Margery Alice Corbett - Parents

The Family of Corbett does not seem to mention Margery: https://archive.org/stream/familyofcorbetit02corb#page/n149/mode/2u...

See Chapter XIV on like page 262? Search for "vernon" if that doesn't work correctly and you'll see mention of "Sir Robert married Elizabeth Vernon"

Here is an interesting tree from a David Thaler that has a Margery Corbett that married Philip Hulse....but it has her as the daughter of a Robert of Hateron and Cecelia Fulleshurst

http://www.armidalesoftware.com/issue/full/Thaler_729_main.html#C4

It looks like we do have a Robert Corbett matching that on the tree here as well: Robert of Hatherton Corbet

Interesting...

I attached the Cheshire Visitation which gives Margery as the daughter of Robert of Hatherton. Look at the Sources Tab.

Perhaps Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator can comment since she knows more about the reliability of Visitations than I do.

And it looks like Armidalesoftware (although I was skeptical) agrees with the Cheshire Visitation :)

Here is the will (1513) of Robert Corbett, who married Elizabeth Vernon

http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-17_ff_214-5.pdf

No Margery, Alice, or Hulse mentioned

In my opinion she's improperly attached to a Shropshire family when of course she's of Cheshire.

Here's a rootsweb database that is reliable for the area as start

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jwebe...

Thank you Erica Howton and Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1) for looking!

I noticed the curator notes for Sir Robert Corbet, of Moreton Corbet mention "issue Margery Alice Corbett." Does that need a little updating help avoid confusion?

Yes. Terry Jackson (Switzer) curates that Robert Corbet.

This line needs more work to connect it to "the" Corbet's of Moreton Corbet, but I'm stopping here for now:

Peter Corbet, of Leigh

His mother married a Mallory and I think Private User should take a look at that, there's interesting S.G.M. notes here:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jwebe...

Also there is attached to Peter some documents:

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000021594797114&

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000027543874132&

I want to see if Eyton, the chronicler for Shropshire, has notes for the family.

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1) I'll update the other Robert Corbet for Terry. But check Margery's birth date, there's a conflict. Jim Weber estimates 1524, the ancestral file has 1510. There might be other birth estimates out there also.

Oh and there were more Hulse children, see

http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/corbett/1053/

Margery Corbet m Philip Hulse of Marbury, Cheshire c1490-.... [VIS.CHESH.1580 128-9]; (and had chn: Thomas, John, Philip, Catherine m James Chetwode of Oakley in Mucklestone c 1523-1570 QV, Margaret)

Thanks Erica Howton

Whatever you do, DO NOT trust the Visitations of Shropshire - they are horribly inaccurate and error-riddled (at least prior to parish record-keeping in the 1560s).

I found this out the hard way, trying to sort out Benthalls and Burnells (have Benthalls in my Accomack/Northampton lines). Couldn't be done without recourse to land records, charters, and other *contemporary* (or nearly so) *primary* documents. The Visitations were worse than useless.

Thomas Corbet of Lee/Leigh is highly questionable as a son of Sir Roger Corbet (d. 1396). Not only is that cutting his conception much too close (and note that Sir Roger's wife predeceased him!), there does not seem to be a record of his having been put to fosterage to anyone - and he would have *had* to be fostered if he were an infant son of the late Sir Roger.

High-level politics of the time gives us records of Robert and his younger brother Roger winding up as wards of John Burley, MP (these MPs all seem to stick together). No other Corbets are mentioned in this context. John Burley bought permission to arrange the marriage of Robert Corbet (this is one reason for thinking Margaret was his daughter or possibly niece).

"Margaret", "Margery", and "Marjorie" were at this period frequently used interchangeably (as were "Anne", "Agnes", and even sometimes "Alice"). Just something to keep in mind in regard to Margery Hulse.

Margaret Corbet Mallory's son, Thomas Mallory of Papworth St. Agnes, is the runner-up in the Morte D'Arthur Authorship Sweepstakes. The Burley connection links through by a chain of marriages to the leading contender, Sir Thomas Malory of Newbold Revel.

I'm glad to have someone who knows about certain Visitations and about alternative primary sources. It's hard to do research in this period and geography unless you know what you're doing and I admit that I am not that familiar with the sources. I'll know who to ask questions to in the future!