.

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