Uther Pendragon "The Head Dragon" ap Custennyn, King of Britons - This used to be my great grandfather ? and, he used to have '3' wives ?

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7/6/2013 at 4:41 PM

Uther Pendragon, King Arthur's Father, Geoffrey of Monmouth Text

Owen Desposyni, Archdruid & Prince Bard - is at least 2 generations b4 Uther ap Custennyn, The Head Dragon

and, his wife is Vivane D'alqs

i believe the next profile i'll post

has the correct lineage

7/6/2013 at 5:00 PM

DESPOSYNI & DEL ACQS

Viviane~Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon - Camelot - Burgundy

- PENDRAGON - ap Custennyn Lineage

Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons is your 40th great grandfather.

aka
Uther Pendragon "The Head Dragon" ap Custennyn, King of Britons

Uther Pendragon, King Arthur's Father, Geoffrey of Monmouth Text

Place of Burial: Stonehenge, Wiltshire, England
Birth: circa 430
Tintagel Castle, Cornwall, England
Death: circa 496 (66)
Cornwall, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Constantine ap Selyfan, King of Britain and Ivoire ferch Llancelod
Husband of Igerna ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia
Father of Gania de Cornouaille; Elen d'Anaumide; Arthwyr ap Uthyr, High King of Britain; Morgause (Anna); Madog ap Uthyr; Wife of Percival Verch Uther;

Wife of Urien verch Uther; Cador Duke of Cornwall and Anna verch Uthyr
Brother of Constans ap Custennin; Aurelianus Ambrosius and Alda verch ConLINstantine
Added by: Holly Peterson on January 24, 2008
Managed by: Norris Dean Siebert and 30 others
Curated by: Catherine "Erin" Spiceland

lineage:

Susan Lynne Schwenger

You

Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother

Murray Bruce "Muff" Schwenger

your father

JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
her father

is your grandfather

Viola Mae Drury - Handy is your grandmother

Daughter of Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury and Eva 'Effie' Teresa Kopitoski is your great grandfather & grandmother

JAMES HANDY
his father

is your great grandfather

IDA EVA MORTON RUSSELL is your great grandmother

Daughter of ROBERT J RUSSELL is your 2nd great grandfather

Marian Ruthven - Handy
his mother

is your 2nd great grandmother

EDWARD HANDY is your 2nd great grandfather

Son of Charles handy and Mary Gibbons is your 3rd great grandfather & grandmother

Son of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy is your 4th great grandfather - The Greatest Horseman in The World - Circus - Partner of Astley

Son of Anthony Handy and Jane Unknown - Handy is your 5th great grandfather & grandmother

and Mary Huntley - Grant - Handy - Catawba Tribe is your 4th great grandmother (wife of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy)

Daughter of Chief Neil Huntley - Catawba Tribe is your 5th great grandfather

ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
her father

is your 3rd great grandfather

MARION RENNIE - RUTHVEN is your 3rd great grandmother

ROBERT RUTHVEN
his father

is your 4th great grandfather

MARGARET THOMPSON is your 4th great grandmother

JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

is your 5th great grandfather

Margaret Wotherspoon - Weatherspoon - Ruthven is your 5th great grandmother

JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

is your 6th Great Grandfather

MARY HENDERSON is your 6th Great Grandmother

John Ruthven
his father

is your 7th Great Grandfather

Marrion Margaret Peadie-Ruthven is your 7th Great Grandmother

George Ruthven
his father

is your 8th Great Grandfather

Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven is your 8th Great Grandmother

William Alexander Ruthven
his father

is your 9th great grandfather

Isobell Reid - Ruthven is your 9th great grandmother

Daughter of James Reid is your 10th great grandfather

William Ruthven
his father

is your 10th Great Grandfather

Marion Clerk is your 10th Great Grandmother

Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven
his mother

is your 11th Great Grandmother

Sir William Ruthven is your 11th Great Grandfather

Son of William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven and Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun is your 12th Great Grandfather & Grandmother

Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
his mother

is your 12th Great Grandmother
William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven is your 12th great grandfather
Son of William Ruthven, Master of Ruthven and Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven is your 13th great grandfather & grandmother

Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
her father

is your 13th great grandfather
Margaret Douglas is your 13th great grandmother
Daughter of James Morton and Margaret Morton is your 14th great grandmother & grandfather

George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
his father

is your 14th great grandfather

Mariota halyburton is your 14th great grandmother

Sir John Halyburton
his father

is your 15th great grandfather
Janet Halyburton, of Seton is your 15th great grandmother
Daughter of Sir William Seton of Seton and Janet Dunbar, of March is your 16th great grandfather & is your 16th great grandmother

Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
his mother

is your 16th Great Grandmother

Sir Walter Halyburton, Lord Halyburton of Dirleton
is your 16th Great Grandfather
Son of Sir Walter Halyburton of Dirleton and Isabel Stewart, of Albany is your 17th Great Grandfather & Grandmother

Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard aka
Joan/ Johanna Douglas (de Moray), of Strathearn

her mother

is your 17th Great Grandmother
Archibald Douglas "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas is your 17th Great Grandfather
Son of Sir James Douglas of Lothian and ? Douglas is your 18th Great Grandmother & Grandfather

Joan de Menteith
her mother

is your 18th Great Grandmother
Maurice Moray, of Drumsargard, Earl of Strathearn is your 18th Great Grandfather
Son of Sir John Moray of Drumsargard and Mary Moray is your 19th Great Grandfather & Grandmother

Helena of Mar
her mother

is your 19th Great Grandmother

John Menteith of Rusky & Knapdale is your 19th Great Grandfather

Son of Walter Stewart, Earl of Menteith and Mary of Menteith, Countess of Menteith is your 20th Great Grandfather & Grandmother

Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
her father

is your 20th great grandfather

Christian de Seton is your 20th great grandmother
Daughter of Robert de Bruce, 6th Lord of Annandale and Marthok nic Niall, Countess of Carrick is your 21st great grandfather & grandmother

Elen ferch Llywelyn
his mother

is your 21st Great Grandmother

Donald de Mar, 6th Earl of Mar is your 21st Great Grandfather
Son of William de Mar, 5th Earl of Mar and Elizabeth Comyn is your 22nd Great Grandfather & Grandmother

Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
her father

is your 22nd Great Grandfather

Marared verch Madog
his mother

is your 23rd Great Grandmother

Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain is your 23rd Great Grandfather
Son of Owain Fawr ap Gruffydd, King of Gwynedd and Gwladys verch Llywarch is your 24th great grandfather & great grandmother

Madog ap Maredudd
her father

is your 24th great grandfather
Susanna verch Gruffydd is your 24th great grandmother
Daughter of Gruffydd ap Cynan and Angharad verch Owain is your 25th great grandfather & grandmother

Maredudd ap Bleddyn
his father

is your 25th Great Grandfather
Hunydd Einudd

is your 25th Great Grandmother

Daughter of Einudd ap Morien, Lord of Duffryn and Efa (Eva) verch Llywelyn is your 26th Great Grandfather & Great Grandmother

Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
his father

is your 26th Great Grandfather

Haer verch Cyllyn is your 26th Great Grandmother
Daughter of Cynyllyn ap Blaidd, Lord of Gestyn is your 27th Great Grandfather

Angharad verch Maredudd
his mother

is your 27th great grandmother
Cynfyn ap Gwerystan is your 27th great grandfather
Son of Gwerystan ap Gwaethfoed is your 28th great grandfather

Maredudd ap Owain
her father

is your 28th Great Grandfather

Angharad verch Llewellyn
his mother

is your 29th Great Grandmother

Owain ap Hywel is your 29th Great Grandfather

Son of Hywel Dda ap Cadell, King of the Britons and Elen verch Llywarch is your 30th Great Grandfather & Great Grandmother

Llewellyn ap Merfyn
her father

is your 30th great grandfather

Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
his father

is your 31st great grandfather

Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn
his father

is your 32nd great grandfather

Angharad verch Meurig is your 32nd great grandmother

Daughter of Meurig ap Dyfnwallon and Esyllt verch Cynan is your 33rd great grandfather & great grandmother

Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
his father

is your 33rd great grandfather

Nesta verch Cadell is your 33rd great grandmother

Daughter of Cadell ap Brochwel is your 34th great grandfather

Gwriad ap Elidir
his father

is your 34th great grandfather

Esyllt verch Cynan is your 34th great grandmother

Daughter of Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri and Matilda of Flint is your 35th great grandfather & great grandmother

Elidir ap Sandde
his father

is your 35th great grandfather

Sandde ap Alcwn
his father

is your 36th great grandfather

Celeinion verch Tudwal is your 36th great grandmother

Daughter of Tudwal ap Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau is your 37th great grandfather

Alcwn ap Tegid
his father

is your 37th great grandfather

Tegid ap Gwair
his father

is your 38th great grandfather

Anne of Britain is your 38th great grandmother

Morgause (Anna)
his mother

is your 39th great grandmother

Caid ap Dwywg is your 39th great grandfather

Son of Dwywg ap Llywarch Hen is your 40th great grandfather

Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons
her father

is your 40th great grandfather

Igerna ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia is your 40th great grandmother

Daughter of Owen Desposyni, Archdruid & Prince Bard and

Viviane del Acqs, queen of burgundy Lady of the Lake is your 41st great grandfather & great grandmother

7/6/2013 at 5:02 PM

Taliesin, Chief of the Bards

and, you can track the correct lineage down from there

7/6/2013 at 5:05 PM

Igerna, King Arthur's Mother, Geoffrey of Monmouth Text

Igerna de ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia MP
Birth: circa 450
Britain
Death: Caerlaveroc,Solwayfirth,Dumfries-Shire,Scotland
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Owen Desposyni, Archdruid & Prince Bard and Viviane del Acqs, queen of burgundy Lady of the Lake
Wife of Gorlois (Hoel) of Tintagel; Rhica and Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons
Mother of Elaine verch Gwyrlys; Morgana le Fay; Gormant ap Gwyrlys; Gania de Cornouaille; Elen d'Anaumide; Arthwyr ap Uthyr, High King of Britain; Morgause (Anna); Madog ap Uthyr; Wife of Percival Verch Uther; Wife of Urien verch Uther; Cador Duke of Cornwall and Anna verch Uthyr « less
Half sister of Nimue dar of Taliesin; Alboin (Bors); Anna Morcades; Viviane del Acqs, Queen of Avallon and Ygerna del Acqs

This profile is showing - father, as son of her - that isn't right

Private User
7/6/2013 at 5:39 PM

Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons is your 38th great grandfather. :)

Private User
7/6/2013 at 6:16 PM

@Uther ap Custennyn King of Britonns is my 40th great grandfather my lineage is Judy Rice=Arthur Rice my father= Israel Rice Tekarihoken his father=Pierre Atawenrate Rice his father= Ignace Awennaietha Deer Rice his father= Marie Madeleine Kiatawinon Deer Rice his mother=Thomas, aka Atonwa Aronhiowonen her father= Silas Rice his father=Edmund Rice his father=Samuel Rice his father=Thomasine Rice(Frost) his mother=Thomasine Frost(Belgrave)her mother=Joanna Belgrave her mother=Catherine/Johanna Strutt her mother=Sir John Scott,High Sheriff of Kent her father=Sybilla Scott,Heiress of the Barony of Bircholt his mother=Johanna Halsham her mother= Richard Halsham her father=Philppa de Strathbogie his mother=David 1V Strabolgi 13th Earl of Atholl her father= David 111 of Strathbogie Mormaer of Atholl his father=David 11 of Strathbogie Mormaer of Atholl his father=Margaret of Mar,Lady Sutherland(4th) his mother=Elen ferch Llywelyn her mother= Llywelyn ap lorwerth, Prince of Wales her father= Marared verch Madog his mother= Madog ap Maredudd her father= Maredudd ap Bleddyn his father= Bleddyn ap Cynfyn his father=Angharad verch Maredudd his mother= Maredudd ap Owain her father= Angharad verch Liewellyn his mother=Liewellyn ap Merfyn her father=Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr,Brenin Powys his father=Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn his father=Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad his father=Gwriad ap Elidir his father=Elidir ap Sandde his father= Sandde ap Alcwin his father=Alcwn ap Tegid his father=Tegid ap Gwair his father=Morgause(Anna) his mother= Uther ap Custennyn,King of Britons Judy Rice

7/6/2013 at 11:39 PM

Thanks Judy
- i know you are related also to me
on this side of my family
but, also on the other side
- i haven't yet had time to input that info
- but, i do know, that your lineages
are the same as mine in regards to this
someone is playing games
changing things
thank you

7/6/2013 at 11:40 PM

someone also just changed
The Sinclair lineage from Rosslyn too :(

7/7/2013 at 12:23 AM

i discovered something to:

Lion of Judah ???
Pendragon Seal - Tintagel

http://www.thuban.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!zrzor45!-!HSQDQOH...

if this was pressed into wax, it would look like this:

http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/17/17/85/25/pendra10.jpg

PENDRAGON SEAL

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1005128_3926...

Painting, by Neroccio di Bartolomeo de Landi,
is titled St John the Baptist with Madonna and Child and St Mary Magdalene.

Symbology of The Heraldry, The Lion of Judah on the top left side,
and,on the top left side, a bloodline expanding into two from one, a genesis

i thought it might be connected to:

Scottish lion - http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Medieval-Handcrafted-Scotland-Lion-Coat-of-A...

Tintagel -

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TINTAGEL-CASTLE-GRIFFIN-COAT-OF-ARMS-HERALD-...

however; check this out;

Baloil - http://photos.geni.com/p13/97/35/d7/ec/5344483a80eb3ad1/wydo3_mediu...

Wydo Baliol is your 32nd Great Grandfather
Wydo de Bailleul

Wallace
http://photos.geni.com/p13/62/19/15/d3/5344483ace77c0e5/c1ed2ed2880...

http://photos.geni.com/p13/62/19/15/d3/5344483ace77c0e5/c1ed2ed2880...

(remember, its a seal - pressed into wax, so, it would be opposite,
lion is facing left) like on the coat of arms of wallace, baloil, pendragon, ap custennyn, and, tintagel castle

and, also found here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/WallaceLin...

Wallace and Lindsay conjoined coat of arms,
From the 16th century - Craigie Castle.
Craigie Mains Farm, South Ayrshire, Scotland.

(but, it is medieval - so, it likely is PENDRAGON)

7/7/2013 at 12:27 AM

The Medieval Seal of Pendragon - ap Custennyn / Tintagel Castle
~ Baloil - Wallace

http://www.thuban.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!zrzor45!-!HSQDQOH...

is in the private collection of Susan Lynne Schwenger

7/7/2013 at 12:30 AM

there was also a lineage that went back to joses, brother of jesus
-but, i thought that one was crazy
-did anyone ever keep a copy of that lineage ?
(someone changed that one too)

7/7/2013 at 12:31 AM

The three wife comment belongs to
Owen Desposyni, Archdruid & Prince Bard
and Amlawdd D Acqs, Queen of Avalon
is your 41st Great Grandfather & your 41st Great Grandmother
Bors the Elder, Malory Text

Private User
7/7/2013 at 2:20 AM

WOW Susan! That Pendragon/Lion of Judah symbology is very interesting!

Post more stuff like that!! I like to learn to!!

7/7/2013 at 8:29 AM

i'm trying to write a book about it
i have a lot of interesting info
~there is something very symbolic lurking in a lot of pictures
wish i had a 'support group' of some kind
i'm almost computer illiterate

7/7/2013 at 3:59 PM

Alcwn
Alcwn, Sandde ap Alcwn
Alcwn ap Tegid
Alexander Ruthven
Amlawdd of Dumnonia
Amlawdd of Dumnonia, Igerna ferch, Amlawdd of Dumnonia
Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau
Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau, Tudwal ap Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau
Angharad verch Llewellyn
Angharad verch Maredudd
Angharad verch Meurig
Angharad verch Owain
Anna aka Morgause - Daughter of Uther Pendragon "The Head Dragon" ap Custennyn, King of Britons
Annandale
Anne of Britain
Anthony Handy
ap Alcwn
ap Alcwn, Sandde ap Alcwn
ap Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau
ap Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau, Tudwal ap Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau
ap Blaidd
ap Blaidd, Cynyllyn ap Blaidd, Lord of Gestyn
ap Bleddyn
ap Bleddyn , Maredudd
ap Brochwel
ap Brochwel , Cadell ap Brochwel
ap Cadell
ap Cadell, King of the Britons, Hywel Dda ap Cadell, King of the Britons

ap Custennyn
ap Custennyn, Uther - Pendragon "The Head Dragon", King of Britons
ap Cynan
ap Cynan, Gruffydd ap Cynan
ap Cynfyn
ap Cynfyn, Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
ap Dyfnwallon
ap Dyfnwallon, Meurig ap Dyfnwallon
ap Dwywg
ap Dwywg , Caid ap Dwywg
ap Elidir
ap Elidir , Gwriad ap Elidir
ap Gwaethfoed
ap Gwaethfoed , Gwerystan ap Gwaethfoed
ap Gruffydd
ap Gruffydd, Owain Fawr, King of Gwynedd
ap Gwair ap Gwair , Tegid ap Gwair
ap Gwerystan
ap Gwerystan, Cynfyn ap Gwerystan
ap Gwriad
ap Gwriad , Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
ap Hywel
ap Hywel, Owain ap Hywel
ap Llywarch Hen
ap Llywarch Hen, Dwywg ap Llywarch Hen
ap Lorwerth
ap Iorwerth, Llywelyn - Prince of Wales
ap Maredudd
ap Maredudd, Madog ap Maredudd

ap Merfyn
ap Merfyn , Llewellyn ap Merfyn
ap Merfyn , Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn
ap Morien
ap Morien, Lord of Duffryn, Einudd ap Morien, Lord of Duffryn
ap Owain
ap Owain, Iorwerth Drwyndwn
ap Owain, Maredudd ap Owain
ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys , Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
ap Rhodri , Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri
ap Sandde
ap Sandde, Elidir ap Sandde
ap Tegid
ap Tegid , Alcwn ap Tegid
Archibald Douglas "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas
Astley’s Circus – Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy, Partner of Astley’s Circus,
Atholl - Marjorie Stewart - Haliburton aka Halyburton Countess of Atholl
Avalon
Blaidd
Blaidd, Cynyllyn ap Blaidd, Lord of Gestyn
Baliol
Baliol, Wydo
Ben Handy Circus Troupe
Benjamin Handy Circus Troupe
Bleddyn
Bleddyn , Maredudd ap Bleddyn
Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
Bors, King of Gaul
Brenin Ynys Manau, Tudwal ap Anarawd
Britons
Brochwel
Brochwel , Cadell ap Brochwel
Burgundy
Buttergask
Cadell
Cadell, Hywel Dda ap Cadell, King of the Britons
Cadell, Nesta verch Cadell
Cadell ap Brochwel
Caid ap Dwywg
Camelot
Carrick
Catawba Tribe
Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart – Ruthven
Celeinion verch Tudwal
Charles Handy
Chief Neil Huntley, Catawba Tribe
Christian de Seton
Clerk – Ruthven, Marion
Comyn
Comyn, Elizabeth – de Mar
Constantine ap Selyfan, King of Britian
Cornwall
Custennyn
Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri

Cynan
Cynan, Gruffydd ap Cynan
Cynan, Esyllt verch Cynan
Cynfyn
Cynfyn, Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
D’Alqs
D’Alqs, Vivane, Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
de Bruce
de Bruce, Robert, The 6th Lord of Annandale
Del Acq
Del Acq, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Del Acqs
Del Acqs. Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
de Mar
de Mar, Donald – The 6th Earl of Mar
de Mar - Elizabeth Comyn
de Mar, William – The 5th Earl of Mar
de Moray of Strathearn
de Menteith
de Menteith, Joan
De Moray, Joan aka Joanna aka Johanna de Moray of Strathearn - Douglas, Lady of Drumersgard
de Seton
de Seton, Christian
Desposyni
Desposyni, Owen – Archdruid & Prince Bard
Dirletoun Castle
Donald de Mar, 6th Earl of Mar
Douglas
Douglas of Lothian
Douglas, Archibald "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas
Douglas - de Moray, Joan aka Joanna aka Johanna Douglas de Moray of Strathearn, Lady of Drumersgard
Douglas - Halyburton, Margaret
Douglas, Sir James of Lothian
Drumersgard
Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury
Drury
Drury, Dr. George Walker Herbert
Drury-Kopitoski, Eva 'Effie' Teresa
Drury- Handy, Viola Mae
Duffryn
Dunbar of March
Dunbar, Janet of March – Janet of March, Janet of March - Seton of Seton
Dwywg
Dwywg , Caid ap Dwywg
Dwywg ap Llywarch Hen
Dyfnwallon
Dyfnwallon, Meurig ap Dyfnwallon
Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven
Efa (Eva) verch Llywelyn
Eva 'Effie' Teresa Kopitoski- Drury
Edward Handy
Einudd
Einudd, Hunydd Einudd
Einudd ap Morien, Lord of Duffryn
Elen verch Llywarch
Elen ferch Llywelyn
Elidir
Elidir , Gwriad ap Elidir
Elidir ap Sandde
Elizabeth Comyn – de Mar
Esyllt verch Cynan
ferch Amlawdd of Dumnonia
ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia, Igerna ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia
ferch Llancelod
ferch Llanceload, Ivoire
ferch Llywelyn
ferch Llywelyn, Elen
Flint
Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
Gaul
George Halyburton, The 3rd/4th Lord of Dirletoun
George Ruthven
George Walker Herbert Drury, Dr.
Gestyn
Gibbons
Gibbons - Handy, Mary
Grant - Handy, Mary Huntley
Gray of Buttergask
Gray
Gray of Buttergask, Catharine - Stewart - Ruthven
Gray, Mary aka Mary Gray - Seaton – Ruthven
Gruffydd
Gruffydd, Susanna verch Gruffydd
Gruffydd ap Cynan
Gwaethfoed
Gwaethfoed , Gwerystan ap Gwaethfoed
Gwair
Gwair , Tegid ap Gwair
Gwerystan
Gwerystan, Cynfyn ap Gwerystan
Gwladys verch Llywarch
Gwriad
Gwriad , Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
Gwriad ap Elidir
Haer verch Cyllyn
Haliburton
Haliburton, Marjorie Stewart - aka Halyburton Countess of Atholl
Haliburton, Sir Walter aka Lord Halyburton or Haliburton of Dirleton
Halyburton
Halyburton of Seton
Halyburton, George, The 3rd/4th Lord of Dirletoun
Halyburton, Isabel of Albany, Stewart - Halyburton of Dirleton Castle
Halyburton, Marjorie Stewart aka Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
Halyburton – Ruthven, Janet, The 6th Lady of Dirletoun
Halyburton of Seton, Janet
Halyburton, Margaret Douglas –
Halyburton, Mariota
Halyburton, Patrick- The 5th/6th Lord of Dirletoun
Halyburton, Sir John
Halyburton, Sir Walter aka Lord Halyburton or Haliburton of Dirleton Castle
Halyburton , Sir Walter - of Dirleton Castle
Handy, Anthony
Handy, Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy – Partner, Astley’s Circus
Handy, Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy – The Greatest Horseman in The World
Handy, Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy - The Unparalleled Vaulting Horseman
Handy, Charles
Handy Circus Troupe aka Benjamin Handy Circus Troupe aka Ben Handy Circus Troupe
Handy, Edward
Handy, James
Handy, James Edward (jr)
Handy, Jane (UNKNOWN)
Handy, Mary Grant Huntley
Handy – Schwenger, Lynda Mae
Handy Circus Troupe
Helena of Mar
Henderson – Ruthven , Mary
Hunydd Einudd
Huntley, Chief Neil – Catawba Tribe
Huntley – Handy, Mary Grant
Hywel Dda ap Cadell, King of the Britons
Hywel
Hywel, Owain ap Hywel
Hutcheson – Ruthven, Elspeth
Ida Eva Morton Russell
Igerna ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia
Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain
Isabel Stewart of Albany - Halyburton of Dirleton, Isabel
Isobell Reid - Ruthven
James Edward Handy, Jr.
James Morton
James Reid
Janet Halyburton of Seton
Janet Halyburton - Ruthven, 6th Lady Dirletoun
Joan de Menteith
Joan aka Joanna aka Johanna Douglas de Moray of Strathearn, Lady of Drumersgard

John Halyburton, Sir
John Menteith of Rusky & Knapdale
John Ruthven
John Ruthven
John Ruthven
Lake aka D’Alqs aka Del Acq aka Del Acqs
King of Britain
King of Britons
ap Custennyn, Uther - Pendragon "The Head Dragon", King of Britons
Hywel Dda ap Cadell, King of the Britons
King of Gaul
Bors, King of Gaul
King of Gwynedd
Owain Fawr ap Gruffydd, King of Gwynedd
Ivoire ferch Llancelod
Lady of The Lake aka
D’Alqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Del Acqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Viviane Del Acq ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Llancelod
Llewellyn
Llewellyn, Angharad verch Llewellyn
Llewellyn ap Merfyn
Llywarch
Llywarch, Elen verch Llywarch
Llywarch, Gwladys verch Llywarch
Llywarch Hen
Llywarch Hen, Dwywg ap Llywarch Hen
Llywelyn
Llywelyn, Efa (Eva) verch Llywelyn
Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
Lorwerth
ap Iorwerth, Llywelyn - Prince of Wales
Lynda Mae Handy – Schwenger
MacDomhnaill
MacDomhnaill, Gartnait – The 7th Earl of Mar
Madog
Madog, Marared verch
Madog ap Maredudd
Mar
Mar, Helena of
Marared verch Madog
March
March, Janet of Dunbar of March – Janet of March, Janet of March - Seton of Seton
Maredudd
Maredudd, Madog ap
Maredudd , Angharad verch Maredudd
Maredudd ap Bleddyn
Maredudd ap Owain
Margaret Douglas – Halyburton
Margaret Morton
Margaret Thompson – Ruthven
Margaret Weatherspoon - Ruthven
Margaret Wotherspoon – Ruthven
Marian Ruthven - Handy
Marion Clerk - Ruthven
Marion Rennie – Ruthven
Mariota Halyburton
Marjorie Stewart - Haliburton aka Halyburton Countess of Atholl
Marrion Margaret Peadie-Ruthven
Marthok nic Niall, Countess of Carrick
Mary Henderson – Ruthven
Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven
Mary Moray of Drumsargard
Mary Stewart of Menteith, Countess of Menteith
Matilda of Flint
Maurice Moray, of Drumsargard, Earl of Strathearn
Madog ap Maredudd
Menteith
Menteith, John of Rusky & Knapdale
Merfyn
Merfyn, Llewellyn ap Merfyn
Merfyn, Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn
Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
Meurig
Meurig, Angharad verch Meurig
Meurig ap Dyfnwallon
MORAY
Moray, Sir John of Drumsargard
Moray, Mary of Drumsargard
Moray, Maurice of Drumsargard, Earl of Strathearn
Morgause (Anna)
Morien
Morien, Einudd ap Morien, Lord of Duffryn
Morton
Morton, James
Morton, Margaret
Neil Huntley, Chief – Catawba Tribe
Nesta verch Cadell
nic Niall
nic Niall, Marthok, Countess of Carrick Countess of Carrick
Owain
Owain Fawr ap Gruffydd, King of Gwynedd
Owain, Angharad verch
Owain, Maredudd ap Owain
Owain ap Hywel
Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
Peadie-Ruthven, Marrion Margaret
Pendragon aka
Uther ap Custennyn, Pendragon Lineage: "The Head Dragon", King of Britons
Prince of Wales
- Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
Queen of Avalon
D’Alqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Del Acqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Viviane Del Acq ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Queen of Camelot
D’Alqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Del Acqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Viviane Del Acq ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy

Queen of Burgundy
D’Alqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Del Acqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Viviane Del Acq ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Reid, James
Reid – Ruthven, Isobell
Rennie – Ruthven, Marion
Rhodri
Rhodri , Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri
Rhodri , Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri
Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys , Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys , Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
Robert de Bruce, 6th Lord of Annandale
Robert J. Russell
Robert Ruthven
Russell
Russell – Handy, Ida Eva Morton
Ruthven, Isobell Reid –
Ruthven, Janet Halyburton -, The 6th Lady Dirletoun Castle
Ruthven, Marion Clerk –
Ruthven, Mary Gray - Seaton -
Ruthven, Robert
Russell, Robert J.
Ruthven
Ruthven, Alexander
Ruthven, Elspeth Hutcheson
Ruthven, George
Ruthven, John
Ruthven – Handy, Marian
Ruthven, Margaret Thompson
Ruthven, Margaret Weatherspoon
Ruthven, Margaret Wotherspoon
Ruthven, Marion Rennie
Ruthven, Mary Henderson
Ruthven, Marrion Margaret Peadie
Ruthven, Robert
Ruthven, William
Ruthven, Sir William
Ruthven, William Alexander
Ruthven, William,, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
Ruthven, William - Master of Ruthven
Sandde
Sandde, Elidir ap Sandde
Sandde ap Alcwn
Schwenger
Schwenger – Lynda Mae Handy-
Schwenger, Murray Bruce
Schwenger, Susan Lynne
Selyfan, Constantine ap, King of Britain
Seton
Seton of Seton, Janet Dunbar of March -
Seton of Seton, Sir William
Sir James Douglas of Lothian
Sir John Halyburton
Sir John Moray of Drumsargard
Sir William Ruthven
Sir Walter Halyburton, Lord Halyburton of Dirleton
Sir Walter Halyburton of Dirleton
Sir William Seton of Seton
Stewart
Stewart of Albany
Stewart - Halyburton of Dirleton, Isabel of Albany
Stewart, Marjorie - Haliburton aka Halyburton Countess of Atholl
Stewart, Mary of Menteith, Countess of Menteith
Stewart – Ruthven, Catherine Gray of Buttergask –
Stewart, Walter - Earl of Menteith
Stonehenge, Wiltshire, England
Strathearn
Susanna verch Gruffydd
Tegid
Tegid , Alcwn ap Tegid
Tegid ap Gwair
The Greatest Horseman in The World – Benjamin aka Ben Thomas Handy, Partner of Astley’s Circus
The Unparalleled Vaulting Horseman – Benjamin aka Ben Thomas Handy, Partner of Astley’s Circus
The Head Dragon - Uther ap Custennyn, Pendragon Lineage: "The Head Dragon", King of Britons
Thompson – Ruthven , Margaret
Tintagel Castle, Cornwall, England
Tudwal
Tudwal, Celeinion verch Tudwal
Tudwal ap Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau
Unknown – Handy, Jane
Uther Pendragon aka Uther ap Custennyn-Pendragon Lineages: "The Head Dragon", King of Britons
verch Cadell
verch Cadell, Nesta verch Cadell
verch Cyllyn
verch Cyllyn, Haer verch Cyllyn
verch Cynan
Esyllt verch Cynan
verch Gruffydd
verch Gruffydd, Susanna verch Gruffydd
verch Llywarch
verch Llywarch, Elen
verch Llywarch, Gwladys
verch Llewellyn
verch Llewellyn, Angharad verch Llewellyn
verch Llywelyn
verch Llywelyn, Efa (Eva) verch Llywelyn
verch Madog
verch Madog, Marared
verch Maredudd
verch Maredudd , Angharad verch Maredudd
verch Meurig
verch Meurig, Angharad verch Meurig
verch Owain
Angharad verch Owain
verch Tudwal
verch Tudwal, Celeinion verch Tudwal
Viola Mae Handy - Drury
Viviane, Lady of The Lake aka Lake aka
D’Alqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Del Acqs, Vivane ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Viviane Del Acq ~ Lady of The Lake aka Queen of Avalon, Queen of Camelot, Queen of Burgundy
Walter Haliburton, Sir – Lord Halyburton – Haliburton of Direleton Castle
Walter Halyburton, Sir - Lord Halyburton – Haliburton of Dirleton Castle
Walter Halyburton, Sir - of Dirleton Castle
Walter Stewart, Earl of Menteith
Weatherspoon – Ruthven, Margaret
William de Mar, 5th Earl of Mar
William Ruthven
William Alexander Ruthven
William Ruthven, Sir
William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
William Ruthven, Master of Ruthven
William Seton of Seton , Sir
Wotherspoon – Ruthven, Margaret
(under edit)
Property of Susan Lynne Schwenger
Copyright: eXKavier 2002

Private User
7/7/2013 at 8:41 PM

Is this a list of individuals that you have researched for your book?

fictional trees can be fun to play with but how do we tell where the fiction ends and the real world begins (and yes i know that the real world was scripted)?

7/8/2013 at 11:56 AM

Raymond I think curators, particularly those working on "Descent from Antiquity" try to add "caution" notes when the profile is less provable.

7/8/2013 at 11:57 AM

And anyone can add notes in the overview or from a discussion. There have been some excellent discussions, very informative.

7/9/2013 at 8:25 AM

This area on Geni is a mess. The names Owen Desposyni and Viviane del Acqs are red flags that this area has been influenced by the theories of Laurence Gardiner, a modern "alternative historian" who developed a theory about a secret bloodline descended from Jesus, and through him from an ancient line of kings going back to ancient Egypt.

Owen Desposyni is a fictional composite. The name Desposyni should set off alarms. It means someone who belongs to the family of Jesus. It is properly applied to a handful of people in 1st century Judaea. Part of the theory (not unique to Gardiner) is that a historical Owen might have been the same person as the fictional Merlin. Another theory says that Merlin might have been the same person as the historical Taliesin, because one of the later legends about Taliesin is that he was a bard at King Arthur's court.

To make it all work, Gardiner rearranged the traditional Arthurian genealogies and invented the missing generations, including a fantasy Viviane del Acqs.

I agree that we should probably take time to get the Laurence Gardner genealogies on Geni, then get them clearly labeled as fictional and isolated. I do some work in this area from time to time, but it's a major challenge because it involves separating the line claimed by Laurence Gardiner line from the traditional Arthurian genealogies, and separating both of them from modern academic theories about the historical King Arthur, then separating it all from what can really be proven.

Next time we get some of Laurence Gardiner's books at my bookstore I'll haul them home and see if I can spend the few weeks it will take to sort out this part of tree.

7/9/2013 at 7:19 PM

thank you, justin :)
(i'm just trying to make some sense of it all)
and, yes, i agree with you - it definitely is an area of 'red flags'
- and, many changes

The Sinclair lineages are accurate ones
- not sure, why they seem to also have changed

i'll try to go through this later this week

thank you

7/14/2013 at 9:02 AM

Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons is my 41st great grandfather.
You
→ George Anderson Waer
your father → Robert Waer
his father → Benjamin Waer
his father → WILSON Waer
his father → CHARLES Waer
his father → ROBERT Waer
his father → Anne Colver
his mother → Anne Culver
her mother → Stephen Clark, Sr.
her father → Samuel Clark
his father → James Clarke
his father → William Clarke
his father → James Clarke
his father → George Clarke
his father → Elizabeth Clarke
his mother → Sir Henry Ferrers, Kt.
her father → Thomas Ferrers
his father → Philippa Clifford
his mother → Maud de Beauchamp
her mother → Katherine Mortimer, Countess of Warwick
her mother → Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March
her father → Edmund de Mortimer
his father → Roger de Mortimer, 6th Baron of Wigmore
his father → Gwladus verch Llewelyn, Princess of North Wales
his mother → Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
her father → Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain
his father → Owain Fawr ap Gruffydd, King of Gwynedd
his father → Gruffydd ap Cynan
his father → Cynan ap Iago
his father → Iago ap Idwal
his father → Idwal ap Meurig
his father → Meurig ap Idwal, Brenin Gwynedd
his father → Idwal Foel ap Anarawd
his father → Anarawd ap Rhodri Mawr
his father → Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn
his father → Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
his father → Gwriad ap Elidir
his father → Elidir ap Sandde
his father → Sandde ap Alcwn
his father → Alcwn ap Tegid
his father → Tegid ap Gwair
his father → Morgause (Anna)
his mother → Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons
her father

Uther Pendragon "The Head Dragon" ap Custennyn, King of Britons MP
Place of Burial: Stonehenge, Wiltshire, England
Birth: circa 430
Tintagel Castle, Cornwall, England
Death: circa 496 (66)
Cornwall, England
Immediate Family:
Son of Constantine ap Selyfan, King of Britain and Ivoire ferch Llancelod
Husband of Igerna ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia
Father of Gania de Cornouaille; Elen d'Anaumide; Arthwyr ap Uthyr, High King of Britain; Morgause (Anna); Madog ap Uthyr and 4 others
Brother of Constans ap Custennin; Aurelianus Ambrosius and Alda verch Constantine
Added by: Holly Peterson on January 24, 2008
Managed by: Norris Dean Siebert and 30 others
Curated by: Catherine "Erin" Spiceland

8/1/2013 at 3:52 PM

to fix sinclair:
this info; exists
Managers of Henry Sinclair of Roslin, 2nd Lord of Roslin,
I am contacting you about this profile: Henry Sinclair of Roslin
Sincerely,
Susan Lynne Schwenger

This lineage shows correct to this point
Henry Sinclair of Roslin?through=6000000002187978405, as, my 27th great grandfather
however, it doesn't seem to connect properly to
the father & mother ?
NOT sure, how to fix that
- any suggestions ?

Private User
8/1/2013 at 4:32 PM

Henry Sinclair of Roslin, 2nd Lord of Roslin is your 6th great aunt's 20th great grandfather.

8/7/2013 at 11:23 AM

This info connects a lot of interesting people:

Aumale, Bailleul, BALIOL, Baliol of Barnard Castle, Baillie, BALLIOL, Borthwick, Braidfute, BYWELL, CLERK, d'Aumale, de Bailleul, de Baliol, de Balliol, de Borthwick, de Dover, de Fontaines, de Huntington, de Knightley, de Lutegareshale, de MONTGOMERY,

de Picquigny, de Seton, de Strathbogie, DOUGLAS, Dover, DRURY, Fontaines, Galloway, GIBBONS, GRAY, HANDY, Helicourt, Helicourt de Bailleul, HENDERSON, HEPBURN, HOME, HUNTINGTON, HUNTLEY, HUTCHESON, Knightley, KOPITOWSKI, LAUDER, LESLIE, LINDSAY, Lutegareshale, MERCER, MONTGOMERY, OGILVY, PEADIE, Picquingny, REID, RENNIE, ROSSLYN, RUSSELL, RUTHVEN, SCHWENGER, Seton, SINCLAIR, Strathbogie, THOMPSON, WALLACE, Wotherspoon aka Weatherspoon

which includes the Lineages of: SIR WILLIAM 'BRAVEHEART' WALLACE & ROSSLYN

Wydo Baliol is your 32nd great grandfather.

Wydo Baliol is your 32nd Great Grandfather

Wydo de Bailleul
Birth: 986
Baileul-En-Vimeu, Abbeville, Picardy, France
Death: 1015 (29)
Baileul, Abbeville, Picardie, France
Immediate Family:

Father of Guy de Balliol
Added by: James Frederick Pultz on March 29, 2008
Managed by: Robert Renê Lockwood and 6 others

LINEAGE:

Susan Lynne Schwenger

You



Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother

Murray Bruce "Muff" Schwenger

your father



JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
her father

is your grandfather

Viola Mae Drury - Handy is your grandmother

Daughter of Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury and Eva 'Effie' Teresa Kopitoski is your great grandfather & grandmother



JAMES HANDY
his father

is your great grandfather

IDA EVA MORTON RUSSELL is your great grandmother

Daughter of ROBERT J RUSSELL is your 2nd great grandfather



Marian Ruthven - Handy
his mother

is your 2nd great grandmother

EDWARD HANDY is your 2nd great grandfather

Son of Charles handy and Mary Gibbons is your 3rd great grandfather & grandmother

Son of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy is your 4th great grandfather - The Greatest Horseman in The World - Circus - Partner of Astley

Son of Anthony Handy and Jane Unknown - Handy is your 5th great grandfather & grandmother

and Mary Huntley - Grant - Handy - Catawba Tribe is your 4th great grandmother (wife of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy)

Daughter of Chief Neil Huntley - Catawba Tribe is your 5th great grandfather



ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
her father

is your 3rd great grandfather

MARION RENNIE - RUTHVEN is your 3rd great grandmother



ROBERT RUTHVEN
his father

is your 4th great grandfather

MARGARET THOMPSON is your 4th great grandmother



JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

is your 5th great grandfather

Margaret Wotherspoon - Weatherspoon - Ruthven is your 5th great grandmother



JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

is your 6th Great Grandfather

MARY HENDERSON is your 6th Great Grandmother



John Ruthven
his father

is your 7th Great Grandfather

Marrion Margaret Peadie-Ruthven is your 7th Great Grandmother



George Ruthven
his father

is your 8th Great Grandfather

Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven is your 8th Great Grandmother



William Alexander Ruthven
his father

is your 9th great grandfather

Isobell Reid - Ruthven is your 9th great grandmother

Daughter of James Reid is your 10th great grandfather



William Ruthven
his father

is your 10th Great Grandfather

Marion Clerk is your 10th Great Grandmother



Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven
his mother

is your 11th Great Grandmother

Sir William Ruthven is your 11th Great Grandfather

Son of William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven and Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun is your 12th Great Grandfather & Grandmother



Marion Gray
her mother

is your 12th Great Grandmother

Sir Patrick Gray, 4th Lord Gray is your 12th great grandfather

Son of Gilbert Gray, of Buttergask and Egidia Mercer - Gray is your 13th Great Grandfather & Grandmother



Helen Ogilvy (Sinclair), Lady Ogilvy of Airlie
her mother

is your 13th Great Grandmother
James Ogilvy, 4th Lord Ogilvy of Airlie is your 13th great grandfather
Birth: circa 1505
Airlie, Angus, Scotland
Son of James Ogilvy, 3rd Lord Ogilvy of Airlie and Lady Margaret Ogilvy (Lindsay) is your 14th great grandfather



Margaret Sinclair
her mother

is your 14th great grandmother
Henry Sinclair, 3rd Lord Sinclair is your 14th Great Grandfather
Birth: 1459
Caithnessshire, Scotland
Son of Rosslyn - William Sinclair, 2nd lord St. Clair and Lady Christina Leslie is your 15th Great Grandfather + Grandmother

Son of Rosslyn - William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness, 3rd Earl of Orkney and Elizabeth Douglas, is your 16th Great Grandfather + Grandmother



Adam Hepburn, Master of Hailes, Sheriff of Berwick
her father

is your 15th Great Grandfather
Helen Home is your 15th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1437
Home, Berwickshire, Scotland

Daughter of Alexander Home, 1st Lord Home and Marion Lauder



Lady Ellen Wallace - Hepburn
his mother

is your 16th Great Grandmother
Sir Patrick Hepburn of Dunsyre is your 16th Great Grandfather
Birth: circa 1412
Hailes Castle, Prestonkirk, East Lothian, Scotland
Son of Sir Adam Hepburn, Lord Of Hailes and Janet de Borthwick



daughter of Malcolm Wallace, heiress of Elderslie
her mother

is your 17th Great Grandmother
James Wallace, Laird of Elderslie is your 17th Great Grandfather
Birth: circa 1355
Craigie Village near Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Son of John Wallace, of Craigie and Margaret Lindsay, heiress of Craigie



Helen Baillie, of Lamington
her mother

is your 18th Great Grandmother
Malcolm Wallace of Elderslie, Laird of Elderslie is your 18th Great Grandfather
Birth: circa 1335
Elderslie, Paisley Parish, Renfrewshire, Scotland, (Present UK)
Son of Adam Wallace, Laird of Elderslie and Auchinbothie and Lady Adam Wallace of Elderslie and Auchinbothie



William Baillie of Hoprig and Lamington
her father

is your 19th Great Grandfather
Isabella de Seton is your 19th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1330
Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
Daughter of Sir William Seton and Katherine Sinclair



Sir William Baillie of Hoprig, 2nd Laird of Hoprig
his father

is your 20th Great Grandfather
Elizabeth Wallace of Lamington, heiress of Lamington is your 20th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1295
Elderslie, Paisley Parish, Renfrewshire, Scotland, (Present UK)
Managed by: jessie whitmire

Daughter of Sir William "Braveheart" Wallace, Kt. is your 21st Great Grandfather

and Marion Cornellia Wallace (Braidfute) of Lamington is your 21st Great Grandmother



Sir William Baillie of Hoprig, Knight
his father

is your 21st Great Grandfather



Alexander de Baliol of Cavers
his father

is your 22nd Great Grandfather
Isabella de Strathbogie is your 22nd Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1245
Chilham, Kent, , England
Daughter of Richard de Dover, Baron of Chilham and Matilda nic Máel Coluim, Countess of Angus



John de Baliol
his father

is your 23rd Great Grandfather
Devorguilla (Dearbhfhorghaill) of Galloway is your 23rd Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1218
Fotheringhay Castle, Galloway, Wigtownshire, Scotland
Daughter of Alan, Lord of Galloway and Margaret de Huntington



Hugh de Baliol of Barnard Castle aka Hugh Gainford de Bailleul (de Baliol), Lord of Biwell & Hiche
his father

is your 24th Great Grandfather
Cecily de Fontaines is your 24th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1195
Richmond Castle, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Daughter of Aléaume I, seigneur de Fontaines and Laura de Saint-Valéry



Eustace de Baliol aka Eustache Helicourt de Bailleul, seigneur de Bailleul en Vimeu et de Hornoy
his father

is your 25th Great Grandfather
Perronnelle Fitzpiers is your 25 Great Grandmother
Birth: 1168
Shere Farmbridge,,Essex,England
Daughter of Piers de Lutegareshale and Matilda (Maud) NN



Bernard de Balliol, Baron of Bywell of Barnard Castle
his father

is your 26th Great Grandfather
Agnès de Picquigny is your 26th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1148
Piquigny, France
Daughter of Gérard I, Seigneur de Picquigny and Béatrix d'Aumale



Barnard de Balliol aka Bernard (Reginald) de Baliol (de Bailleul), I
his father

is your 27th Great Grandfather
Baroness Maud Bywell is your 27th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1090
Bailleul,Nord,,France



FNU de Bailiol
his father

is your 28th Great Grandfather



Hugh II de Baliol, of Bywell aka Guy de Baliol (de Bailleul)
his father

is your 29th Great Grandfather



Reginald de Balliol , Sheriff of Shropshire aka Rainald (Renard, Reynold, Reginald) de Knightley (de Balliol), Sheriff of Shropshire
his father

is your 30th Great Grandfather
Ameria de Montgomery is your 30th Great Grandmother
Birth: 1045
Montgommery, Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Lower Normandy, France

Reginald de Bailleul, Sheriff of Shropshire

is your 30th Great Grandfather



Guy de Balliol
his father

is your 31st Great Grandfather



Wydo Baliol
his father

is your 32nd great grandfather

Wydo de Bailleul
Wydo Baliol
www.geni.com

8/7/2013 at 11:23 AM

This info connects a lot of interesting people:

Aumale, Bailleul, BALIOL, Baliol of Barnard Castle, Baillie, BALLIOL, Borthwick, Braidfute, BYWELL, CLERK, d'Aumale, de Bailleul, de Baliol, de Balliol, de Borthwick, de Dover, de Fontaines, de Huntington, de Knightley, de Lutegareshale, de MONTGOMERY,

de Picquigny, de Seton, de Strathbogie, DOUGLAS, Dover, DRURY, Fontaines, Galloway, GIBBONS, GRAY, HANDY, Helicourt, Helicourt de Bailleul, HENDERSON, HEPBURN, HOME, HUNTINGTON, HUNTLEY, HUTCHESON, Knightley, KOPITOWSKI, LAUDER, LESLIE, LINDSAY, Lutegareshale, MERCER, MONTGOMERY, OGILVY, PEADIE, Picquingny, REID, RENNIE, ROSSLYN, RUSSELL, RUTHVEN, SCHWENGER, Seton, SINCLAIR, Strathbogie, THOMPSON, WALLACE, Wotherspoon aka Weatherspoon

which includes the Lineages of: SIR WILLIAM 'BRAVEHEART' WALLACE & ROSSLYN

Wydo Baliol is your 32nd great grandfather.

Wydo Baliol is your 32nd Great Grandfather

Wydo de Bailleul
Birth: 986
Baileul-En-Vimeu, Abbeville, Picardy, France
Death: 1015 (29)
Baileul, Abbeville, Picardie, France
Immediate Family:

Father of Guy de Balliol
Added by: James Frederick Pultz on March 29, 2008
Managed by: Robert Renê Lockwood and 6 others

LINEAGE:

Susan Lynne Schwenger

You



Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother

Murray Bruce "Muff" Schwenger

your father



JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
her father

is your grandfather

Viola Mae Drury - Handy is your grandmother

Daughter of Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury and Eva 'Effie' Teresa Kopitoski is your great grandfather & grandmother



JAMES HANDY
his father

is your great grandfather

IDA EVA MORTON RUSSELL is your great grandmother

Daughter of ROBERT J RUSSELL is your 2nd great grandfather



Marian Ruthven - Handy
his mother

is your 2nd great grandmother

EDWARD HANDY is your 2nd great grandfather

Son of Charles handy and Mary Gibbons is your 3rd great grandfather & grandmother

Son of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy is your 4th great grandfather - The Greatest Horseman in The World - Circus - Partner of Astley

Son of Anthony Handy and Jane Unknown - Handy is your 5th great grandfather & grandmother

and Mary Huntley - Grant - Handy - Catawba Tribe is your 4th great grandmother (wife of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy)

Daughter of Chief Neil Huntley - Catawba Tribe is your 5th great grandfather



ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
her father

is your 3rd great grandfather

MARION RENNIE - RUTHVEN is your 3rd great grandmother



ROBERT RUTHVEN
his father

is your 4th great grandfather

MARGARET THOMPSON is your 4th great grandmother



JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

is your 5th great grandfather

Margaret Wotherspoon - Weatherspoon - Ruthven is your 5th great grandmother



JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

is your 6th Great Grandfather

MARY HENDERSON is your 6th Great Grandmother



John Ruthven
his father

is your 7th Great Grandfather

Marrion Margaret Peadie-Ruthven is your 7th Great Grandmother



George Ruthven
his father

is your 8th Great Grandfather

Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven is your 8th Great Grandmother



William Alexander Ruthven
his father

is your 9th great grandfather

Isobell Reid - Ruthven is your 9th great grandmother

Daughter of James Reid is your 10th great grandfather



William Ruthven
his father

is your 10th Great Grandfather

Marion Clerk is your 10th Great Grandmother



Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven
his mother

is your 11th Great Grandmother

Sir William Ruthven is your 11th Great Grandfather

Son of William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven and Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun is your 12th Great Grandfather & Grandmother



Marion Gray
her mother

is your 12th Great Grandmother

Sir Patrick Gray, 4th Lord Gray is your 12th great grandfather

Son of Gilbert Gray, of Buttergask and Egidia Mercer - Gray is your 13th Great Grandfather & Grandmother



Helen Ogilvy (Sinclair), Lady Ogilvy of Airlie
her mother

is your 13th Great Grandmother
James Ogilvy, 4th Lord Ogilvy of Airlie is your 13th great grandfather
Birth: circa 1505
Airlie, Angus, Scotland
Son of James Ogilvy, 3rd Lord Ogilvy of Airlie and Lady Margaret Ogilvy (Lindsay) is your 14th great grandfather



Margaret Sinclair
her mother

is your 14th great grandmother
Henry Sinclair, 3rd Lord Sinclair is your 14th Great Grandfather
Birth: 1459
Caithnessshire, Scotland
Son of Rosslyn - William Sinclair, 2nd lord St. Clair and Lady Christina Leslie is your 15th Great Grandfather + Grandmother

Son of Rosslyn - William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness, 3rd Earl of Orkney and Elizabeth Douglas, is your 16th Great Grandfather + Grandmother



Adam Hepburn, Master of Hailes, Sheriff of Berwick
her father

is your 15th Great Grandfather
Helen Home is your 15th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1437
Home, Berwickshire, Scotland

Daughter of Alexander Home, 1st Lord Home and Marion Lauder



Lady Ellen Wallace - Hepburn
his mother

is your 16th Great Grandmother
Sir Patrick Hepburn of Dunsyre is your 16th Great Grandfather
Birth: circa 1412
Hailes Castle, Prestonkirk, East Lothian, Scotland
Son of Sir Adam Hepburn, Lord Of Hailes and Janet de Borthwick



daughter of Malcolm Wallace, heiress of Elderslie
her mother

is your 17th Great Grandmother
James Wallace, Laird of Elderslie is your 17th Great Grandfather
Birth: circa 1355
Craigie Village near Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Son of John Wallace, of Craigie and Margaret Lindsay, heiress of Craigie



Helen Baillie, of Lamington
her mother

is your 18th Great Grandmother
Malcolm Wallace of Elderslie, Laird of Elderslie is your 18th Great Grandfather
Birth: circa 1335
Elderslie, Paisley Parish, Renfrewshire, Scotland, (Present UK)
Son of Adam Wallace, Laird of Elderslie and Auchinbothie and Lady Adam Wallace of Elderslie and Auchinbothie



William Baillie of Hoprig and Lamington
her father

is your 19th Great Grandfather
Isabella de Seton is your 19th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1330
Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
Daughter of Sir William Seton and Katherine Sinclair



Sir William Baillie of Hoprig, 2nd Laird of Hoprig
his father

is your 20th Great Grandfather
Elizabeth Wallace of Lamington, heiress of Lamington is your 20th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1295
Elderslie, Paisley Parish, Renfrewshire, Scotland, (Present UK)
Managed by: jessie whitmire

Daughter of Sir William "Braveheart" Wallace, Kt. is your 21st Great Grandfather

and Marion Cornellia Wallace (Braidfute) of Lamington is your 21st Great Grandmother



Sir William Baillie of Hoprig, Knight
his father

is your 21st Great Grandfather



Alexander de Baliol of Cavers
his father

is your 22nd Great Grandfather
Isabella de Strathbogie is your 22nd Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1245
Chilham, Kent, , England
Daughter of Richard de Dover, Baron of Chilham and Matilda nic Máel Coluim, Countess of Angus



John de Baliol
his father

is your 23rd Great Grandfather
Devorguilla (Dearbhfhorghaill) of Galloway is your 23rd Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1218
Fotheringhay Castle, Galloway, Wigtownshire, Scotland
Daughter of Alan, Lord of Galloway and Margaret de Huntington



Hugh de Baliol of Barnard Castle aka Hugh Gainford de Bailleul (de Baliol), Lord of Biwell & Hiche
his father

is your 24th Great Grandfather
Cecily de Fontaines is your 24th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1195
Richmond Castle, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Daughter of Aléaume I, seigneur de Fontaines and Laura de Saint-Valéry



Eustace de Baliol aka Eustache Helicourt de Bailleul, seigneur de Bailleul en Vimeu et de Hornoy
his father

is your 25th Great Grandfather
Perronnelle Fitzpiers is your 25 Great Grandmother
Birth: 1168
Shere Farmbridge,,Essex,England
Daughter of Piers de Lutegareshale and Matilda (Maud) NN



Bernard de Balliol, Baron of Bywell of Barnard Castle
his father

is your 26th Great Grandfather
Agnès de Picquigny is your 26th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1148
Piquigny, France
Daughter of Gérard I, Seigneur de Picquigny and Béatrix d'Aumale



Barnard de Balliol aka Bernard (Reginald) de Baliol (de Bailleul), I
his father

is your 27th Great Grandfather
Baroness Maud Bywell is your 27th Great Grandmother
Birth: circa 1090
Bailleul,Nord,,France



FNU de Bailiol
his father

is your 28th Great Grandfather



Hugh II de Baliol, of Bywell aka Guy de Baliol (de Bailleul)
his father

is your 29th Great Grandfather



Reginald de Balliol , Sheriff of Shropshire aka Rainald (Renard, Reynold, Reginald) de Knightley (de Balliol), Sheriff of Shropshire
his father

is your 30th Great Grandfather
Ameria de Montgomery is your 30th Great Grandmother
Birth: 1045
Montgommery, Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Lower Normandy, France

Reginald de Bailleul, Sheriff of Shropshire

is your 30th Great Grandfather



Guy de Balliol
his father

is your 31st Great Grandfather



Wydo Baliol
his father

is your 32nd great grandfather

Wydo de Bailleul
Wydo Baliol
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8/7/2013 at 12:03 PM

looks like this one - Uther Pendragon, King Arthur's Father, Geoffrey of Monmouth Text (has been fixed)
thank you

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