Thomas Pasmere "Cornplanter" Carpenter, (fictitious person)

• do not confuse with Thomas Passmore
• there is no evidence supporting him as a parent of a Cherokee person (chieftain or otherwise)
• Carpenter Cousins http://carpentercousins.com has DNA Studies and are a One Name Guild. They cannot find anyone who could be this person.

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Son: Thomas md Sarah Sadie

Media Files: Rev Ezell Carpenter of West Point, MS and Circle of 127 Matches to this non fictitious person.

Plantation Name. In the community of the Piqua Shawnee and Meherrin Iroquois families.

William Carpenter and Robertia Pond - passengers on boat of Pounds would be potential people to look at further; which would maybe explain some of the genetic matches to the Pounds/Pond indenture family descendants of Lawrence Plantation and the Carpenters from London.

Avatar- from Ancestry DNA, brick wall is one generation back on the father's side, not a Carpenter of the 2 Groups of Carpenters, but an actual person with 127 people in Ancestry matching.

Piqua Shawnee, not Don Greene's tribe. Professional Biome in Source Tab. Wife according to Ancestry Dna - Odom Meherrin wife.

Tithable Thomas Pasmere Carpenter Avatar is from this https://sites.google.com/site/mynativericanancestors/

Presenting the full biome of the adjacent family in professional dna studies. Here are the result that are in part from Ancestry DNA and in part replicated by 25 Team Eventing on 7/12/18 running Matrix and there is one circle for this man when discounting for endogamy in the Pasmere Circle SNP 18 3034M the other is the Pounds/Pasmere/Brito Circle is 12 😁110M.

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Please read the following three-part article titled "The Passmore Chronicles" by Susan Reynolds

published on her blog Indian Reservations by Jeanie Roberts. They disprove Carpenter's existence (he has apparently been "created" by someone who misread records of Thomas Passmore, a carpenter in Jamestown, Virginia colony, who later acquired land in Maryland). This man (Passmore) had no life among the Cherokee and could not have been the father of any Cherokee offspring.

Part I http://www.indianreservations.net/2016/07/the-passmore-chronicles-p...

Part II http://www.indianreservations.net/2016/07/the-passmore-chronicles-p...

Part III http://www.indianreservations.net/2016/07/the-passmore-chronicles-p...

Therefore, this profile is being detached from any Cherokee offspring and labeled as "Fictitious".

Pam Wilson, Curator, 26 March 2018

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Thomas Pasmere Carpenter called Cornplanter was born in 1607 in Plymouth, Devonshire, England and died in 1675 in Running Water Village, Tennessee. He was buried in The Great Mound, Nikwasi, Franklin, North Carolina.

Parents:

Married:

1. betw 1634-1635 in Stinking River, Shawnee Nation, Virginia British colony to Pride Shawnee (b 1615 in Shawnee Nation, VA and died 1679 in Running Water Village , Tennessee).

Children:

1. Trader Carpenter born betw 1635-1640. As an adult, he was named Amatoya Moytoy This claim is likely false
2. Pasmere Carpenter

Notes

Twenty year old Thomas Pasmere Carpenter came to Jamestown, Virginia from England in 1627, living in a cave near the Shawnee. Thomas was called "Cornplanter" by the Shawnee, derived from their sign language that matched as near as possible to the work of a carpenter. He married a Shawnee woman named "Pride" and bore a son between 1635-1640 named Trader Carpenter, who as an adult, was named Amatoya Moytoy.

Thomas Pasmere Carpenter .... was descended from the noble Anglo-Norman family of Vicomte Guillaume de Melun le Carpentier. Thus, Moytoy's European lineage can be traced to the Frankish Duke Ansegisel of Metz Meroving, Peppin II, and Charles Martel. This ancestry also makes the Cherokee Moytoys cousins to the Carpenter Earl of Tyrconnell, and thus related to the current British royal family.

The Carpenter family of Devonshire & Plymouth England were small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. Documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the Carpenter family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease. The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. He made another trip in March 1659 departing Charleston South Carolina aboard the Barbados Merchant, returning on the Concord in August 1659.

Events

• 1607 birth, Plymouth Devonshire England
• child birth, ♂ Moytoy I Chota (of Tainesi (Cherokee)) [Moytoy]
• 1627 immigration, Jamestown, Virginia
• 1628 census, Virginia Early Census: 1628, Jamestown, Virginia
• 1635 other, Shipping Trade Info: Fur
• 1675 death, Running Water Village, Tennessee
• 1675 burial, The Great Mound, Nikwasi, Franklin, North Carolina

Links

• http://thejamesscrolls.blogspot.com/2009/03/indian-trail-from-amato...
• http://mornstarz.blogspot.com/
• http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Thomas_Carpenter_%2830%29

Sources

1. Immigration: 1627, Jamestown, Virginia. Name: THOMAS CARPENTER : -- Source Publication Code: 275 Annotation: Comprehensive listing of early immigrants, in various arrangements to assist the researcher. Pages 1-189 contain passenger lists; pages 193-295 are indexes. Source Bibliography: BANKS, CHARLES EDWARD. Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England, 1620-1650. Edited, indexed and published by Elijah Ellsworth Brownell. Philadelphia: Bertram Press, 1937. 295p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1957. Repr. 1987.
2. Virginia Census: 1628, Jamestown, Virginia. THOMAS CARPENTER State: VA County: Virginia Colony Township: Virginia Year: 1607
3. Virginia Land Lease: 20 Sep 1628, James City County, Virginia. Title Marshall, Robert : 10 acres within the island of James City adjoing the land of Mary Bayly, THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER. Source: Land Office Patents No. 1, 1623-1643 (v.1 & 2), p. 92 (Reel 1). Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. ; Publication 20 September 1628.Subject - Personal Marshall, Robert. grantee. Bayly, Mary CARPENTER, THOMAS PASMERE.
4. Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office। The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia.

• The "lease" granted to THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER was abandoned when Carpenter went to live with the Indians mid 1628. The lease was then passed to Robert Marshall 20 September 1628. Source of Documentation . Jamestown Records, Virginia Archives, Virginia Land Grants.

1. Fur Trade - Shipping Info: 1635. The CARPENTER family of Devonshire & Plymouth England was small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. We have documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the CARPENTER family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. We have also proved THOMAS PASMERE, TRADER, and TRADER TOM CARPENTER made regular trips to Barbados, and on occasion to Glasglow, and Dublin aboard these ships. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease.
2. The first documented trip made by THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. He made another trip in March 1659 departing Charleston South Carolina aboard the Barbados Merchant, returning on the Concord in August 1659.

We have not validated these four ships were owned by the CARPENTER family. Ownership of the following ships documented as being owned by the CARPENTER family of Devonshire & Plymouth England:

Dorcas 75 tonnes 1665-1671--- Flying Eagle 120 tonnes 1670-1677 --- Delight 100 tonnes 1678-1682--- Jonas Frigate 80 tonnes 1681-1686--- Tonqueen 130 tonnes 1681-94--- Emerald 103 tonnes 1685-1692--- Pearl 80 tonnes 1685-1694--- Mocha Frigate 150 tonnes 1694-1706--- Sedgwick 100 tonnes 1696-1711--- Advice Frigate 130 tonnes 1700-1702--- Success 180 tonnes 1710-1716--- Arabia Merchant 140 tonnes 1701-1708--- Hester 250 tonnes 1710-1715--- Indian Frigate 130 tonnes 1705-1721--- Goodfellow 140 tonnes 1720-1727---

1. Chronology: 1674, Running Water Village, Tennessee. Chronology: Tennessee, Running Water Village. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER was an early immigrant to Jamestown Virginia, and was awarded a 10-acre lease in Jamestown City County early 1628. By 20 September 1628, he had abandoned the lease when it was re-granted to Robert Marshall. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER was then 21 years old. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER had left Jamestown to live with the Indians, and married a Shawnee woman by 1630 at age 23. He had one son who survived ...
2. TRADER CARPENTER b. 1635, who along with his wife and father's family was driven out of the Virginia area to an area further south by the Iroquois 1660. The Cherokee allowed one group of Shawnee to locate in South Carolina to act as a buffer between the Cherokee and Catawba. At this precise time the Cherokee were known to have at least 63 independent "towns." The Carpenter group were told by the Cherokee leaders they could move deeper into the Cumberland Basin of Tennessee where the Shawnee settled and began building villages.
4. The first village built by THOMAS and TRADER CARPENTER was Running Water ... The erudite CARPENTERS were master traders and soon had a thriving business trading with all Natives without any problems, they were respected and trusted members of local tribal societies. They regularly transported furs to the Natural Shallow ports located at rivers ending in the Gulf of Mexico in Alabama and Georgia for export, in return providing much needed supplies to the Natives. They had established banking connections in Barbados, and in London.
6. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER died at Running Water Village about 1675, and had two children that we know about, TRADER CARPENTER, and PASMERE CARPENTER. PASMERE married the grandfather of CORNSTALK HOKOLESQUA (Shawnee) about 1660. CORNSTALK'S father, AKULUSSKA married Shawnee Woman about 1681. TRADER CARPENTER had several sons and daughters, but we have not been able to document but one, a son by name TRADER TOM CARPENTER b. about 1660.
7. 5। 1. MOYTOY I (TRADER) CARPENTER SEE BELOW

• 5. 2. PASMERE CARPENTER b 1637 in Shawnee Nation, Virgina. d 1696 in Shawnee Nation, Pennsylvania. md HOKOLESQUA Shawnee-Metis in 1662 in Running River Village. b 1630 in Shawnee Nation, Virgina. d 1681 in Shawnee Nation

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Immigrated 1627 to Jamestown; on 1628 Census

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Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) Click to view Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) in the family tree View timeline for this person's branch of the family tree

Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) was born in 1607. Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy)'s father was Robert CONFLICT Carpenter and his mother was Susan Pasmere Passmore Jeffery. His paternal grandparents were William Carpenter and Abigail; his maternal grandparents are John Jeffery and Joan Pasmere (Passmore??). He was an only child. He died at the age of 68 in 1675 in Running Water Village.

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Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) Click to view Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) in the family tree View timeline for this person's branch of the family tree Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) was born in 1607. Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy)'s father was Robert CONFLICT Carpenter and his mother was Susan Pasmere Passmore Jeffery. His paternal grandparents were William Carpenter and Abigail; his maternal grandparents are John Jeffery and Joan Pasmere (Passmore??). He was an only child. He died at the age of 68 in 1675 in Running Water Village.

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Trader Thomas "Corn Planter" Carpenter, {Fictional}

• THOMAS PASMERE was well educated, but did not want to participate in the family business for other brothers and sisters were heavily involved. When but twenty years old, THOMAS departed Plymouth England bound for the lands across the sea, arriving in Jamestown Virginia late 1627. Because of his age, THOMAS could not apply for a land grant. THOMAS found a small, unoccupied cave a short distance from Jamestown. He brought many supplies with him unknowing the future, and what it would bring. He managed to live throughout the winter in the relative comfort afforded inside the naturally insulated home. By trial and error he learned many different trapping methods that first winter, and managed to process a moderate number of valuable furs. By 1630 THOMAS had taken to wife, PRIDE, a Shawnee woman about eight years younger. To their union two children were born that survived, a son named TRADER, and a daughter named PASMERE

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In any genealogy there are many sources that if listed would produce more data than the tree itself and many would likely be left out. I normally do not list sources. There are a few sources though that are so invaluable that they dare no be omitted. For example, all of my information as it applies to the Native Americans in my genealogy are the product of my Son, Jonathan R. Rex. In genealogy sources there is very little to no information about the people who first lived in this land. Finding this data is a challenge worthy of his efforts. I list these names only that they should be remembered and those from whom they descended should be able to know. For you though it might be only the start as there is far more to know and it is after all your heritage. In time without any doubt Jonathan will publish his work in detail and that will be a thing to see. Keep an eye out for him and his writing. You will not be disappointed.

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Thomas Pasmere Carpenter called Cornplanter was born in 1607 in Plymouth, Devonshire, England and died in 1675 in Running Water Village, Tennessee. He was buried in The Great Mound, Nikwasi, Franklin, North Carolina.

Parents:

Married:

betw 1634-1635 in Stinking River, Shawnee Nation, Virginia British colony to Pride Shawnee (b 1615 in Shawnee Nation, VA and died 1679 in Running Water Village , Tennessee). Children:

Trader Carpenter born betw 1635-1640. As an adult, he was named Amatoya Moytoy. Pasmere Carpenter Notes

Twenty year old Thomas Pasmere Carpenter came to Jamestown, Virginia from England in 1627, living in a cave near the Shawnee. Thomas was called "Cornplanter" by the Shawnee, derived from their sign language that matched as near as possible to the work of a carpenter. He married a Shawnee woman named "Pride" and bore a son between 1635-1640 named Trader Carpenter, who as an adult, was named Amatoya Moytoy.

Thomas Pasmere Carpenter .... was descended from the noble Anglo-Norman family of Vicomte Guillaume de Melun le Carpentier. Thus, Moytoy's European lineage can be traced to the Frankish Duke Ansegisel of Metz Meroving, Peppin II, and Charles Martel. This ancestry also makes the Cherokee Moytoys cousins to the Carpenter Earl of Tyrconnell, and thus related to the current British royal family.

The Carpenter family of Devonshire & Plymouth England were small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. Documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the Carpenter family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease. The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. He made another trip in March 1659 departing Charleston South Carolina aboard the Barbados Merchant, returning on the Concord in August 1659.

Events

1607 birth, Plymouth Devonshire England child birth, ♂ Moytoy I Chota (of Tainesi (Cherokee)) [Moytoy] 1627 immigration, Jamestown, Virginia 1628 census, Virginia Early Census: 1628, Jamestown, Virginia 1635 other, Shipping Trade Info: Fur 1675 death, Running Water Village, Tennessee 1675 burial, The Great Mound, Nikwasi, Franklin, North Carolina Links

http://thejamesscrolls.blogspot.com/2009/03/indian-trail-from-amato... http://mornstarz.blogspot.com/ http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Thomas_Carpenter_%2830%29 Sources

Immigration: 1627, Jamestown, Virginia. Name: THOMAS CARPENTER : -- Source Publication Code: 275 Annotation: Comprehensive listing of early immigrants, in various arrangements to assist the researcher. Pages 1-189 contain passenger lists; pages 193-295 are indexes. Source Bibliography: BANKS, CHARLES EDWARD. Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England, 1620-1650. Edited, indexed and published by Elijah Ellsworth Brownell. Philadelphia: Bertram Press, 1937. 295p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1957. Repr. 1987. Virginia Census: 1628, Jamestown, Virginia. THOMAS CARPENTER State: VA County: Virginia Colony Township: Virginia Year: 1607 Virginia Land Lease: 20 Sep 1628, James City County, Virginia. Title Marshall, Robert : 10 acres within the island of James City adjoing the land of Mary Bayly, THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER. Source: Land Office Patents No. 1, 1623-1643 (v.1 & 2), p. 92 (Reel 1). Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. ; Publication 20 September 1628.Subject - Personal Marshall, Robert. grantee. Bayly, Mary CARPENTER, THOMAS PASMERE. Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office। The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia. The "lease" granted to THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER was abandoned when Carpenter went to live with the Indians mid 1628. The lease was then passed to Robert Marshall 20 September 1628. Source of Documentation . Jamestown Records, Virginia Archives, Virginia Land Grants. Fur Trade - Shipping Info: 1635. The CARPENTER family of Devonshire & Plymouth England was small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. We have documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the CARPENTER family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. We have also proved THOMAS PASMERE, TRADER, and TRADER TOM CARPENTER made regular trips to Barbados, and on occasion to Glasglow, and Dublin aboard these ships. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease. The first documented trip made by THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. He made another trip in March 1659 departing Charleston South Carolina aboard the Barbados Merchant, returning on the Concord in August 1659. We have not validated these four ships were owned by the CARPENTER family. Ownership of the following ships documented as being owned by the CARPENTER family of Devonshire & Plymouth England:

Dorcas 75 tonnes 1665-1671--- Flying Eagle 120 tonnes 1670-1677 --- Delight 100 tonnes 1678-1682--- Jonas Frigate 80 tonnes 1681-1686--- Tonqueen 130 tonnes 1681-94--- Emerald 103 tonnes 1685-1692--- Pearl 80 tonnes 1685-1694--- Mocha Frigate 150 tonnes 1694-1706--- Sedgwick 100 tonnes 1696-1711--- Advice Frigate 130 tonnes 1700-1702--- Success 180 tonnes 1710-1716--- Arabia Merchant 140 tonnes 1701-1708--- Hester 250 tonnes 1710-1715--- Indian Frigate 130 tonnes 1705-1721--- Goodfellow 140 tonnes 1720-1727---

Chronology: 1674, Running Water Village, Tennessee. Chronology: Tennessee, Running Water Village. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER was an early immigrant to Jamestown Virginia, and was awarded a 10-acre lease in Jamestown City County early 1628. By 20 September 1628, he had abandoned the lease when it was re-granted to Robert Marshall. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER was then 21 years old. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER had left Jamestown to live with the Indians, and married a Shawnee woman by 1630 at age 23. He had one son who survived ... TRADER CARPENTER b. 1635, who along with his wife and father's family was driven out of the Virginia area to an area further south by the Iroquois 1660. The Cherokee allowed one group of Shawnee to locate in South Carolina to act as a buffer between the Cherokee and Catawba. At this precise time the Cherokee were known to have at least 63 independent "towns." The Carpenter group were told by the Cherokee leaders they could move deeper into the Cumberland Basin of Tennessee where the Shawnee settled and began building villages. The first village built by THOMAS and TRADER CARPENTER was Running Water ... The erudite CARPENTERS were master traders and soon had a thriving business trading with all Natives without any problems, they were respected and trusted members of local tribal societies. They regularly transported furs to the Natural Shallow ports located at rivers ending in the Gulf of Mexico in Alabama and Georgia for export, in return providing much needed supplies to the Natives. They had established banking connections in Barbados, and in London. THOMAS PASMERE CARPENTER died at Running Water Village about 1675, and had two children that we know about, TRADER CARPENTER, and PASMERE CARPENTER. PASMERE married the grandfather of CORNSTALK HOKOLESQUA (Shawnee) about 1660. CORNSTALK'S father, AKULUSSKA married Shawnee Woman about 1681. TRADER CARPENTER had several sons and daughters, but we have not been able to document but one, a son by name TRADER TOM CARPENTER b. about 1660. 5। 1. MOYTOY I (TRADER) CARPENTER SEE BELOW 5. 2. PASMERE CARPENTER b 1637 in Shawnee Nation, Virgina. d 1696 in Shawnee Nation, Pennsylvania. md HOKOLESQUA Shawnee-Metis in 1662 in Running River Village. b 1630 in Shawnee Nation, Virgina. d 1681 in Shawnee Nation Immigrated 1627 to Jamestown; on 1628 Census

Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) Click to view Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) in the family tree View timeline for this person's branch of the family tree Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) was born in 1607. Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy)'s father was Robert CONFLICT Carpenter and his mother was Susan Pasmere Passmore Jeffery. His paternal grandparents were William Carpenter and Abigail; his maternal grandparents are John Jeffery and Joan Pasmere (Passmore??). He was an only child. He died at the age of 68 in 1675 in Running Water Village.

Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) Click to view Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) Carpenter (Ancient Planter) in the family tree View timeline for this person's branch of the family tree Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) was born in 1607. Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy)'s father was Robert CONFLICT Carpenter and his mother was Susan Pasmere Passmore Jeffery. His paternal grandparents were William Carpenter and Abigail; his maternal grandparents are John Jeffery and Joan Pasmere (Passmore??). He was an only child. He died at the age of 68 in 1675 in Running Water Village. Thomas Passmere "Corn Planter" Carpenter

• THOMAS PASMERE was well educated, but did not want to participate in the family business for other brothers and sisters were heavily involved. When but twenty years old, THOMAS departed Plymouth England bound for the lands across the sea, arriving in Jamestown Virginia late 1627. Because of his age, THOMAS could not apply for a land grant. THOMAS found a small, unoccupied cave a short distance from Jamestown. He brought many supplies with him unknowing the future, and what it would bring. He managed to live throughout the winter in the relative comfort afforded inside the naturally insulated home. By trial and error he learned many different trapping methods that first winter, and managed to process a moderate number of valuable furs. By 1630 THOMAS had taken to wife, PRIDE, a Shawnee woman about eight years younger. To their union two children were born that survived, a son named TRADER, and a daughter named PASMERE

In any genealogy there are many sources that if listed would produce more data than the tree itself and many would likely be left out. I normally do not list sources. There are a few sources though that are so invaluable that they dare no be omitted. For example, all of my information as it applies to the Native Americans in my genealogy are the product of my Son, Jonathan R. Rex. In genealogy sources there is very little to no information about the people who first lived in this land. Finding this data is a challenge worthy of his efforts. I list these names only that they should be remembered and those from whom they descended should be able to know. For you though it might be only the start as there is far more to know and it is after all your heritage. In time without any doubt Jonathan will publish his work in detail and that will be a thing to see. Keep an eye out for him and his writing. You will not be disappointed.

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Thomas owned many ships which went to England and the South Seas carrying goods some of these were the Hopewell, Crispian, Dacas 75 tons, 1665-1671, Flying Eagle, 120 tons, 1670-1677, Delight 100 tons,1678-1682, Jonas Frigate, 80 tons 1681-1686, Tonqueen, 130 tons,1681-1694, Emerald, 103 tons, 1685-1692, Pearl, 80 tons, 1685-1694,Mocha Frigate 150 tons,1694-1706,Sedgwick,100 tons, 1696-1711, Advice Frigate, 130 tons, 1700-1702, Success, 180 tons, 1710-1716, Arabia Merchant, 140 tons, 1701-1708, Hester, 250 tons, 1710-1715,Indian Frigate, 130 tons, 1705-1721, Goodfellow, 140 tons,1720-1727

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Not a known son of Robert Carpenter, of Plymouth .. or the notes (below) are confused

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Thomas Pasmere Carpenter at 20 years old came to Jamestown, Virginia from England in 1627. Thomas was the son of Robert Carpenter (1578 - 1651) and Susan Pasmere Jeffery (1579 - 1651). He had a ten acre lease in Virginia, but it was later given to someone else because of his age, so he went to live with the Shawnee and made his home in a cave. Thomas was called "Cornplanter" by the Shawnee, derived from their sign language that matched as near as possible to the work of a carpenter. He married a Shawnee woman named "Pride" and bore a son around 1635 named Trader Carpenter, and a daughter Pasmere Carpenter, about 1637. Together with partners John Greenwood and Thomas Watts they began a thriving fur business. Trader was taught to witch'b4'b4 for water with a willow stick by the Shawnee. He was later known by the Cherokee as the "water conjurer" or Ama Matai (Ama is Cherokee for water). Ama Matai eventually became pronounced as Amatoya. It was also shortened to Moytoy'b4'b4, so he is known as Moytoy I. The clan grew quickly. Trader (Amatoya / Moytoy I) married a Shawnee named Locha in 1658. Pasmere married the grandfather of Cornstalk Hokolesqua (Shawnee) in 1660. The same year the clan was driven south by the Iroquois. They moved along the Tennessee river, starting the villages of Running Water (where Thomas died in 1675), Nickajack, Lookout Mountain, Crowtown and Chota. Chota was created as a merging place of refuge for people of all tribes, history or color. It became similar to a capital for the Cherokee nation. These villages grew to about 2000 people by 1670 when the Carpenter clan moved to Great Tellico. Here Trader (Amatoya / Motoy I) married Quatsy of the Wolf Clan in 1680. They bore a daughter Nancy in 1683. Though Amatoya (Trader) was chief of the above mentioned villages, it was his son Moytoy II (sometimes called "Trader-Tom") who was the one who actually became a Cherokee principle chief. In 1730, Trader-Tom (Moytoy II) took over as Chief, receiving what was described as the Crown of Tannassy'b4'b4. Tanasi was where the previous Chief resided and the traditional headdress was passed on to him. Several tribes, including the Cherokee, assisted colonists in driving out their mutual enemy, the Tuscarora, in a war that lasted from 1711-1713. However, with the Tuscarora out of the way, the tribes begin to address their grievances with the colonists -- primarily the sale of Native Americans into slavery despite agreements to discontinue this practice. The result was a war, in 1715, in which the combined tribes in the region threatened to wipe-out the South Carolina Colony. Ultimately, the colonists were able to mass their forces and after achieving several victories the tribes began to sue for peace. Peace was made with the Cherokee who were given a large quantity of guns and ammunition in exchange for their alliance with the colony. In 1721, a treaty was signed with South Carolina. It also established a fixed boundary between the Cherokee and the colony. Although allied with the English, the Cherokee began to favor the French who had established Fort Toulouse near present Montgomery AL. The French showed greater respect for the Indians than the British who considered them an inferior race. To prevent a Cherokee alliance with the French, Sir Alexander Cuming visited the prominent Cherokee towns and convinced the Cherokee to select an "emperor", Chief Moytoy of Tellico, to represent the tribe in all dealings with the British. In addition, he escorted seven Cherokees to England who met with the King and swore allegiance to the crown. A treaty was signed obligating the Cherokee to trade only with the British, return all runaway slaves, and to expel all non-English whites from their territory. In return, the Cherokee received a substantial amount of guns, ammunition, and red paint. Although the seven Cherokee who made the trip were presented the to the king as "chiefs", only one could be considered a prominent Cherokee -- the others being young men who went for the adventure. The chiefs of the tribe declined due to their responsibilities for hunting and defense. However, one of the young men was Attacullakulla, known as "Little Carpenter", who later became a powerful and influential According to Chief Attakullakulla's ceremonial speech to the Cherokee Nation in 1750, we traveled here from "the rising sun" before the time of the stone age man. Amatoya's grandson (through daughter Nancy and an Algonquin named White Owl Raven who had been adopted by Trader-Tom ) was Attacullaculla, known as the "little carpenter" because of the Carpenter family name. Attacullaculla and several brothers traveled to London in 1730 with Sir Alexander Cumming to meet King George II. The fur trading Carpenter family owned many ships. Thomas made several trips to Barbados over the years where they did banking, and even to Scotland and Ireland. On occasion he took Trader, and Trader Tom with him. This line is descended from Vicomte Guillaume de Melun le Carpentier, and that links them to the British royal family. Source: Cherokee Heritage Documentation Center http://cherokeeregistry.firstlightonline.org/index.php?option=com_cont ent&task=view&id=168&Itemid=242

'b0 THOMAS was well educated, but did not want to participate in the family business for other brothers and sisters were heavily involved. When but twenty years old, THOMAS departed Plymouth England bound for the lands across the sea, arriving in Jamestown Virginia late 1627. Because of his age, THOMAS could not apply for a land grant. THOMAS found a small, unoccupied cave a short distance from Jamestown. He brought many supplies with him unknowing the future, and what it would bring. He managed to live throughout the winter in the relative comfort afforded inside the naturally insulated home. By trial and error he learned many different trapping methods that first winter, and managed to process a moderate number of valuable furs. By 1630 THOMAS had taken to wife, PRIDE, a Shawnee woman about eight years younger. To their union two children were born that survived, a son named TRADER, and a daughter named PASMERE.

1. 'b0 Immigration: 1627, Jamestown, Virginia. Name: THOMAS CARPENTER : -- Source Publication Code: 275 Annotation: Comprehensive listing of early immigrants, in various arrangements to assist the researcher. Pages 1-189 contain passenger lists; pages 193-295 are indexes. Source Bibliography: BANKS, CHARLES EDWARD. Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England, 1620-1650. Edited, indexed and published by Elijah Ellsworth Brownell. Philadelphia: Bertram Press, 1937. 295p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1957. Repr. 1987 +++++++++++++++++++++ Cuming's Journal, republished in Williams, Early Travels in the Tennessee Country, Watauga Press, 1928. The name Moytoy means, in Cherokee, Amo-Adaw-ehi, Water Conjuror, or Rainmaker.

The Native Americans did not have a suitable word for Carpenter, but they associated the motion of hammering and sawing through hand sign language as slashing trees and brush in preparation for planting. By that, the first name applied to Thomas Pasmere Carpenter by his newfound friends was Corn Planter.

Thomas knowing to be successful required knowledge, knowledge of the type that would perpetuate among family members; thereby, each child was taught how to read and write English as well as cipher. The practice continued through the first four generations from his immigration. Thomas taught his wife Pride, who in turn insured that future children in the family would also be able to communicate. She instilled in Pasmere and Trader a sense of responsibility, which continued. Pasmere taught her husband, Hokolesqua, and their children. It is because of the families' ability to read and write English, and cipher, they could negotiate and forge solid treaties, and trade profitably without taking unfair advantage of trusting people. Follows is a list of Carpenter family descendents able to speak and write English, and cipher. Thomas Pasmere Carpenter, wife Pride, son Trader and daughter Pasmere Trader Carpenter, wife Locha, and son Trader Tom Carpenter Trader Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, White Owl Raven, Savannah Tom, and Quatsis '85 adopted children, brothers Old Hop and Raven of Hiwassee, Elder and Younger Sister, and Moytoy V. Savannah Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, daughters Susan and Elizabeth, sons Great Eagle and Corn Tassel, and adopted son Attakullakulla. White Owl Raven, wife Nancy, Killaneca, Killaqua, All Bones, Bushyhead, daughters, Betsy, Tame Doe, and Oosta, and adopted son Amoyah Pigeon. Moytoy V, wife, children, son Bad Water, daughters, Ahneewakee, Ounaconoa, and Tame Deer, adopted son, John Watts I. Richard Barnes, wife, daughter Mary Barnes. Pasmere Carpenter, Hokolesqua, Okowellos, and his son Cornstalk The above records are included in the diary kept by Trader Tom Carpenter, which was located in England by a family member, Cuming's Journal, republished in Williams, Early Travels in the Tennessee Country, Watauga Press, 1928. The name Moytoy means, in Cherokee, Amo-Adaw-ehi, Water Conjuror, or Rainmaker.

The Native Americans did not have a suitable word for Carpenter, but they associated the motion of hammering and sawing through hand sign language as slashing trees and brush in preparation for planting. By that, the first name applied to Thomas Pasmere Carpenter by his newfound friends was Corn Planter.

Thomas knowing to be successful required knowledge, knowledge of the type that would perpetuate among family members; thereby, each child was taught how to read and write English as well as cipher. The practice continued through the first four generations from his immigration. Thomas taught his wife Pride, who in turn insured that future children in the family would also be able to communicate. She instilled in Pasmere and Trader a sense of responsibility, which continued. Pasmere taught her husband, Hokolesqua, and their children. It is because of the families' ability to read and write English, and cipher, they could negotiate and forge solid treaties, and trade profitably without taking unfair advantage of trusting people. Follows is a list of Carpenter family descendents able to speak and write English, and cipher. Thomas Pasmere Carpenter, wife Pride, son Trader and daughter Pasmere Trader Carpenter, wife Locha, and son Trader Tom Carpenter Trader Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, White Owl Raven, Savannah Tom, and Quatsis '85 adopted children, brothers Old Hop and Raven of Hiwassee, Elder and Younger Sister, and Moytoy V. Savannah Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, daughters Susan and Elizabeth, sons Great Eagle and Corn Tassel, and adopted son Attakullakulla. White Owl Raven, wife Nancy, Killaneca, Killaqua, All Bones, Bushyhead, daughters, Betsy, Tame Doe, and Oosta, and adopted son Amoyah Pigeon. Moytoy V, wife, children, son Bad Water, daughters, Ahneewakee, Ounaconoa, and Tame Deer, adopted son, John Watts I. Richard Barnes, wife, daughter Mary Barnes. Pasmere Carpenter, Hokolesqua, Okowellos, and his son Cornstalk The above records are included in the diary kept by Trader Tom Carpenter, which was located in England by a family member, http://www.kyusa.addr.com/Cherokee/index.html

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Thomas Pasmere Carpenter at 20 years old came to Jamestown, Virginia from England in 1627. Thomas was the son of Robert Carpenter (1578 - 1651) and Susan Pasmere Jeffery (1579 - 1651). He had a ten acre lease in Virginia, but it was later given to someone else because of his age, so he went to live with the Shawnee and made his home in a cave. Thomas was called "Cornplanter" by the Shawnee, derived from their sign language that matched as near as possible to the work of a carpenter. He married a Shawnee woman named "Pride" and bore a son around 1635 named Trader Carpenter, and a daughter Pasmere Carpenter, about 1637. Together with partners John Greenwood and Thomas Watts they began a thriving fur business. Trader was taught to witch'b4'b4 for water with a willow stick by the Shawnee. He was later known by the Cherokee as the "water conjurer" or Ama Matai (Ama is Cherokee for water). Ama Matai eventually became pronounced as Amatoya. It was also shortened to Moytoy'b4'b4, so he is known as Moytoy I. The clan grew quickly. Trader (Amatoya / Moytoy I) married a Shawnee named Locha in 1658. Pasmere married the grandfather of Cornstalk Hokolesqua (Shawnee) in 1660. The same year the clan was driven south by the Iroquois. They moved along the Tennessee river, starting the villages of Running Water (where Thomas died in 1675), Nickajack, Lookout Mountain, Crowtown and Chota. Chota was created as a merging place of refuge for people of all tribes, history or color. It became similar to a capital for the Cherokee nation. These villages grew to about 2000 people by 1670 when the Carpenter clan moved to Great Tellico. Here Trader (Amatoya / Motoy I) married Quatsy of the Wolf Clan in 1680. They bore a daughter Nancy in 1683. Though Amatoya (Trader) was chief of the above mentioned villages, it was his son Moytoy II (sometimes called "Trader-Tom") who was the one who actually became a Cherokee principle chief. In 1730, Trader-Tom (Moytoy II) took over as Chief, receiving what was described as the Crown of Tannassy'b4'b4. Tanasi was where the previous Chief resided and the traditional headdress was passed on to him. Several tribes, including the Cherokee, assisted colonists in driving out their mutual enemy, the Tuscarora, in a war that lasted from 1711-1713. However, with the Tuscarora out of the way, the tribes begin to address their grievances with the colonists -- primarily the sale of Native Americans into slavery despite agreements to discontinue this practice. The result was a war, in 1715, in which the combined tribes in the region threatened to wipe-out the South Carolina Colony. Ultimately, the colonists were able to mass their forces and after achieving several victories the tribes began to sue for peace. Peace was made with the Cherokee who were given a large quantity of guns and ammunition in exchange for their alliance with the colony. In 1721, a treaty was signed with South Carolina. It also established a fixed boundary between the Cherokee and the colony. Although allied with the English, the Cherokee began to favor the French who had established Fort Toulouse near present Montgomery AL. The French showed greater respect for the Indians than the British who considered them an inferior race. To prevent a Cherokee alliance with the French, Sir Alexander Cuming visited the prominent Cherokee towns and convinced the Cherokee to select an "emperor", Chief Moytoy of Tellico, to represent the tribe in all dealings with the British. In addition, he escorted seven Cherokees to England who met with the King and swore allegiance to the crown. A treaty was signed obligating the Cherokee to trade only with the British, return all runaway slaves, and to expel all non-English whites from their territory. In return, the Cherokee received a substantial amount of guns, ammunition, and red paint. Although the seven Cherokee who made the trip were presented the to the king as "chiefs", only one could be considered a prominent Cherokee -- the others being young men who went for the adventure. The chiefs of the tribe declined due to their responsibilities for hunting and defense. However, one of the young men was Attacullakulla, known as "Little Carpenter", who later became a powerful and influential According to Chief Attakullakulla's ceremonial speech to the Cherokee Nation in 1750, we traveled here from "the rising sun" before the time of the stone age man. Amatoya's grandson (through daughter Nancy and an Algonquin named White Owl Raven who had been adopted by Trader-Tom ) was Attacullaculla, known as the "little carpenter" because of the Carpenter family name. Attacullaculla and several brothers traveled to London in 1730 with Sir Alexander Cumming to meet King George II. The fur trading Carpenter family owned many ships. Thomas made several trips to Barbados over the years where they did banking, and even to Scotland and Ireland. On occasion he took Trader, and Trader Tom with him. This line is descended from Vicomte Guillaume de Melun le Carpentier, and that links them to the British royal family. Source: Cherokee Heritage Documentation Center http://cherokeeregistry.firstlightonline.org/index.php?option=com_cont ent&task=view&id=168&Itemid=242

'b0 THOMAS was well educated, but did not want to participate in the family business for other brothers and sisters were heavily involved. When but twenty years old, THOMAS departed Plymouth England bound for the lands across the sea, arriving in Jamestown Virginia late 1627. Because of his age, THOMAS could not apply for a land grant. THOMAS found a small, unoccupied cave a short distance from Jamestown. He brought many supplies with him unknowing the future, and what it would bring. He managed to live throughout the winter in the relative comfort afforded inside the naturally insulated home. By trial and error he learned many different trapping methods that first winter, and managed to process a moderate number of valuable furs. By 1630 THOMAS had taken to wife, PRIDE, a Shawnee woman about eight years younger. To their union two children were born that survived, a son named TRADER, and a daughter named PASMERE.

1. 'b0 Immigration: 1627, Jamestown, Virginia. Name: THOMAS CARPENTER : -- Source Publication Code: 275 Annotation: Comprehensive listing of early immigrants, in various arrangements to assist the researcher. Pages 1-189 contain passenger lists; pages 193-295 are indexes. Source Bibliography: BANKS, CHARLES EDWARD. Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England, 1620-1650. Edited, indexed and published by Elijah Ellsworth Brownell. Philadelphia: Bertram Press, 1937. 295p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1957. Repr. 1987 +++++++++++++++++++++ Cuming's Journal, republished in Williams, Early Travels in the Tennessee Country, Watauga Press, 1928. The name Moytoy means, in Cherokee, Amo-Adaw-ehi, Water Conjuror, or Rainmaker.

The Native Americans did not have a suitable word for Carpenter, but they associated the motion of hammering and sawing through hand sign language as slashing trees and brush in preparation for planting. By that, the first name applied to Thomas Pasmere Carpenter by his newfound friends was Corn Planter.

Thomas knowing to be successful required knowledge, knowledge of the type that would perpetuate among family members; thereby, each child was taught how to read and write English as well as cipher. The practice continued through the first four generations from his immigration. Thomas taught his wife Pride, who in turn insured that future children in the family would also be able to communicate. She instilled in Pasmere and Trader a sense of responsibility, which continued. Pasmere taught her husband, Hokolesqua, and their children. It is because of the families' ability to read and write English, and cipher, they could negotiate and forge solid treaties, and trade profitably without taking unfair advantage of trusting people. Follows is a list of Carpenter family descendents able to speak and write English, and cipher. Thomas Pasmere Carpenter, wife Pride, son Trader and daughter Pasmere Trader Carpenter, wife Locha, and son Trader Tom Carpenter Trader Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, White Owl Raven, Savannah Tom, and Quatsis '85 adopted children, brothers Old Hop and Raven of Hiwassee, Elder and Younger Sister, and Moytoy V. Savannah Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, daughters Susan and Elizabeth, sons Great Eagle and Corn Tassel, and adopted son Attakullakulla. White Owl Raven, wife Nancy, Killaneca, Killaqua, All Bones, Bushyhead, daughters, Betsy, Tame Doe, and Oosta, and adopted son Amoyah Pigeon. Moytoy V, wife, children, son Bad Water, daughters, Ahneewakee, Ounaconoa, and Tame Deer, adopted son, John Watts I. Richard Barnes, wife, daughter Mary Barnes. Pasmere Carpenter, Hokolesqua, Okowellos, and his son Cornstalk The above records are included in the diary kept by Trader Tom Carpenter, which was located in England by a family member, Cuming's Journal, republished in Williams, Early Travels in the Tennessee Country, Watauga Press, 1928. The name Moytoy means, in Cherokee, Amo-Adaw-ehi, Water Conjuror, or Rainmaker.

The Native Americans did not have a suitable word for Carpenter, but they associated the motion of hammering and sawing through hand sign language as slashing trees and brush in preparation for planting. By that, the first name applied to Thomas Pasmere Carpenter by his newfound friends was Corn Planter.

Thomas knowing to be successful required knowledge, knowledge of the type that would perpetuate among family members; thereby, each child was taught how to read and write English as well as cipher. The practice continued through the first four generations from his immigration. Thomas taught his wife Pride, who in turn insured that future children in the family would also be able to communicate. She instilled in Pasmere and Trader a sense of responsibility, which continued. Pasmere taught her husband, Hokolesqua, and their children. It is because of the families' ability to read and write English, and cipher, they could negotiate and forge solid treaties, and trade profitably without taking unfair advantage of trusting people. Follows is a list of Carpenter family descendents able to speak and write English, and cipher. Thomas Pasmere Carpenter, wife Pride, son Trader and daughter Pasmere Trader Carpenter, wife Locha, and son Trader Tom Carpenter Trader Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, White Owl Raven, Savannah Tom, and Quatsis '85 adopted children, brothers Old Hop and Raven of Hiwassee, Elder and Younger Sister, and Moytoy V. Savannah Tom Carpenter, wife Nancy, daughters Susan and Elizabeth, sons Great Eagle and Corn Tassel, and adopted son Attakullakulla. White Owl Raven, wife Nancy, Killaneca, Killaqua, All Bones, Bushyhead, daughters, Betsy, Tame Doe, and Oosta, and adopted son Amoyah Pigeon. Moytoy V, wife, children, son Bad Water, daughters, Ahneewakee, Ounaconoa, and Tame Deer, adopted son, John Watts I. Richard Barnes, wife, daughter Mary Barnes. Pasmere Carpenter, Hokolesqua, Okowellos, and his son Cornstalk The above records are included in the diary kept by Trader Tom Carpenter, which was located in England by a family member, http://www.kyusa.addr.com/Cherokee/index.html

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Thomas Pasmere Carpenter (Corn Planter) died in 1675. He was born in Plymouth, Devonshire, England. He is buried at the Great Mound in Franklin County, North Carolina. He was The Elder Chief. He was married to Pride Shawnee. He was the father of 21 children.

Thomas Pasmere Carpenter at 20 years old came to Jamestown, Virginia from England in 1627. Thomas was the son of Robert Carpenter (1578 - 1651) and Susan Pasmere Jeffery (1579 - 1651). He had a ten acre lease in Virginia, but it was later given to someone else because of his age, so he went to live with the Shawnee and made his home in a cave. Thomas was called "Cornplanter" by the Shawnee, derived from their sign language that matched as near as possible to the work of a carpenter. He married a Shawnee woman named "Pride"

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Thomas Pasmere Carpenter (Corn Planter) died in 1675. He was born in Plymouth, Devonshire, England.
He is buried at the Great Mound in Franklin County, North Carolina.
He was The Elder Chief. He was married to Pride Shawnee. He was the father of 21 children.