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About Reverend Robert Perry, Jr.
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Custom Field:<_FA#> No children with first wife Anne Rogers
Several reports list 15 children. According to Sally's death notice the re were 7 boys and 5 girls. One child died in infancy Hannah, and another died at 24. A picture from Cora Reid shows the Seven Sons of Robert Per ry and they are in their 30's and 40's. It lists John, Barnabas, Simeon, Daniel, Henry, Ebenezer and Peter. Since none of the boys died at 24 that means a daughter died at 21. Could there be 6 daughters for 13. A list I have lists 13 children including 6 women - Mary, Nancy, Jane, Sally, Ann and Hannah. Since Hannah died young and Mary, Nancy, Jane and Sally married.. Ann must have died at 24. So I do not believe there is a Luke, Jane and Mary Jane are the same person, Ann died at 24. See the notes on John F Perry Seems he was married a divorced woman and moved to t he US. in 1863 I wonder if the picture was taken at the same time as t he one of Robert in the 1850's
An early Methodist minister, Robert had three wives! He had none by the first, six children by the second, and 13 by the third. Obituary in Conference Methodist Episcopal Church 1856 page 31 ____________________________________ Census 1851 Perry, Robert Preacher US 81 M Perry, Sally US 63 W Perry, Henry Farmer CW 36 S Perry, John Labourer CW 25 S Perry, Sally T. CW 23 S Perry, Bidwell, B. Farmer CW 28 M Perry, Catharine CW 24 M Perry, Alfonzo CW 2 S MdConalnd, Matilda 12 Servant ______________________________________
Anecdotes about Rev. Robert Perry
Reference: Case and His Contemporaries on The Canadian Itinerants Memorial, Constituting a Biographical History of Methodism in Canada from its Introduction into the Province, Till the Death of William Case in 1855, by John Carroll, Vol. 1 to 5, 1867. Available at the Douglas Library, Queen's University.
From Volume 1:
Page 18: (1805) "He (William Case) was received on trial with five other s, one of whom, Robert Perry, was destined for a time to be an immediate coadjutor; but of him more anon."
Page 34: (1805) "Robert Perry, the last of Case's compeers, was certainly not the least, corporeally at any rate, For he was like all the Perry b rothers, of whom there were several, compact, heavy, and wiry. Certain bluffness of manners corresponded with his looks. We have said hews a Canadian. The Perrys lived in the Bay of Quinte country; were U.E. Loyalists and very respectable. Peter, called by his opponents ' The Political Bulldog', was long an indefatigable and influential member of the Legislative assembly on the Liberal side; the Hon. Ebenezer Perry,alive at this writing, and a member of the Legislative Council, was also brother of Robert. The family early espoused the cause of Methodism,and two other brother s, at least, were preachers in the local ranks -Daniel and David. It must not be forgotten that the great, good mother of the Aylesworths was the ir sister. A son of Daniel is at this present time a local preacher in t he Wesleyan Church, a man of intelligence and influence. We have seen Robert was only received on trial in the travelling ministry this year, 180 5. They are testing him pretty well in sending him across the fifty-mile woods in the Glengarry country, to the far off Ottawa. But he is not like ly to be easily scared or soon fatigued; and the homily analogies that mark his sermons are likely to make his preaching hearable, and suited to the tastes and wants of the times."
Page 157: "On a moving sermon by Reverend William Snow, Robert Perry cou ld contain no longer, he burst forth with 'Glory to God for Snow in the su mmer!' "
Page 159: (1808, Yonge Street Circuit, Robert Perry)
Page 169: (1809 -1810, Niagara Circuit, Henry Ryan, Robert Perry)
Page 179: (1810 at Yonge Street Circuit) "Young Reverend John Reynolds h ad anticipated the presence of the Presiding Elder (Rev. Joseph Sawyer) to lead the Sunday Morning Love Fest and had not prepared a sermon. But t he Elder had not arrived, causing him anxiety. Seeking guidance and ju st as his eyes rested on the words ' God comforteth those that are cast do wn, comforted us by the coming of Titus', a stranger arose, not the Revere nd Mr. Sawyer, but a younger, bluff looking man, who uttered the word 'Lov e' in a clear, surging voice. It is a voice unknown to Mr.Reynolds, but fa miliar to the people and it sends a thrill of joy among them, while wor ds of similar character follow thick and fast from his lips. It is no oth er than the fervent Robert Perry, who had labored on the Circuit with gre at acceptability the year before, and who the Presiding Elder had se nt to supply his place for that time, among his old friends."
Page 181: (1806, The Niagara Circuit) " The only glimpse we get of hone st Robert in this Circuit is the following:- Preaching a sermon, at the 'F ifty Mile Creek', a little too allegorical, which diverted the less revere ntial, and offended the taste of the more grave and discerning, frequent m istake of the times; a hired man returning from the meeting tote family wi th which he lived , and said 'The minister preached all about sheep, and a ll the people laughed, except Hugh Wilson, and he looked as mad!' "
Page 199: (1809, Long Point Circuit, Robert Perry)
Page 247: "Robert Perry's disappearance from the list of Itinerants w as a 'location'. It was a pity, but, considering the exigency of the times ,perhaps a necessity. He had been married at the early age of eighteen,and had some children. But his wife died before his going into the itinerant work, and it is believed he remained single nearly the whole time of his travelling.. It may have been that the care of his children who perchance could no longer be kept among his relations, obliged him to marry, and with marriage in that day, usually came location. He continued to serve the old connection in a local sphere until about 1816, when alas,he identified himself with the 'Reformed Methodists', of whom more anon. When th ey come into sight we shall have something more to say of good,but narrow- minded Robert Perry."
From Volume 2:
Page 48: Re the Reformed Methodist Secession: "That secession received t he adhesion of the two Perrys, Robert and Daniel, and a large proporti on of the membership in and around the Chapel, in the 4th Concession of Er nestown. If we mistake not, the church itself fell into their hands for so me years."
Page 101: "As to Canada, the Chapel they took away reverted, in the cour se of years, to the old connection, and was taken up again as a preachi ng place, and was refitted and re-opened about the year 1837, the Rev. Ege rton Ryerson preaching a powerful sermon on the principles of Methodi sm on the occasion, which was published. It now comprises one of the plac es on the Odessa Circuit, if we mistake not."
Page 102: "As to the two Perrys, they hold on, however, to earnest religio n, and gradually became more moderate In their views and less hostile in t heir feelings to the old church. The death beds of both, we have been info rmed, was cheered with the visits, and their funeral sermons preached by W esleyan Ministers --- Robert's by the Rev. R.Corson, and Daniel's by the R ev. C. R. Allison. Some of the warmest and active adherents of standard Me thodism are to be found among the descendants of David Perry, if not Rober t."
From the Journal of William Case, April 1808 to August 1809, publish ed in the Hay Bay Guardian, Vol. 7.
Page 10: ?On Monday morning 8 Aug I set out from J. Detlors in company wi th br. & sist. Perry, for Bay Quinte C (camp) meeting. We travelled on fr om place to place thro a dreary wood most of the way for a 100 miles, wh en we parted, he for the north side & I the south side of the Bay. (Note from Paper : Robert Perry and Sally Sine were married in 1808 and th ey took the north shore route probably to visit the Sine family who liv ed near Belleville.)
Page 15: ? In March visited br. Perry?s Crt & attended his Qr. M. &found m uch faith and great consolation in preaching to the people, who were mu ch moved, & some professed to have found the blessed Savior. These peop le seemed like Christians, loving, humble, faithful. Br. P. seems worn do wn by intense labor and sating colds. A faithful, holy man, a laborio us & successful Minister, loved by the serious, hated by the impenitent. H is labor this year has been greatly blessed, the crt. has doubled its numb er and the work is still going forward. _____________________
From the Journal of William Case, April 1808 to August 1809, publish ed in the Hay Bay Guardian, Vol. 7.
Page 10: "On Monday morning 8 Aug I set out from J. Detlors in compa ny with br. & sist. Perry, for Bay Quinty C (camp) meeting. We travell ed on from place to place thro a dreary wood most of the way for a 100 mi les, when we parted, he for the north side & I the south side of the Ba y. (Note from Paper : Robert Perry and Sally Sine were married in 1808 a nd they took the north shore route probably to visit the Sine family w ho lived near Belleville.)
Page 15: "In March visited br. Perry's Crt & attended his Qr. M. & fou nd much faith and great consolation in preaching to the people, who we re much moved, & some professed to have found the blessed Savior. These p eople seemed like Christians, loving, humble, faithful. Br. P. seems wo rn down by intense labor and sating colds. A faithful, holy man, a labori ous & successful Minister, loved by the serious, hated by the impeniten t. His labor this year has been greatly blessed, the crt. has doubled i ts number and the work is still going forward. __________________
International Genealogical Index Film 1903821 gives Robert's birthda te as 20 December 1772 "of Ernestown". Film 1760733 gives his birthda te as 1773 "of Bristol, MA".
Many of the details about descendan ts of Rev. Robert Perry have been taken from the Brandt Zatterbergh U. E. Genealogy Report on the Perry family and from the Russ Waller U.E. bo ok "Lennox & Addington County Loyalists Families - M to Y". On October 2 4, 1793, Robert Perry Jr. and Esther Aylesworth were married in the recen tly built St John's Anglican Church at Ernest Town (now Bath, Ontario). D uring the period that they were married he received a free grant of lot 2 7, Concession IV of Fredericksburgh on which it is he probably start ed to clear for farming. The 1878 Historical Atlas shows that locati on to be owned, at that time, by his son Bidwell Banabus Perry. 1803 w as a tragic year for Robert and the Aylesworth family, as Esther, her par ents and two of her brothers died. Records do not show what was the cau se of Esther's death, but the others had been stricken by "spotted fever ", a form of meningitis. In the following years Robert became a memb er of the Episcopal Methodist Church and in 1805 started a 6 year sti nt as a circuit rider preacher. He and Esther had six children which appa rently he left under the care of relatives during his travelling year s. He was very successful in this ministry and his sister Hannah had refe rred to him as "a travelling preacher of great power". In 1808, Robert a nd Sally Sine were married and to-gether started a family of thirteen chi ldren settling down a few years later, probably at his farm in Fredericks burgh. He continued locally with his work as a minister of the Methodi st Church, but in 1818 he and his brother Rev. Daniel left the American b ased Episcopal Methodist Church and started their own denomination whi ch they called "Provincial Methodists". Apparently their group took ov er one of the local Chapels and shared the 4th Line Church building wi th the parent church congregation. He died in 1856 and is buried in the Mo rven cemetery. Custom Field:<_FA#> No children with first wife Anne Rogers
Several reports list 15 children. According to Sally's death notice there were 7 boys and 5 girls. One child died in infancy Hannah, and another died at 24. A picture from Cora Reid shows the Seve n Sons of Robert Perry and they are in their 30's and 40's. It lists John, Barnabas, Simeon, Daniel, Henry, Ebenezer and Peter. Since none of the boys died at 24 that means a daughter died at 21. C ould there be 6 daughters for 13. A list I have lists 13 children including 6 women - Mary, Nancy, Jane, Sally, Ann and Hannah. Since Hannah died young and Mary, Nancy, Jane and Sally married.. An n must have died at 24. So I do not believe there is a Luke, Jane and Mary Jane are the same person, Ann died at 24. See the notes on John F Perry Seems he was married a divorced woman and move d to the US. in 1863 I wonder if the picture was taken at the same time as the one of Robert in the 1850's
An early Methodist minister, Robert had three wives! He had none by the first, six children by the second, and 13 by the third. Obituary in Conference Methodist Episcopal Church 1856 page 31 ____________________________________ Census 1851 Perry, Robert Preacher US 81 M Perry, Sally US 63 W Perry, Henry Farmer CW 36 S Perry, John Labourer CW 25 S Perry, Sally T. CW 23 S Perry, Bidwell, B. Farmer CW 28 M Perry, Catharine CW 24 M Perry, Alfonzo CW 2 S MdConalnd, Matilda 12 Servant ______________________________________
Anecdotes about Rev. Robert Perry
Reference: Case and His Contemporaries on The Canadian Itinerants Memorial, Constituting a Biographical History of Methodism in Canada from its Introduction into the Province, Till the Death of Willia m Case in 1855, by John Carroll, Vol. 1 to 5, 1867. Available at the Douglas Library, Queen's University.
From Volume 1:
Page 18: (1805) "He (William Case) was received on trial with five others, one of whom, Robert Perry, was destined for a time to be an immediate coadjutor; but of him more anon."
Page 34: (1805) "Robert Perry, the last of Case's compeers, was certainly not the least, corporeally at any rate, For he was like all the Perry brothers, of whom there were several, compact, heavy, an d wiry. Certain bluffness of manners corresponded with his looks. We have said hews a Canadian. The Perrys lived in the Bay of Quinte country; were U.E. Loyalists and very respectable. Peter, called b y his opponents ' The Political Bulldog', was long an indefatigable and influential member of the Legislative assembly on the Liberal side; the Hon. Ebenezer Perry,alive at this writing, and a membe r of the Legislative Council, was also brother of Robert. The family early espoused the cause of Methodism,and two other brothers, at least, were preachers in the local ranks -Daniel and David. It mus t not be forgotten that the great, good mother of the Aylesworths was their sister. A son of Daniel is at this present time a local preacher in the Wesleyan Church, a man of intelligence and influence . We have seen Robert was only received on trial in the travelling ministry this year, 1805. They are testing him pretty well in sending him across the fifty-mile woods in the Glengarry country, to th e far off Ottawa. But he is not likely to be easily scared or soon fatigued; and the homily analogies that mark his sermons are likely to make his preaching hearable, and suited to the tastes and want s of the times."
Page 157: "On a moving sermon by Reverend William Snow, Robert Perry could contain no longer, he burst forth with 'Glory to God for Snow in the summer!' "
Page 159: (1808, Yonge Street Circuit, Robert Perry)
Page 169: (1809 -1810, Niagara Circuit, Henry Ryan, Robert Perry)
Page 179: (1810 at Yonge Street Circuit) "Young Reverend John Reynolds had anticipated the presence of the Presiding Elder (Rev. Joseph Sawyer)to lead the Sunday Morning Love Fest and had not prepare d a sermon. But the Elder had not arrived, causing him anxiety. Seeking guidance and just as his eyes rested on the words ' God comforteth those that are cast down, comforted us by the coming of Titus ', a stranger arose, not the Reverend Mr. Sawyer, but a younger, bluff looking man, who uttered the word 'Love' in a clear, surging voice. It is a voice unknown to Mr.Reynolds, but familiar to the peo ple and it sends a thrill of joy among them, while words of similar character follow thick and fast from his lips. It is no other than the fervent Robert Perry, who had labored on the Circuit with gre at acceptability the year before, and who the Presiding Elder had sent to supply his place for that time, among his old friends."
Page 181: (1806, The Niagara Circuit) " The only glimpse we get of honest Robert in this Circuit is the following:- Preaching a sermon, at the 'Fifty Mile Creek', a little too allegorical, which diver ted the less reverential, and offended the taste of the more grave and discerning, frequent mistake of the times; a hired man returning from the meeting tote family with which he lived , and said 'Th e minister preached all about sheep, and all the people laughed, except Hugh Wilson, and he looked as mad!' "
Page 199: (1809, Long Point Circuit, Robert Perry)
Page 247: "Robert Perry's disappearance from the list of Itinerants was a 'location'. It was a pity, but, considering the exigency of the times,perhaps a necessity. He had been married at the early ag e of eighteen,and had some children. But his wife died before his going into the itinerant work, and it is believed he remained single nearly the whole time of his travelling.. It may have been that t he care of his children who perchance could no longer be kept among his relations, obliged him to marry, and with marriage in that day, usually came location. He continued to serve the old connectio n in a local sphere until about 1816, when alas,he identified himself with the 'Reformed Methodists', of whom more anon. When they come into sight we shall have something more to say of good,but narro w-minded Robert Perry."
From Volume 2:
Page 48: Re the Reformed Methodist Secession: "That secession received the adhesion of the two Perrys, Robert and Daniel, and a large proportion of the membership in and around the Chapel, in the 4t h Concession of Ernestown. If we mistake not, the church itself fell into their hands for some years."
Page 101: "As to Canada, the Chapel they took away reverted, in the course of years, to the old connection, and was taken up again as a preaching place, and was refitted and re-opened about the year 1 837, the Rev. Egerton Ryerson preaching a powerful sermon on the principles of Methodism on the occasion, which was published. It now comprises one of the places on the Odessa Circuit, if we mistake n ot."
Page 102: "As to the two Perrys, they hold on, however, to earnest religion, and gradually became more moderate In their views and less hostile in their feelings to the old church. The death beds of b oth, we have been informed, was cheered with the visits, and their funeral sermons preached by Wesleyan Ministers --- Robert's by the Rev. R.Corson, and Daniel's by the Rev. C. R. Allison. Some of th e warmest and active adherents of standard Methodism are to be found among the descendants of David Perry, if not Robert."
From the Journal of William Case, April 1808 to August 1809, published in the Hay Bay Guardian, Vol. 7.
Page 10: On Monday morning 8 Aug I set out from J. Detlors in company with br. & sist. Perry, for Bay Quinte C (camp) meeting. We travelled on from place to place thro a dreary wood most of the wa y for a 100 miles, when we parted, he for the north side & I the south side of the Bay. (Note from Paper : Robert Perry and Sally Sine were married in 1808 and they took the north shore route probably to visit the Sine family who lived near Belleville.)
Page 15: In March visited br. Perrys Crt & attended his Qr. M. &found much faith and great consolation in preaching to the people, who were much moved, & some professed to have found the blesse d Savior. These people seemed like Christians, loving, humble, faithful. Br. P. seems worn down by intense labor and sating colds. A faithful, holy man, a laborious & successful Minister, loved by th e serious, hated by the impenitent. His labor this year has been greatly blessed, the crt. has doubled its number and the work is still going forward. _____________________
From the Journal of William Case, April 1808 to August 1809, published in the Hay Bay Guardian, Vol. 7.
Page 10: "On Monday morning 8 Aug I set out from J. Detlors in company with br. & sist. Perry, for Bay Quinty C (camp) meeting. We travelled on from place to place thro a dreary wood most of th e way for a 100 miles, when we parted, he for the north side & I the south side of the Bay. (Note from Paper : Robert Perry and Sally Sine were married in 1808 and they took the north shore route p robably to visit the Sine family who lived near Belleville.)
Page 15: "In March visited br. Perry's Crt & attended his Qr. M. & found much faith and great consolation in preaching to the people, who were much moved, & some professed to have found the bles sed Savior. These people seemed like Christians, loving, humble, faithful. Br. P. seems worn down by intense labor and sating colds. A faithful, holy man, a laborious & successful Minister, loved b y the serious, hated by the impenitent. His labor this year has been greatly blessed, the crt. has doubled its number and the work is still going forward. __________________
International Genealogical Index Film 1903821 gives Robert's birthdate as 20 December 1772 "of Ernestown". Film 1760733 gives his birthdate as 1773 "of Bristol, MA".
Many of the details abou t descendants of Rev. Robert Perry have been taken from the Brandt Zatterbergh U.E. Genealogy Report on the Perry family and from the Russ Waller U.E. book "Lennox & Addington County Loyalists Fami lies - M to Y". On October 24, 1793, Robert Perry Jr. and Esther Aylesworth were married in the recently built St John's Anglican Church at Ernest Town (now Bath, Ontario). During the period that t hey were married he received a free grant of lot 27, Concession IV of Fredericksburgh on which it is he probably started to clear for farming. The 1878 Historical Atlas shows that location to be ow ned, at that time, by his son Bidwell Banabus Perry. 1803 was a tragic year for Robert and the Aylesworth family, as Esther, her parents and two of her brothers died. Records do not show what was th e cause of Esther's death, but the others had been stricken by "spotted fever", a form of meningitis. In the following years Robert became a member of the Episcopal Methodist Church and in 1805 star ted a 6 year stint as a circuit rider preacher. He and Esther had six children which apparently he left under the care of relatives during his travelling years. He was very successful in this minis try and his sister Hannah had referred to him as "a travelling preacher of great power". In 1808, Robert and Sally Sine were married and to-gether started a family of thirteen children settling dow n a few years later, probably at his farm in Fredericksburgh. He continued locally with his work as a minister of the Methodist Church, but in 1818 he and his brother Rev. Daniel left the America n based Episcopal Methodist Church and started their own denomination which they called "Provincial Methodists". Apparently their group took over one of the local Chapels and shared the 4th Line C hurch building with the parent church congregation. He died in 1856 and is buried in the Morven cemetery.
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Rev Robert Perry died 27 May 1856 aged 83 yearas 5 months and 8 days
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Reverend Robert Perry, Jr.'s Timeline
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December 12, 1772
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Rutland, VT, United States
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1789 |
February 1, 1789
Age 16
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Ernestown Twp., Lennox & Addington Co., Ontario, Canada
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October 26, 1794
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Ernestown, ON, Canada
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Ernestown, ON, Canada
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Ernestown, ON, Canada
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Ernestown, ON, Canada
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Ernestown, ON, Canada
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1802
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Ernestown, ON, Canada
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