Frances Cocke - Frances Cocke dau of Sir John Fettiplace and John Cock.

hi ANN! looks like we're distant cousins..Jane Hungerford is my 5th great grandmother,,unfortunaley we are waiting for DNA testing on the Hungerford line to determine if the American Hungerfords are decended from the English Hungerfords.....which line do you decend from

The revision history is clear:
May 2, 2012 at 7:58 PM Bridget - Margaret Fettiplace was merged into Frances Cocke by Private User.

Don't ask how it is possible with such a big difference in data...

I've corrected the parents and spouses to conform (again) to the sources noted in the profile overviews and appreciate the attention drawn to the errors.

Valerie - be sure and post about DNA results when known. I have a Hungerford line, arrived Connecticut.

You have to reconstruct the Margaret Fettiplace profile as well, - if not you fixed one tree by destroying another - the children are now without a mother.

I'll look at it in more detail tomorrow unless someone else cares to get there first.

Hello Cousins, Jane Hungerford dau of Sir Anthony is my 9th GGM and her brother John Hungerford is my husband's 9th GGF. Jane, born 1578 Farley Hungerford Castle, Somerset England married Fabyan Farley born 1570 Towthorpe, Yorkshire England. Fabyan Farley's BROTHERS emigrated to AMERICA. Thomas Farley born 1565, George born 1568, and Michael born 1568 are the brothers who went to America.

Thomas FARLEY was one of the earliest immigrants to settle in Virginia, coming to the colony in 1623. He and his wife, Jane MOLYNEUX SEFTON, a lady of some means and position, arrived on the ship Anne, along with their newborn daughter, named Ann in honor of the ship.
They were recorded in the musters (censuses) at Archer's Hope, February 16, 1623 and February 4, 1624.

Hope this connection to America helps you all. Ann Farley

Regarding Lady Jane Molyneux Sefton, out of interest perhaps.
She was the illegitement daughter of the Baron of Sefton. Jane came from a family of ten children. Her family goes back to the royal houses of Europe and includes lots of very interesting historical persons. After the conquest of England by William I, the feudal landholders became responsible for administering justice.

The Sefton, Radclyffe, and Dutton families intermarried and all were sheriffs and members of court.

Thought I ought to mention this as my previous message might mislead. Ann

Well, there are a few people puzzled over Jane. I have this too....
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From: <Dreama0000@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Jane Molyneux Sefton Farley
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:15:49 EST

In a message dated 2/17/99 2:43:17 PM Central Standard Time, simmons@iei.net
writes:
<< Hi all,
Several times in recent weeks I've seen mention of a "mystery" surrounding
Jane Molyneux Sefton Farley. Could somebody clue me in as to what this
mystery is?
George Simmons >>

Good evening,
Guess I'll take this one. The main problem surrounding Jane is her
name. I will attempt to explain simply. The Molyneux family were semi-royalty
in medieval
England. They family seat and manor house, which still exists, was at Sefton,
near Liverpool England. If we take her name as Jane Sefton, it doesn't really
mean anything. It just means she was from that particular place. If we take
her name as
Jane Molyneux, that opens an altogether different can of worms. Our late Mark
Goar had actually spoken to the last Earl of Sefton, and he knew nothing of
Jane. Lorna Davis has been to the Manor in Sefton and also visited the
archives in Liverpool. The parents that were recorded in several sources here
in America, do not co-incide with the actual records. The people who are
reported to be her parents never had a child named Jane. Add that to the fact
that we are unable as of yet to find a marriage document for Thomas Farley
marrying anyone, anywhere. All we know is that he showed up in Virginia on
board the ship Ann on 23 Feb 1623, with his wife Jane and daughter Ann. There
are at least three of us now actively working on this problem, and several
planning a trip to Croxteth Hall in Liverpool. Losing Mark Goar was a great
loss to this project.
The facts are these -
1. either she was just A Jane from Sefton - and no surname was recorded.
2. or she really was Lady Jane Molyneux - but her parents were different than
those
we think they were.
3. or she was previously married - and her husbands name was Molyneux.
4. or she was an illegitimate daughter of the Earl of Sefton. In which case
she would
still be considered Lady Jane Molyneux - it was acceptable in England to
do
that, as mistresses were commonplace. In this case, her birth would not
have
been recorded in the family archives.
But one thing is sure, there are those of us who are breathing this stuff,
wanting to know who she was. I have more records in my files of people before
1600 than after.
I'm beginning to think I was born about 500 years too late. But, we WILL one
day find out, I am confident.
Dreama

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I sure will Erica! as they have to extract DNA from the Graves of the English Hungerfords ,this may take quite some time,,they need to request permission first,,trust me,,Ive been on the edge of my seat *waiting* anybody from the John Hungerford /Deborah Spencer line is safe! He is indeed the biological son of Thomas Hungerford...Anybody from the Deborah Spencer line is safe* she IS the Grand Daughter of Ensign Gerard (Jared) Spencer...I love DNA :) All Trees that go past Thomas Hungerford I need to be on *hold* until the DNA results come in! you can keep an eye on these yourselves by Googling *Hungerford DNA*

www.familytreedna.com/public/spencer/default.aspx?section=results

click on Y-Dna to see results. this is for any of you who would like to know what Haplo Group they are in,or would like to Par take in this research

Oh cool! I googled Hungerford DNA and found:

"The HUNGERFORD family of Maryland has been found to be a DNA match to the Thomas Hungerford line of Connecticut. Thomas Hungerford died about 1663 in New London, CT."

I'm from the CT line. Is there a connection made on Geni to the MD branch?

http://home.netcom.com/~fzsaund/hungerford.html

'we havent determined who the Maryland branch is yet,,Im from the Connecticut branch,,John Hungerford