Joan White (West) - Are those her parents?

Started by Private User on Sunday, October 5, 2014
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Private User
10/5/2014 at 10:18 AM

Have been looking for, and not finding, incontrovertible proof that she is indeed the daughter of Nicholas West, of Burton, and his first wife (here given as Anne Benedict). There is a lot of Wild Mass Guessing http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildMassGuessing that the "Joane West" who was twin to a John West, and child of Nicholas and Anne West, is the same person as the Joane (no last name) who married Robert White. But there's a joker in the deck....

Nicholas White's son by his first wife, Richard West Richard West, married his stepsister Magdaline Staple Maudlin West, daughter of Nicholas West's second wife Philippa and Philippa's first husband. And they had a daughter Joan Joane White who most certainly did marry John White John White , son of Robert White and *his* wife Joane.

That would make John and Joan first cousins with some extra twistiness. They might be working with a small gene pool, but - *that* small?

Private User
10/5/2014 at 12:15 PM

confusing maven. nicholas white & nicholas west. joan, joane west, joan white. & the first cousin issue? point? first cousins are not a problem genetically if they marry. do you have more recent information showing it to be a genetic issue.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mrcear/p227.htm
shows nicholas's parents as john west & mary throckmorton.
leonard west & barbara gascoigne were john's parents. geni has it wrong i think. left out a generation.

Private User
10/5/2014 at 12:21 PM

i have leonard west w/ 7 children. geni has 2.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mrcear/p227.htm

Private User
10/5/2014 at 12:52 PM

Genetically they would be first cousins and no more than that - socially, well, people would be likely to make a fuss about it. (They probably made a fuss about stepchildren marrying each other, too.)

First cousins run a slightly elevated risk of undesirable recessives cropping out - this has never changed. If the basic stock is healthy and not previously inbred, it *may* not be an issue.

If you push it too far, you get horror stories like the late Spanish Hapsburgs, particularly Charles II, who was inbred *beyond* what would be expected from brother-sister incest, and much more as though his parents had been opposite-sex clones (i.e., of the *same person*). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain

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