Brig. Gen. Joseph L. Martin - Errors in family of Joseph Martin

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8/25/2019 at 2:18 PM

He was not “married” to Susannah Emory his brother John was the father of he Martin children. John was probably also the father of Samuel Martin the son of Susannah’s sister Mary.

He had two children by Betsy Ward, the only Cherokee “wife” whose name is known. The children were Nancy and James Martin.

He had at least one other known Cherokee child, a unnamed son.

Joseph had seventeen children by his two white wives.

8/25/2019 at 3:01 PM

I am undoing a new duplicate tree and sending to be deleted, Marsha Gail Veazey

We have permission from Geni to do so.

After this next cleanup I’m locking all the relationships also. He’s a popular profile and there’s a lot of Martin mixups.

8/25/2019 at 3:05 PM

So I've been adding info and photos to a branch that will be deleted?

8/25/2019 at 3:18 PM

I will break the tree at a one of the children. I’m just separating the Gedcom duplicate that introduced 31 more children into the tree, including poorly formatted biographies. We have been advised by Geni not to merge these duplicates. But to send to Geni to be dealt with otherwise. See the curator only guidelines on the help platform:

“how to handle massive duplicate trees”

https://help.geni.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360033725853-How-to-...

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8/25/2019 at 6:02 PM

Who is Susannah Emory?

8/25/2019 at 6:48 PM

Susannah Martin

Is she missing a husband ?

8/26/2019 at 4:58 AM

Susannah Emory is a Cherokee woman who had three children, Rachel, Nannie, and John by John Martin, bother of Joseph. The mother of John and Joseph Martin was Susannah Page Martin, John and Joseph had a sister named Susannah, Joseph’s second wife was a Susannah, and he had a daughter named Susannah.

8/26/2019 at 5:05 AM

Susannah Emory is generally believed to have a son named Bushyhead by John Stuart.

8/26/2019 at 5:22 AM

I'm maternally DNA related to the Martin and Chiles lineage.
These are my cousins----- not my direct paternal Martin lineage, but I have cousins who are convinced we're paternally linked to Joseph Martin and Johanna Rawlinson lineage-----we do not!

I will have to look up my what books I have for this lineage. Let me know if you guys still need assistance. I was assisting someone with research disproving this as my direct great-grandfather.
you will get no help looking at online tree WKI Family MyHeritage all messed up- probably best resource would be Virginia Heritage So. -

8/26/2019 at 5:27 AM

Yes, Gen Martin still has too many children, and perhaps some are missing spouses.

And, for instance, there may be McGehee and Peery descent but I’m not sure and not sure whose.

Isaac Martin of Abemarle is “not” in this Martin family.

8/26/2019 at 6:06 AM

http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.com/2011/09/brig-general-josep...

He was a busy man this bio goes in yo detail two wives same times - a lot of children - one Indian wife - One White wife

perhaps if I come across an Indian son love child named Joseph Martin my cousins may be correct, doubt if he had 2 son's named Joseph.

8/26/2019 at 6:15 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Martin_(general)

Great references - explains the confusion of children - list children

great attached resources.

8/26/2019 at 6:19 AM

I suggest only listing children recorded in History - this is a well-documented family.

Did he have a probated Will? would be interesting to read.

can't add love children without documented facts. Should be a paper trail.

8/26/2019 at 6:34 AM

He had seven children by wife #1, 11 by wife #2, 2 by Cherokee Betsy Ward, all well recorded in history. The Moravian Journals mention an additional Cherokee son.

8/26/2019 at 6:46 AM

He had seven children by wife #1, 11 by wife #2, 2 by Cherokee Betsy Ward, all well recorded in history. The Moravian Journals mention an additional Cherokee son.

8/26/2019 at 1:37 PM

Was Nancy Ann Peery a daughter ?

8/26/2019 at 2:42 PM

No. Not a sister or a child. She was a contemporary. Joseph Martin Sr died in the winter of 1760-61. Named his children in his will: Brice, William, Joseph, John, George, Susannah, Ann, Mary, Olive, Sarah. Might be a Martha who pre-deceased her father.

7/14/2023 at 8:44 PM

This is the Master Profile for Brigadier General Joseph Martin, Jr..
Curator Note from Erica Howton (5/3/2023):
Son of Capt Joseph Martin, Sr. & Susannah Chiles. Husband of Sarah Lucas & Susannah Graves. He had two children by Betsy Ward, the only Cherokee “wife” whose name is known. The children were Nancy and James Martin. 17 children in all.

7/14/2023 at 8:44 PM

Time for clean up… he has more than 17 children attached to profile.
Please see.

7/14/2023 at 9:11 PM

Fudge. This profile is the devil itself to keep sorted.

7/14/2023 at 9:13 PM
7/14/2023 at 9:20 PM

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 Are you sure we have extras?

Going by wife & ordering them:

Sarah "Sally" Martin - 7 children described in about, 7 on tree

Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ Martin - 2 children sourced, 2 on tree

Susannah Martin - 11 children sourced, 11 on tree

7/14/2023 at 9:25 PM

OK, it’s the curator note being confusing. I’ll update it. Tree is correct though.

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7/16/2023 at 10:41 PM

Yes, we did just do this. Kathies comments in here first message from 2029 had been incorporated. If he now has 17 children someone’s been merging, we’re going to have to lock this one down…

7/16/2023 at 11:13 PM

It’s 20, and we’re good, I think.

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7/17/2023 at 3:51 AM

I agree, this is good.

7/17/2023 at 11:08 AM

Thank you, everyone!

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