Sheindel Margolios-Stengen נפטרה ב ניסן שפ"ד - Birth Date for Scheindel Margolios-Schtengen

I sourced these dates from geni.com. Would also therefore like calrification from whoever posted them. But the two dates seem compatible.

Hilary, that is fine, I am not dogmatic about the issue, I just didn't want to add a fact that there was not general agreement on. If you think it is accurate I am good with it (of course others may differ).

On another note, there is now a duplicate of their son Eliezer's tree which we will need to merge as well.

hi seth,
when you refer to "their son Eliezer's tree" are you referring to the following:
Eliezer Margaliyot, Rav of Luboml
the above person was merged yesterday. did you find another one?
please list.
i am going to add jan 10, 1575 to sheindel's birthdate as hilary pointed out there is no conflict.
yours,
shlomo

Shlomo,
Yes that was who I was referring to, I don't remember when I saw it yesterday so it might have been done. I will double check tonight.

Seth

Shlomo looks like it was taken care of. There is also a duplicate of Moshe of Tarnograd too - I requested a merge but a delete would work too because it has no descendants in its tree.

So, now are:

Rabbi Yehoudah Yehuda Margaliyot, of Putick

http://www.geni.com/people/Harav-Yehude-Rav-of-Potick-מרגליות/60000...

Duplicates? They appear to be. . .

Hi,
I am related to both in the same way - so it seems to me they are the same Yehudah Potick.

But, when you finish with them, here is another of my relatives, called Yehuda from Patick. I do not know his father's name, but his grandfather was Mordechai or Mendel Margaliot:
Unknown Profile

All the best for the complications,
Bella

Yes, I am too (5th cousin 12 times removed).

So, do we all agree that those two trees need to be merged?

In both profiles he is my fifth cousin 9 times removed. I agree.

i just finished merging the two yehude patik duplicates. phew
yours,
shlomo

It is interesting and one of the annoying features of how geni calculates pathes that Harav Yehude of Potick shows correctly as my 1st cousin 9 times removed straight from paternal lines but if I go to his grandson it calculates a completely different circuitous in-law path through the Schor family with almost three times as many steps in it and a non-blood relationship breaking it up.

I have a similar problem with a much closer relative who is a 2nd cousin 2 times removed which is perfectly evident from the connections on the tree and there should be only about 4 steps to get to her and yet the path shows an in-law relationship with 23 intervening people.

Also, thank you for all of the merges Shlomo! I think you have gotten it all fixed (for now until we find another duplicate tree lurking out there).

Hi everyone,
I noticed you do not know who the wife of Yehuda from Patik was.
Well she is my relative, and belongs to the family of Yechiel Michel Catz from Nemirov, who was killed in the Chmelnitzki killings תח-תט.
All Pros - please check. Here is my Yehuda from Patik profile, once again:
Unknown Profile

Bella

hi bella,
i merged your tree.
yours,
shlomo

hi seth,
appropo your problem with the geni next of kin, i just sent 2 letters to geni.
in the first i complained that my 6th great grandfather's father is listed as
a distant cousin of mine.
they answered some sort of nonsense but also, instead of fixing my 7th great grandfather they messed up so that also my 6th great grandfather is listed as a distant cousin. this was my 2nd letter to them.
yours,
shlomi

Hi Shlomo,
What a delight for the the merge of my tree.
Now I am close to Yehuda from Patik and all the Margaliot family - from all sides.
Thanks so much,
Bella

Shlomo Flam - we can help you with that. There are usually two possible reasons - one there is something wrong (like a merge) with the tree and two (more often) you are getting cached results. You should try starting with your own profile and walking "up" the tree to your 7th great grandfather to see if you can force it to clear the cache and recalculate.

Also, give me a link to your 7th ggf here and I can take a look too and see if I see any reason for this.

Randy Schoenberg and Erica Howton might see something I don't.

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1) This is a good example for me (although the one I cited above is good too. I walked up and down the tree and yet it changes the path from one generation to the next):

Rajca Roza Grossman

is the daughter of my fifth great uncle. The path calculated is not through him but through her husband and is in no way the shortest or most accurate path. I have tried everything to get it to calculate correctly.

Okay, I did a curator "trick" to get it to re-calulate instead of using the cached value:

http://www.geni.com/path/Seth+Lawrence+Morgulas+is+related+to+Rajca...

Check it out yourself now, to make sure.

the following is what i wrote in my second letter to geni:
This is a follow-up to your previous request #57641 "greatgrandfather incorrectl..."
i am sorry to inform you but you made matters WORSE.
instead of having my 7th grandfather corrected, you now eliminated my 6th grandfather.
the following 3 persons should be my 6th, 7th and 8th grandfather:
6th:
Rabbi Moshe Rokeach, ABD Zloczew
7th:
Rabbi Elazar Rokeach, Ma'ase Roke'ach - ABD Rakow, Tarnow, Brody. Amsterdam
8th:
Shmuel Shmelke Tailors Rabbi of Brody
please correct this
thanks in advance

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1)

Perfect:
Rajca Grossman is Seth Lawrence Morgulas' first cousin five times removed!

Seth Morgulas Your issue was entirely the cache issue.

Shlomo Flam hopefully your issue will be an easy clear the cache issue too. I'll take a look.

http://www.geni.com/path/Shlomo+Flam+is+related+to+Harav+Shmuel+Shm...

Your issue was also a cache issue. I checked 4 of your ancestors and by clearing the cache, the direct ancestry relationship was calculated.

Go ahead and check again please.

Hatte, do you know if there is a plan to fix this, as it seems like it is a common glitch that seems to appear after merging trees?

I have not heard of a plan to fix this. Erica Howton may have more insight.

Has the behavior changed recently, or is this the same behavior we have seen for years? I know that I was told that the cache is cleaned every few weeks (I think) and you just have to wait a few weeks or you can "walk" up the tree or "down" the tree and force it to re-calculate the relationship.

This used to be very mysterious and annoying to me when I first joined Geni. d

Seth & Hatte - the same patience waiting for the servers to recalculate is needed. It's much faster & better these days but still needs a little patience, massaging, and tree walking for best results.

for the past 11 days i haven't been able to go to this discussion.
i would get a blank, not responsive page. today, with the help of the microsoft support team i found the solution. the solution is simple: changing my encoder from UTF-8 to WESTERN EUROPEAN (WINDOWS).
my problem with my 6th, 7th and 8th grandfathers is solved although i don't
know who or what solved it.