Sir Robert ll de Ogle

Sir Robert Ogle's marriage to Joan by 1331,[3] brought half of Hepple under the control of the Ogles.[3] The rest would be acquired during the War of the Roses.[3]

'Robert OGLE (2° B. Ogle)

• 'Born: ABT 1306/1315, Ogle, Northumberland, England
• 'Died: 16 Jun 1362, Northam, Northumberland, England
• Father: Robert OGLE (1° B. Ogle)
• Mother: Margaret GUBIUM
• 'Married 1: Joan HEPPLE ABT 1326 / BEF 10 May 1331
• Children:
  • 1. Robert OGLE (B. Bothal)
• 'Married 2: Annabella TERWHITE (b. ABT 1319) (dau. of Gilbert Terwhite) ABT 1331
• Children:
  • 2. Thomas OGLE (b. 1352 - d. 1366)
  • 3. Joan OGLE
• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/OGLE.htm#Robert OGLE (2° B. Ogle)1
• _________
• 'Sir Robert Ogle1
• 'M, d. after 1362
• Father Sir Robert de Ogle d. c 1350
• Mother Margaret Gobion
• ' Sir Robert Ogle was born at of Ogle, Northumberland, England. He married Joan Hepple, daughter of Sir Robert Hepple. Sir Robert Ogle died after 1362.
• 'Family Joan Hepple
• Child
  • ◦Robert Ogle+ d. 1362
• Citations
• 1.[S6958] Unknown author, Wallop Family, p. 598.
• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p746.htm#i...
• _________
• 'Robert de Ogle1
• 'M, #403283, b. 1315, d. 16 June 1362
• Last Edited=10 Oct 2009
• ' Robert de Ogle was born in 1315.1 He married Joan Hepple, daughter of Robert Hepple and Cecily Chartney.1 He died on 16 June 1362.1
• ' He was the son of Roger de Ogle and Margaret Gubicom.1
• 'Child of Robert de Ogle and Joan Hepple
  • 1.Robert de Ogle+1 b. 1328
• Citations
• 1.[S1916] Tim Boyle, "re: Boyle Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 16 September 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Boyle Family."
• http://www.thepeerage.com/p40329.htm#i403283
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In 1341 May 11, Robert de Oggle (Sir Robert Ogle) was granted, by Edward III, (In year 15 of his reign) a Royal licence to crenellate Oggle (Ogle Castle)

The wording of this licence is;

"Grant, of special grace and for good service rendered in the march of Scotland, to Robert de Oggle, king's yeoman, and his heirs of free warren in all their demense lands of Oggle, Aldensheles, Rouley, Shilvyngton, Heselrigg, Folbiry, Thrasterton and Hurtheworth; licence also to the said Robert to fortify his manse of Oggle (mansum suum de Oggle) with a wall of stone and mortar and crenellate it and so hold it of the king and his heirs without let or hindrance of them or any their ministers."

Granted at Westminster, by privy seal.

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Sir Robert Ogle was granted a licence to crenellate in 1341, with free warren of his demense land, for good service rendered in the march of Scotland.

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Original source is

Calendar of Charter Rolls Vol5 p4

(In fact, the original source given is usually a transcription/translation of what are precious medieval documents not readily availably. It should be noted that these transcription/translations often date to the nineteenth or early twentieth centuries and that unwitting bias of transcribers may affect the translation. Care should also be taken to avoid giving modern meaning to the medieval use of certain stock words and terms.)

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Significant later source are;

Emery, Anthony, 1996, Greater Medieval Houses Vol1 (Cambridge) p159

King, D.J.C., 1983, Castellarium Anglicanum (London: Kraus) Vol2 p371n240

Bates, C.J., 1891, Border Holds of Northumberland (London and Newcastle: Andrew Reid) p9

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More details about licences to crenellate can be found here.

Please

http://homepage.mac.com/philipdavis/LOC/13410511.html

for more information English Licences to Crenellate

some analysis

"The Gatehouse"

Ogle was an interesting man. He fought the Scots during the first and second wars of Scottish independence.[1] Wallis (1769), tells us that he was at the Battle of Stanhope Park (03–04 Aug 1327) with Edward III ... and fought again at the Battle of Neville's Cross on the 17th of October 1346.[1][1][3] If so, he was probably born much earlier than the proposed date of his parent's marriage by Ogle (1902)... unless Wallis (1769), confused grandfather and son, which seems likely where the Battle of Stanhope Park is concerned.

In any event, Robert's own son and heir died prematurely, leaving his grandson to succeed him in the 36th year of Edward III (c.1363).[1][2] Givens-Wilson (2002), explains that Ogle actually lost two sons when the Scots took Berwick.

In any case, his wife outlived them all, and had at least three husbands. After Robert died, "Eleanor," Baroness of Bothall, went on to marry John of Hatfield.[1] ... Her last husband was David of Holgrave.[2]