Robert Ruffin - Need a curator please and thank you

let me try to get neal to help

//Robert Ruffin

this is connected to a ruthven; but; not the right one ???

THE ONLY THING I CAN FIND

RUTHVEN
CHRISTIAN
WILLIAM SPENCE/FR1515 (FR1515)
06/03/1713
693/
50 286
Liberton

SO, this husband - is NOT linked to the right wife

the wife is NOT Christian Ruthven

Why do you think she’s not a sister?

Katherine Ruffin (later Katherine Ruffin Whitehead Thornton Bathe) is thought to have been the sister of William Ruffin:
ISLE OF WIGHT, VA WILL OF KATHERINE RUFFIN WHITEHEAD THORNTON BATHE
October 10th 1687
Arthur Smith age forty nine years ould or thereabout says that about the 22nd of August hast past, being desired to go and see the widdow (Katherine) Bathe that lay sick at the house of Stephen Horsfield her sone in law, I went and Henry Clark and John Watson with me and when the aforesaid widow saw me she seemed to be very glad and tould me that she had a greate desire to make a will to dispose of the little she had and advised me there to take notice of her words and then tould us that all she had she did give to her sone in law Stephen Horsfield and his wife and children; but one wether she would give to her sone Arthur Whitehead. Yo deponant asked her was this that was all she would give her sone, she said yes for she had never bene no help to Stephen Horsfield nor his wife since they was married and had always bene helping her son Arthur Whitehead & tould us there was five cows & two yearling heifers & three ould steer at Arthur Whiteheads of hers that she gave to her son Stephen & there or fower sheepe at Stephens house of hers and what other things that was hers as debt or any household goods she gave it all to her son in law Stephen Horsfield, only the forsaid wether, for he must looke after her as longe as she lives & declaring of it with weeping tiares how unnaturall her said sone Arthur Whitehead was to her. This I can dispose of
Arth. Smith
Henry H. Clark
John E. Watson
The underwritten Henry Clark and John Watson
have sworn to the above said noncupative will in
court held for the Isle of Wight County October
the 11th 1687.
Cert. John Pitt Ct. Cir.
Note: Wether - Old English for castrated ram or male sheep.
Dispose - to bestow of transfer property.
Noncupative Will: A will dictated to others and not written by the person making the will. Could be verbal or written by another person. Many times a deathbed will.
When Katherine declared "with weeping tiares how unnaturall her said sone Arthur Whitehead was to her," she did not mean that he was not her natural child but rather that his treatment of her was not natural. She got her revenge by giving him the most worthless animal there was, a wether (castrated ram), good for only eating grass."

1 record found on scots

RUFFIN
EMILINA
JOHN RUFFIN/CATHERINE DONELLY
F
0/0/1845
27/12/1845
Lennoxtown, St Machan's

the wife attached here is - Christian Ruthven ?

RUFFIN
REBECCA
GEORGE RUFFIN/AGNES REID FR1503 (FR1503)
F
27/12/1818
574/
50 337
Port Glasgow

RUFFIN
LEWIS
-----
40
M
03/06/1807
692/2
310 600
Leith SouthRUFFIN
LEWIS
-----
40
M
03/06/1807
692/2
310 600
Leith South

RUFFIN
LOUIS
MARY STEEL/FR2173 (FR2173)
16/04/1790
685/1
520 63
Edinburgh

your ruffin info maybe correct; but ruffin is NOT Ruthven

(there is some books published,
but; the info is NOT accurate/nor proven
per anne and neal)

RESEARCH I think showed that RUFFiN is English NOT scot

THE CHILDREN are likely accurate
as RUFFIN as father,
but, the RUTHVEN wife is wrong !!!

I should be clearer.

In 1670, William Ruffin assigned [http://www.haywoodcountyline.com/joyner.html 200 acres] on Cypress Swamp, Isle of Wight, Virginia to Mrs. Katherine Thornton with reversion to her two children, Arthur Whitehead and Rebecca Thornton. [Katherine Bathe Katherine Thornton] may have been his sister.

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So we have a case for a brother / sister Ruffin in Virginia. They don’t seem to have been from Scotland.

William Ruffin Family
born: ca 1617 Scotland or England
married: ca 1645
died: 9 Jan 1674 Isle of Wight, VA (intestate - without a will)
CHILDREN:
Robert
William Ruffin listed a passenger on ship Assurance, leaving from Gravesend England on July 24, 1635 at age 18. Master of the ship was Isaac Bromwell.
William Ruffin witnessed the will of Edward Chetwin in Isle of Wight County in 1649, signing his name with the Latinized, Gulielm Ruffin.
Legatees James House, Thomas Attwell, Christopher Holms, John Young, Robert Watson, Henry Pitt, John Inglish, Nicholas Aldred, Mrs. Anne Jones, and all her children; Robert Watson and Henry Pitt, exors. Witnesses: Thomas Brook, and Gulielm. Ruffin.
on May 10, 1658, "Mr. Arthur Skynner and William Andrews, attorney and Henry Moore, for his part and Thomas Turner for himself", made over their right to 900 acres of land to Mr. William Ruffin.
In May 1666, Wiliam Ruffin and Robert Coleman patented 938 acres of land in Isle of Wight County adjacent to Thomas Harris.
In 1666, William Ruffin patented 750 acres of land in Isle of Wight County, VA at ye Cypress Swamp, adjoining Ambrose Bennett. In 1668, William Ruffin sold to Thomas POPE 450 acres out of the 900 acres patented by him and Robert Coleman.
[Cypress Swamp drained into the Pagan River and then to the James River and lay south and west of the two Rivers. Today this is a few miles southwest of the town of Smithfield. This was apparently the land where he lived and this is indicated in his son, Robert's sale of the land in 1677]
On February 7, 1667, Robert giving the authority to represent William in the court suit of Nicholas Brown.
In 1670, William Ruffin assigned 200 acres to Mrs. Katherine Thornton with reversion to her two children, Arthur Whitehead and Rebecca Thornton.
Katherine Thornton may have been his sister.
Court records on March 22, 1674 show Robert requesting the Administration of his father's estate. Securities were Captain William Oldis and Mr. William Body (Boddie). The bond was 90,000 pounds of tobacca, indicating a sizeable estate to be administered.
The Ruffin family may have worshipped at the church on the site of The Old Brick Church (present day St. Luke's Church near the James River bridge. They may also have worshipped at an earlier church Newport Parish which was located on Cypress Swamp.
His wife may have been the daughter of William Jewry. Will below shows inheritance to Robert Ruffin who might have been his grandchild.
Will of William Jewry
(Abstract)
I, William Jewry, of the Isle of Wight County, being very sick and weak, but of perfect mind and memory.
To be buried at the Discretion of my Exeuctor in the Parish Church of the county aforesaid.
After my debts which I justly owe unto any man, being first paid and my funeral expenses satisfied.
Imprimis. I give and bequeath unto ELIZABETH PENNY, the daughter of Richard Penny, of the county aforesaid, One yearling cow calf.
Item. I give an Bequeath into ROBERT RUFFIN, son of William Ruffin of Isle of Wight County af'd, one Heifer of the proper Mark of me the sa' William Jewry. Item. I give and bequeath into John Arran, sone of John Arran of the county af'd a calf, all and singular, the rest of my estate I give and bequeath unto my dear and loving friend ye af'd Jno Arran, for and of this my last will and Testament and do make and ordain him full and sole Executor.
In witness whereof, I, the said William Jewry, renouncing all former wills to this my last will and testament, have set my hand the first of January Anno Domini, 1651.
William X Jewry (Mark)
Signed and deilvered in the presence of us
Richard R. P. Penny, William R Ruffin (W.R.), William Westray
[signed initials as "mark"]

From the Isle of Wight book by Boddie:
pg 535:
Deposition of John Smyth, aged 50 years, said Wm Ruffin covenanted with John Goves to build him a house for 300 lb tbco [tobacco], Ruffin's son to help 20 days, not built so tobc was buried in ground for want of housing.
9 June 1664.

Deposition of Katherine Thornton, aged 30 years, in regard to Jno Grove's house said same.

Transcribed by: Monk Moore (no e-mail address)

ISLE OF WIGHT, VA WILL OF KATHERINE RUFFIN WHITEHEAD THORNTON BATHE

October 10th 1687

Arthur Smith age forty nine years ould or thereabout says that about the
22nd of August hast past, being desired to go and see the widdow
(Katherine) Bathe that lay sick at the house of Stephen Horsfield her
sone in law, I went and Henry Clark and John Watson with me and when the
aforesaid widow saw me she seemed to be very glad and tould me that she
had a greate desire to make a will to dispose of the little she had and
advised me there to take notice of her words and then tould us that all
she had she did give to her sone in law Stephen Horsfield and his wife
and children; but one wether she would give to her sone Arthur
Whitehead. Yo deponant asked her was this that was all she would give
her sone, she said yes for she had never bene no help to Stephen
Horsfield nor his wife since they was married and had always bene
helping her son Arthur Whitehead & tould us there was five cows & two
yearling heifers & three ould steer at Arthur Whiteheads of hers that
she gave to her son Stephen & there or fower sheepe at Stephens house of
hers and what other things that was hers as debt or any household goods
she gave it all to her son in law Stephen Horsfield, only the forsaid
wether, for he must looke after her as longe as she lives & declaring of
it with weeping tiares how unnaturall her said sone Arthur Whitehead was
to her. This I can dispose of
Arth. Smith
Henry H. Clark
John E. Watson
The underwritten Henry Clark and John Watson
have sworn to the above said noncupative will in
court held for the Isle of Wight County October
the 11th 1687.
Cert. John Pitt Ct. Cir.

Note: Wether - Old English for castrated ram or male sheep.

Dispose - to bestow of transfer property.

Noncupative Will: A will dictated to others and not written by the
person making the will. Could be verbal or written by another person.
Many times a deathbed will.

Monk's comments:

"Now we know what Katherine was talking about with the word unnatural.
She was not meaning that he was not a natural child but rather that his
treatment of her was not natural. She got her revenge by giving him the
most worthless animal there was, a wether (castrated ram), good for only
eating grass."

judeandjoe@mindspring.com

Subject: Henry Jefferson Ruffin Vail Gray Applewhite

I think I have finally found the Ruffin-Gray connection to the Applewhite/Applewhaite family and my grandfather. Katherine Ruffin b.1634 m. Arthur Whitehead b.1620 in Lancaster England. Great Grandson Joseph Whitehead b.1716 Halifax Co NC d.17 Feb 1781 m. Phereby Applewhaite b. ABT 1730 Isle of Wight. Their son Joseph Whitehead b.Abt 1781 Halifax Co NC m. Sarah"Sally" Gray b.1788 Halifax Co NC. Sincerely Jude Phillips Smith

Another RUFFIN Page pertaining to this family has been created by Randy Regan. http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jinks/genealogy/ruffinwilliam.htm

and; here clearly you can see
THE FAMILY doesn't show a connection to RUTHVEN

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jinks/genealogy/index.htm

THERE WAS ALSO AN OLD GUY
who did some serious research into it
and, discovered Ruffin in England
but, NOT very much related to Scotland

also; I have the old info on this stored on 3 hard drives
it won't be til September that I can access that
but, it is quite an intensive study done by a ruffin

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=7213&id=I...

There has been much written about the origins of William Ruffin and of his descent from William Ruthven, Earl of Gowie, a Scottish nobleman. While evidence cannot be found to conclusively refute this, neither can evidence be found to confirm it, or give it even circumstantial credence.

S***** L**** Schwenger This agrees with Geni notes & research I did several years ago.

What needs to be changed currently?

Ah - I see now.

William Ruthven of Gardyne & Christian Barclay were entered as parents of Robert Ruffin by Edward Greg Franz on 23 June 2020.

Do you have references for these parents? The Ruffins who came to America were English, apparently, not Scots Ruthvens.

WRONG WIFE - THE RUTHVEN ATTACHED here, is NOT accurate - there is a bunch of other info; that i will detail here; so; we have a record of research in one spot

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=7213&id=I...

also the plantation was NOT Ruthven (until later years, it really was called Rulhven https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/246464/I30118/-/individual

@Christian Barclay wrong wife

and; unknown Ruthven - as father is wrong too

perhaps; that profile should be deleted ???

and; locked - so; it don't get added back to RUTHVEN tree

THE STORY that he is connected to GOWRIE line is false
and; also - i'm sure if you research deeply you will find
the description as him being an alchemist etc., is far fetched too

there is info on ruffin here - NOT yet researched - https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/ruffin/492/

All About Ruthven/Ruffin Family genealogy project
https://www.geni.com/projects/All-About-Ruthven-Ruffin-Family/17126
I've NOT yet checked what is in this post

Sussex Ruffin Origin Theory
Ruthven Origin Theory

Ruffin from Sussex
It is now thought (although not conclusively proven)
that William Ruffin came from England,
possibly Sussex County.

When William arrived in Virginia,
he was an eighteen-year-old commoner
who signed his name with an X.
Map of England
We are grateful to Lucy Ruffin for her diligent efforts in proving either theory.
William was not only illiterate, but if you look at the dates, there is a skipped generation, which everyone who staunchly believes this theory, completely ignores.
We have a christening record of William Ruffine, son of Robert Ruffine (and wife) of Treyford in Sussex County England. It is dated 14 Oct 1618. He had an older brother named Robert, christened 4 Sep 1615.

I have since found the will of Robert Ruffin,
dated 27 Sept 1630.

I will copy Monk's translation below.

Unfortunately, the will does not give the names of his children.

So, I can't be certain that this Robert Ruffin is the father of the William who was christened in Treyford.

The will was written in Midhurst,
which only means he may have moved to Midhurst
sometime before his death and after William was born.

There is a William Ruffyn of Midhurst,
(who may have been Robert's brother)
who's son William Ruffin was christened on 2 Aug. 1618.

This is another of the three Williams found in the IGI
that could have been our William.

Good reason to move to Midhurst. Midhurst and Treyford
are very near each other in West Sussex.

It has always been a question to me, as to,
how William could have paid his passage to America
, since he was not found to be a headright.

My theory: Assuming the christening record
is of our William, he had an older brother named Robert.

And assuming this is the will of William's father,
Robert was a yeoman
(my dictionary defines yeoman as a small landowner,
a servant in a noble household,
an assistant or subordinate as to a sheriff)
and assuming he was a small landowner,
he probably gave his land to his namesake
and oldest son, Robert, who would have been 15
at his death. (Remember Robert(3)
and brother William(3)
who were in very much the same situation
when William left for NC!)

Now this brings us to his ability to pay his passage to America.

He was probably given a monetary inheritance upon reaching age 18. William would have been 13 years when his father died.

Do you see how this theory, with all its assumptions is still no closer to the truth than the Ruthven theory!

I had not intended to send this will of Robert Ruffin
to the Ruffin List until I had some positive link to William,
like "my son in America" written somewhere.

Dreaming again!

So, now, the question is.....what degree of proof do we accept?

I don't know. But what I have found so far in Sussex
gives me the incentive to continue in this direction.

There are Ruffins I

have found in a previous generation who could have been the parents of Robert.

There is still much to go on with what we have.

The names of Robert's friends in the will
may be of help. I will continue.

Will of Robert Ruffin
In the name of God amen Robert Ruffin of Midhurst
in the County of Sussex Yeoman being sicke of body
but of good and perfect minde and memory
did in the presence of William Moorey, John Locke,
Richard Locke, John Chrismas and John Poling
the seaven and twentith day of September
in the year of our Lord God
one thousand six hundred thirty
make and declare this last will and testament
noncupative in manner and forme in effect
as follows
Imprimus; Hee willed and desired John Locke, Richard Locke, John Chrismas and John Poling to be his friends intrust
to sell his goods and to pay his debts
and hee willed that yf any moneys shall remayne
in his friends of trust hands aforesaid after his debts
are paid that all cash moneys should remayne
to his children.

In witness hereof wee the aforesaid
William Moorey, John Locke, Richard Locke,
John Chrismas and John Poling have hereunto
sett our hands the second day of October
Anno Domino one thousand six hundred and thirty.
Monk gives the following note:

I have not changed any spelling or wording.

The only thing I have a question about is the name Poling, but even in the certification it appears to be Poling.

This is a noncuparative will, meaning it was not written by Robert Ruffin, but was dictated to three or more witnesses (as required by law) and then testified in court as to the wishes of the deceased.
Notice that they use "y" as an "i" in two words.

Imprimis means "Let it be printed."

There was also an inventory, which was much harder to read, but Monk says it gives no details of what the disposition of the items was. Another way to look at this..........

we now know that Robert had children,
so we can't rule him out.

Again, if anyone has documents that tell us William Ruffin(1) is a descendant of Lord Ruthven of Scotland, I would really like to see them.

Until then, I will continue to look in Sussex County, England.

For those of you who believe like I do that we must document our sources and fully research all _clues_, there is a very good "letter to the editor" of RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 14.
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:59:58 -0700
From: Barbara Mallyon
Source: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Kent] Researching the RUFFIN family

There is a William RUFFIN married 23 April 1604
Minster Sheppey, name of wife not given. ref IGI

Possibly the son also called William.
William RUFFIN born 1617 Gravesend,
ref IGI When William was 18 years he sailed to America
24 July 1635 on the ship "Assurance"
Master of the ship Isaac BROMWELL,
they sailed from Gravesend.

It appears that William RUFFIN
was the father of all Americans named RUFFIN.

These appear to be my ancestors.

I have got back to my 4 x great grandfather
also a William RUFFIN born approx 1777
married to Ann VINTER 11 May 1799
St. Mary the Virgin Church, Dover.

There is a gap in the IGI from 1617 to 1799 if anyone has any information on the RUFFIN family

I would be very pleased to hear from you.

Names that have married into the RUFFIN family
at St. Mary the Virgin Church, Dover.

Francos Maria married George Edward ANDERSON 24 April 1825
John married Mary BAKER 20 April 1794
John married Ann HOPTON 4 May 1803
John married Mary KELL 9 July 1814
John Denning married Jemima GOODWIN 1 July 1827
William Henry married Sarah RICHARDS 1 July 1827
Ann married Thomas HUTCHINGS 21 December 1790
Ann married Thomas MORRIS 19 October 1801

RUTHVEN THEORY
In the past there had been much thought that all the Ruffin family
in the USA began with the one William Ruthven,
the fourth son of William RUTHVEN,
who was Earl of Gowrie, a Scottish nobleman,
executed for his enmity to Mary, Queen of Scots,
when young William was only 3 years old.

Ruthven Raid - 1582
Ruthven Family World Wide + Clans
Gowen Newsletter which explains the Gowrie Conspiracy Legend.
It is believed that he later fled to France, and eventually to Virginia, changing his name from Ruthven to RUFFIN.

Ed Dunn had some very good suggestions
for anyone interested in pursuing the Ruthven theory.
The one that I remember clearly is to make contact
with the Lord Ruthven of today
(their title was restored in later years).

He would most certainly be the best source for
Ruthven ancestry now.

I hope someone will take the challenge
to research the Ruthvens.

Maybe we can settle this once and for all.

"Thomas Ruffin"
I just returned from London, and I'm sorry to say
that my trip was not very productive
so far as my Ruffin research goes.

I had hoped that I would be able to find something
- anything - that could help resolve the dispute
as to whether we are of English or Scotch descent.

First of all, I was disappointed that I only had one day
to allocate to the research. S

econdly, the Family Records Centre was extremely busy
- almost chaotic, mostly Americans researching
their British roots.

The center appears to be under-funded,
and is located in a bad section of London.

In order to obtain assistance/advice,
I would have to stand in a long line
with other researchers - all anxious
and having their own time restraints.

The Brits working in the facility were always courteous,
however, they tend to provide you with a simple,
somewhat terse response, rather than guiding you
through the process or providing any information
not specifically requested.

As a result, it seemed that I spent more time in the line
waiting for assistance than I did in research.

The following is transcribed from my notes.

If you have any further interest in any of it, or wish to discuss it, please let me know. Y

ou can E-mail me or call me on my toll-free line at:
(800) 284-3579, ext. 329.

Generally, the records maintained at the center
that would be applicable to the Ruffins are:

1. Wills and administrations 1383 to 1858 from the
Prerogative Court of Canterbury ("PCC").

2. Many non-conformist registers 1567 to 1837.

3. Miscellaneous foreign returns of births, marriages
and deaths 1627 to 1960.

4. A range of supplementary indexes and publications on family history.

My first effort was to search the indices to Wills
and administrations for the years 1578 through 1636,
for entries with the surname of Thornton, Ruffin,
Whitehead, and Drewry. I found:

1627

John Ruffin, Portsmouth, Hants.

1631

John Thornton of Lenton, Lincs., 3/24/1630, by Edward Drewry.

Robert Whitehead of Semperington, Lincs., 5/11/1631, by Thomas Hincks.

1632

Thomas Thornton of Brockhill, Northants.

Edward Whitehead of London

1633

Mabell Ruffin of Eastrop, p. Highworth, Wilts.,
widow, 5/21/1633

John Thornton of Byfield, Northants., by son John

While I was at the center, I checked the British Isles version
of the IGI.

I found two entries for Catherine or Katherine Ruffins.

(You may already be aware of these,
since I know you have access to the IGI.)

Catarine Ruffin was christened
6 Aug. 1596, in Midhurst, Sussex.
Her father was Robart Ruffin

Katherine Ruffin married Richard Stent on 27 Aug. 1619,
St. Peter the Great, Chister, Sussex.

I found no other references to a Katherine Ruffin
in any of the other resources I looked at.

The IGI also listed the following Ruffins,
all in Sussex county. Y

ou probably already have this data,
but I'm including it, with the spelling exactly as it appears,
in case you don't.

Edward Ruffin, christened 29 Apr. 1615,
Father - William Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Elinor Ruffin, christened 29 Apr. 1615
, Father - William Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex (twin of Edward)

Elizabeth Ruffyn, christened Mar 1565,
Father - Ric. Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Elizabeth Ruffin, christened 18 Nov. 1575,
Father - Ric. Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Elizabeth Ruffin, christened 2 Apr. 1611,
Father, Willimi Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Elizabetham Ruffin m. Guillemus Morey 14 Oct. 1604,
Midhurst, Sussex

George Ruffin christened 5 Sep. 1591,
Father - Ric. Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Jone Ruffyn christened 11 Feb. 1570,
Father - Roger Ruffyn, Midhurst, Sussex

Joane Ruffin m. Edward Lane 13 May 1589,
So. Bersted, Sussex

Jone Ruffin christened 16 July 1590,
Father - Roberti Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Jone Ruffin m. John Hanam 1 Nov. 1612

John Ruffyn christened 1570, Father
- Richard Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Judith Ruffin christened 26 June 1580,
Father - Rogeri Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Margerie Ruffin christened 29 March 1579,
Father - Rici Ruffen, Midhurst, Sussex

Margerie Ruffyn, christened 9 Sep. 1582,
Father - Rogeri Ruffyn, Midhurst, Sussex

Mary Ruffyn christened 3 July 1606,
Father - William Ruffyn, Midhurst, Sussex

Mary Ruffin christened 2 Apr. 1613,
Father - Robert Ruffyn, Midhurst, Sussex

Mercy Ruffin christened 2 Apr. 1613,
Father - Robert Ruffyn, Midhurst, Sussex

Mercie Ruffin m. Arthur Lodger 5 Nov. 1640,
Upmarden, Sussex

Richard Ruffin christened 20 Feb. 1587,
Father - Ric. Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Robert Ruffine christened 4 Sep. 1615,
Father - Robert Ruffine, Treyford w. Didling, Sussex

Agnis Swan m. Roger Ruffin 12 Oct. 1567,
Midhurst, Sussex

Susan Ruffin christened 18 Nov. 1604,
Father - William Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

Thomas Ruffin m. Agnis Machyne 23 June 1566,
Midhurst, Sussex

William Ruffin christened 8 Mar. 1567,
Father - Richard Ruffyn, Midhurst, Sussex

William Ruffin christened 21 Aug. 1580,
Father - Ric. Ruffyn, Midhurst, Sussex

William Ruffen m. Joane Knight 15 Sep. 1585,
S. Bersted, Sussex

William Ruffin christened 14 Oct. 1618,
Father - Robert Ruffine, Treyford with Didling, Sussex

William Ruffin christened 2 Aug. 1618
- Father - William Ruffin, Midhurst, Sussex

The only information that I left with that might
have some value is the following.

It was transcribed from a book indexing
Wills and Administrations from Sussex County
that are archived in Chichester,
which is a small village in Sussex County.

And you may already have these, I don't know.

Wills on file in Chichester:

Ruffin, William, West Itchenor (orig. J. 99) vol. 14, page 468, 1588.

Ruffin, Thomas, Midhurst (orig. S. 32) vol. 12, page 177, 1580

Ruffin, Roger, Midhurst, vol. 12, page 84, 1579

Ruffin, Robert, Midhurst, vol. 18, page 39, 1630

Ruffin, Elizabeth, Westdean, vol. 21, page 364, 1649

Administrations on file in Chichester:

Ruffin, Agnes, widow, Midhurst, vol. F, page 175,
1621

Ruffyn, Robert, Midhurst, vol. C, page 16, 1579

Ruffen, Robert, Midhurst, vol. B, page 60, 1588

Ruffyn, Thomas, Midhurst, vol. C, page 46, 1580

I was told that these records can be ordered by contacting the archives office in Chichester. Do you know if they have already been researched?

I have been surprised at the many variations
in the spelling of the name "Ruffin",
which seem to vary even in a particular entry,
with father and son or daughter's surname
being spelled differently.

Lucy, please let me know if there is anything
here that might be a basis for further research.

Sorry this was all that I got.

Thom
ENGLAND - KENT
Barbara Mallyon"

I have William RUFFIN
married to Ann VINTER
11 May 1799
at St. Mary the Virgin Church, Dover, Kent.

Lott Burgy Cemetery , El Dorado, AR (Union Co.)
African American

Ruffin, Will H.
b. 17 Apr 1870
d. 02 Mar 1958
age 87

Ruffin, Mollie H.
b. 21 May 1896
d. 18 Mar 1960
age 63

Ruffin, Willie Howard
b. 10 Apr 1904
d. 26 Mar 1969
age 64
Wife of Carl Ruffin

Ruffin, Aaron
b. 22 Nov 1916
d. 19 Jul 1971
age 54
Gone but not forgotten

Ruffin, Carl
b. 04 Dec 1900
d. 09 Jun 1979
age 78

Ruffin, William Edward
b. 17 Feb 1914
d. 31 Mar 1980
age 66
Blessed are the peacemakers

Ruffin, Phillip, Jr.
b. 04 Mar 1972
God's Holy Child

White, Lillie Ruffin
d. 24 Jun 1985

Reference Books
From Dr. David Alexander Ruffin
“Any new approach to the arrangement
of old and new data must be carefully rechecked …

the Family Chart checked against the material
in Tyler’s Quarterly and all material checked
against material that has been published
in The Virginia Historical Register,

The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography,
Schwam’s (?) Index, Bohannan’s Old Surry,
and William and Mary Quarterly.

All of Boddie’s work must be checked:

Virginia Historical Genealogies (1954)

Historical Southern Families (1965), Volume 9

Historical Southern Families (1980), Volume 23

Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight (1938).

“Much material that should be added
is in H.H. Daniel’s William Ruffin Family History (1977)
and in Boddie’s “Ruffin of Virginia, North Carolina,
Middle Tennessee, Missouri and Oklahoma”
from Historical Southern Families, Volume 23
and his “Ruffin and De Loach of Virginia, North Carolina,
and Mississippi” from his Historical Southern Families,
Volume 9.”

Personally I’d love to be connected to the Ruthven alchemist. :)

But as you say, the Ruffins who came to Virginia apparently have nothing to do with the Ruthven clan of Scotland. And I “am” connected to Ruffin of county Kent through theIr Jewry and Penney marriages at Isle of Wight Virginia. They kept hogs and gifted each other with them. That’s not alchemy. :)

I disconnected the Ruthvens and locked relationships.

@Erica Howton

Be careful Ruthven in Canada, had fine hogs on their farms ;) hahaha

You were connected, until the disconnect
which i'll tag everyone to the correct discussion !!!
Erica Howton
I've written some magic with real physics ;)
- i'll move over to the other Ruthven profile
where i'm trying to re-connect the dots !!!

That’s the real magic, we’re just boring pig farmers. My father hated them. :)

I typed up an interesting story - but; I can't find where I put it
but; in the 1800s
a Ruthven and his wife
rode down on a horse drawn sleed
in minus 20; minus 40 F weather
with a sled full of moose / pig and deer meat
along with hides - and she sat on the back
with a long stick - and; a cloth wrapped in kerosene
lit with a flame; and; flung it at the 'wolves' that sometimes
tried to impede the path !!!

the trip took 2 days down; and; 2 days back up
to manitoulin islands in Ontario, Canada

Erica; we need to find out
how 'ruthven' and 'peadie'
fit into the tree leading thru
Knight William Ruthven
and; up to Lord #1 Ruthven
- i'm sure I uploaded enough documents ROFL
I also FOUND the tombstone says john riven - john Ruthven
where he is buried !!!