Richard Banks, Sr. - Evidence for marriage of RIchard Banks Sr to Margaret Bankes d/o John Banks

Started by Terry Jackson (Switzer) on Thursday, April 27, 2017
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4/27/2017 at 8:20 AM

I am wondering if there is any evidence of his marriage to Margaret Banks . Not saying it's impossible that two Banks married but wary that an error may have been made in merging and there's no information on the overviews to support this relationship.

5/4/2017 at 3:35 PM

The outstanding list of data conflicts resulting from a merge here doesn't in my view look good.
https://www.geni.com/merge/resolve/6000000008574047016

Was she from Cheshire or Berkshire?
What was her birth Surname and married surname?
Did she die before 1657 or did she die 1667?
Was she born 1607 or 1610?

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5/4/2017 at 6:34 PM

Maybe this will help:

Immigrant Generation

Richard Hatton1, son of Robert, was baptised at Frodsham, Cheshire, on 17 February 1604/05. He died about 1648. Richard married, ca. 1630, Margaret DOMVILLE, daughter of Edward Domville, of Lymm, and his wife Eleanor LEYCESTER, daughter of Lawrence Leycester, of Chester. Richard's father had been appointed Rector of Lymm in 1611. The manor of Lymm was the traditional seat of his wife's family, the Domvilles. I do not know if Edward was Lord of the Manor or a younger son.

Richard had died by 1649 when his brother Thomas Hatton helped Margaret and her children emigrate to Maryland. Thomas probably met Cecil CALVERT through his friend Thomas MOTHAM, Gent., a clerk in Chancery Lane.[10] Margaret was listed as a widow, sister-in-law of Secretary Thomas Hatton, and in one record is marked as immigrating in 1649, meaning that she came as a free adult, and in another record as being transported, meaning that someone else paid her way. Her children Mary, Elinor, Elizabeth, Barbara, Richard, and William were all listed as being transported.[11]

Margaret (Domville) Hatton married secondly, before 10 April 1653, Richard BANKS. She was listed as the wife of Lt. Richard Banks in 1652.[12] He had arrived in 1646.

Margaret witnessed the will of Thomas KEMP on 19 July 1665.[17] It seems to have been less common for women to witness wills in Maryland than a little later in Quaker Pennsylvania.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~paxson/southern/h...

DEED [to compensate Thomas Hatton for expenses of maintaining sister-in-law and her family], dated 1 Dec. 1652, Maryland: "Whereas Mr. Thomas Hatton as Ldps Secretary of this Province of Maryland having been at Great Charges in the payment of tobaccos for the entertainment of his sister in law and her children, the late wife and children of Mr. Richard Hatton, deceased, brother to the said Thomas Hatton. Since their arrival in this Province and otherwise touching their transportation, We Lieutenant Richard Bankes and Margarett, his wife, late widow and relict of the said Richard Hatton, in consideration that he the said, Thomas Hatton have and does release and acquitt us, the said Richard Bankes and his wife of all debts and demand touching the estate of the said Richard Hatton, do fully and absolutely assign and make over to the said Mr. Thomas Hatton his heirs and assigns forever all right and title of land within this province any wayes due to the said Margarett for the transportation of herself and her children and servant into this province. Witness our hands this first day of December Anno Domini 1652. Signed Richard Bankes and Margarett Bankes. In the presence of Henry Coursey."
1655 Deed of Gift: "Whereas Lt. Richard Banks and Margarett his wife the late Widow and Relict of Mr. Richard hatton, Deceased by thier Conveyance or assignment of the first of Dec. 1652 for the Consideration therein Expressed did assign and make over unto me, Thomas Hatton, Secretary of this Province of Maryland, my Heirs and assigns for ever all right and Title of Land within the said province any ways due to her the said Margarett for the Transportation of herself, her Children and Servants into this province, being 800 acres of Land. Viz: the transportation of herself and William and Richard Hatton, her sons, and Barbara, elizabeth, Mary, and Elinor Hatton her daughters and John Peryn her Servant into this province in or about the year 1649.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jhmjr...

7/13/2017 at 5:31 AM

Thanks for this informaiton I would like to tag Richard Hatton, as she is curator of Richard Hatton? and there are discrepancies between this information and that of the profile....
Don't worry Myrna though, no rush, I realise you are mourning at the moment.

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7/13/2017 at 1:09 PM

Tag Myrna:
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7/14/2017 at 4:47 AM

Thanks Maven - can't think how that happened - I'm sure I put Myrna's id there!

1/23/2018 at 7:38 AM

Going through my merge centre I come once again to this profile. Looking at this makes me think perhaps one of the merges was of two different ladies.
https://www.geni.com/merge/resolve/6000000008574047016

One from Berkshire and one from Cheshire.
What do others think of this?
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1/23/2018 at 12:51 PM

Looks like a Bad-Merge to me. But whotheheck are these ladies?

This (from Wikitree) possibly explains it:
On 28 Oct 2015 at 03:41 GMT Lisa Young wrote:
Banks-787 and Domville-1 do not represent the same person because: Margaret nee Domville Hatton was widowed in England. When she got to Maryland, she married Banks as her second husband. He had a sister, also named Margaret, Margaret Banks. Oddly enough, she married the brother-in-law, Hatton when he became widowed - so there was a Margaret Domville Hatton Banks and a Margaret Banks Hatton. Two different women. Do not know the surname Chamberlayne. Did Margaret Banks Hatton have a 2nd husband?

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4/6/2018 at 9:36 AM

This Margaret who married Richard Hatton, brother of Thomas Hatton who was Secretary of Maryland, was Margaret Domville. She was a Banks by her second marriage to Richard Banks (there is a pedigree of the Domville family in the National Library of Ireland that shows Margaret, m. Richard Hatton, m2. "Bankes, of Maryland".

The mother of Elizabeth Hatton who married Luke Gardiner was Margaret Domville Hatton Banks.

5/9/2018 at 12:59 AM

Terry Jackson (Switzer) I’ve corrected some of the errors around the profile for Margaret Banks and added her parents, if you could update the curator note that would be much appreciated.

Here’s a quick reference link

http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00497977&tree=LEO

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