Olof Björnsson, Munsöätten - Dronning Helena av Skövde is Olof Björnsson, Munsöätten's third great granddaughter? Sources?

Started by Private User on Friday, February 14, 2020
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Private User
2/14/2020 at 1:41 AM

I ran into such a strange family path.
These individuals may well be related, but where is the information and sources?

There is a line from Dronning Helena Torildsdotter Blot-Sven, av Skövde mothers side to Olof Brörnsson:

Sigtorn? Prince Ingvar of Sweden?

N.N. Obobrit (who is this person, sources? profile made 2019)

N Obobrit (sources?)

his father → Olof Björnsson, Munsöätten

1/2/2021 at 1:59 AM

I am also trying to solve this line. I have uploaded a pedigree chart from wikitree to the media tab, hoping it may help. The tree shows Olof (Olaf) Björnsson and Ingeborg (Thrandsdotter) Thrandsdatter - married about 0920 in Scandiavia, have two children - Gyrid Olafsdottir and Styrbjörn Starke Olofsson. Maybe, this will fill the gap.

1/4/2021 at 12:18 AM

UPDATE: I solved the missing pieces of NN Obobrit and N Obobrit, with 2 sources for each. View my tree to see them.

Private User
1/4/2021 at 3:39 AM

The Obotrites (Latin: Obotriti, Abodritorum,Abodritos…) or Obodrites, also spelled Abodrites (German: Abodriten), were a confederation of medieval West Slavic tribes within the territory of modern Mecklenburg and Holstein in northern Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obotrites

I guess someone made a name out of it, but surely, who was named Obobrit?

Then there is a mistake in this profile also, Olof Björnsson comparing the about me in English with Swedish, suggest that someone have made a mistake.

List
Erik Björnsson, King of the Swedes
his son Björn på Håga, Sveakung
his son Olof Björnsson

There are two different Björn Eriksson, lived ca.100 years apart, both had a son named Olof
1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_at_Haugi
2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Eriksson

Someone have taken this Olof Björnsson and given him the info in the about me section for the younger Björn Eriksson instead from the older Björn på Håga.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Bj%C3%B6rnsson
his brother
Eric the Victorious, king of Sweden

1/4/2021 at 4:36 AM

Glen Stephen Poland what do you mean View my tree to see them.?

1/4/2021 at 4:39 AM

Private User i think Dronning Helena Torildsdotter Blot-Sven, av Skövde and her parent's profiles are reasonable but :

Sigtorn? Prince Ingvar of Sweden?
N.N. Obobrit
N Obobrit

are inventions in an attempt to link Helena to Olof Björnsson, Munsöätten. Whether they are inventions from the middle-ages, 19th century or 2019 shouldn't matter.

Shall we delete them? As Ulf says Obobrit isn't even a name.

Private User
1/4/2021 at 5:02 AM

https://youtu.be/5cEK1OLhUKQ Eric the Victorious, king of Sweden should be reattached to his links back to the Munsöätten. In that way, people do not need to fabricate lines.

1/4/2021 at 6:01 AM

Can anyone validate this line (Alex):
Ragnar Lodbrok Sigurdsson
Son: Bjorn Ironside Ragnarsson
Son: Erik Björnsson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Bj%C3%B6rnsson
son: Anund Uppsale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anund_Uppsale
son: Eric Anundsson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Anundsson
son: Björn Eriksson was the father of
sons: Olof (II) Björnsson and Eric the Victorious (N and NN????)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Eriksson
(Olof (II) Björnsson – “By his queen Ingeborg Thrandsdotter, he was the father of Styrbjörn Starke”)
Son: Styrbjörn the Strong - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styrbj%C3%B6rn_the_Strong
Styrbjörn Olofsson
BIRTH ABT. 920 • Scandinavia, Sweden
DEATH ABT. 985 • Fyrisvallarna, Gamla Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden

1/4/2021 at 6:16 AM

I have this:

Ragnar Lodbrok Sigurdsson
Son: Bjorn Ironside Ragnarsson
Son: Erik Björnsson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Bj%C3%B6rnsson
son: Anund Uppsale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anund_Uppsale
son: Eric Anundsson - Erik (Arsael) "Weatherhat" Emundson -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Anundsson and
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Emundson-1
son: Björn Eriksson was the father of
son: Olof (II) Björnsson and Eric the Victorious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Eriksson
Olof (II) Björnsson – “By his queen Ingeborg Thrandsdotter, he was the father of Styrbjörn Starke”
Son: Styrbjörn the Strong - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styrbj%C3%B6rn_the_Strong and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Olofsson-2349
Styrbjörn Olofsson
BIRTH ABT. 920 • Scandinavia, Sweden
DEATH ABT. 985 • Fyrisvallarna, Gamla Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden
son: Thorgils Sprakeleg (Torgil) "Sprakalägg" Styrbjörnson formerly Styrbjörnsson
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Styrbj%C3%B6rnsson-18
son: Torild Totilsson (1020 - 1065)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Totilsson-1

Private User
1/4/2021 at 6:44 AM

Langfeðgatal is one of the better source for the the claim that Björn Eriksson is the father of Erik Segersäll, (the victorius).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langfe%C3%B0gatal

Private User
1/4/2021 at 10:38 AM

Tis is the correct list according to Langfeðgatal where the correct sons to their fathers is in correct order.

Ragnar Lodbrok
Björn Järnsida
Erik Refilsson
Emund Refilsson
Erik Emundsson
Björn Eriksson
Erik Segersäll
Olof Sjökonung

1/4/2021 at 2:26 PM

Glen Stephen Poland Wikipedia and Wikitree are not sources.

1/4/2021 at 2:29 PM

Maureen Ellen Murphy No, if for no other reason than it starts with Ragnar.

Private User
1/7/2021 at 9:39 AM

Both "Obobrits" should be deleted. In my opinion.

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