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John Ruthven is the only known child of George Ruthven and Elspet Hutchesone. He was born before 4 May 1688, the date upon which his baptism was registered at St. Ninians parish in Stirlingshire, Scotland. His baptismal record reads as follows: "George Ruthven [and] Elspet Hutchesone [a son named] John [witnesses] James & David Hutchison". [National Records of Scotland, St. Ninians Baptisms, 1688-1731, reference OPR.488/2] A link to an image of his baptismal record follows:
https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000121011600899&
At least one pedigree published by MyHeritage claims that John Ruthven is the same person as the Music Master of the same name who married Marion Peadie, settled in Glasgow, and had a family, although no proof of relationship is offered. A link to the pedigree published by MyHeritage follows:
https://www.myheritage.com/names/john_ruthven
The claim made by the pedigree published by MyHeritage is disputed by a pedigree published in The Ruthven Family Papers, which claims that Marion Peadie's husband was the son of a music professor who was also named John Ruthven, although no proof of relationship is offered. A link to the pedigree published in the Ruthven Family Papers follows:
https://archive.org/details/ruthvenfamilypap00cowauoft/page/61/mode...
Unequivocal evidence would be welcomed.
John Ruthven
(1688 - 1732)
PARENTS
George Ruthven
1663 - 1720
Elspeth Elizabeth Hutcheson
1678 - Unknown
WIFE
Marrion Margaret Peadie
1696 - 1732
John Ruthven
1721 - Unknown
James Ruthven
1724 - 1808
Anne Ruthven
1719 - 1815
Alexander Ruthven
1727 - 1727
John Ruthven
1718 - 1720
Archibald Ruthven
Unknown - Unknown
Duncan Ruthven
Unknown - Unknown
Thomas Ruthven
Unknown - Unknown
Born in Stirlingshire, Scotland on Apr 1688
to George Ruthven and Elspeth Elizabeth Hutcheson.
John Ruthven married Marrion Margaret Peadie
and had 8 children.
He passed away on 15 Feb 1732
in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
https://www.ancestry.ca/genealogy/records/john-ruthven-24-2118w4g
(NEEDS to be researched)
but; there is the 2 john's
one who lived - and; one who died young
so, why do you connect this date of death
Master John Ruthven, Music Master in Glasgow (b. - 1732 ...
https://www.geni.com/people/Mr-John-Ruthven-Music-Master-in-Glasgow/...
Mr. John Ruthven, Music Master in Glasgow, here treated, died before 15 February 1732, the date upon which the mortcloth was hired for his burial. The burial record reads as follows: "The Cittie of Glasgow Record of Mortalitie in Anno 1732
to the music guy ???
When I click on the link you have provided for Mr. John Ruthven it takes me to my own profile. I am not sure how you did that but I think that it is very clever. Well done!
I am sure that you don't need my help but just in case, the following link will take you to Mr, John Ruthven's profile:
John Ruthven, Music Master in Glasgow
I am puzzled by the fact that you have uploaded a copy of the first page of the testament dative of Sir John Ruthven of Dunglass, who died in May 1658, to the profile of Mr. John Ruthven, music master in Glasgow, who died before 15 February 1732.
Name excepted, they are not connected with each other, so far as I known, but if you have discovered a link I would be pleased if you would share it.
i also; found old notes
there was a guy from the 'parks' family
he told me Ruthven was spelled also as Ruven
and, he had a wife of Isobel or issobelle Parks
and, i see you mention her as ISOBEL PARK
i wonder if that is the REAL MISSING link
i'll need to look at that profile
more closely - thanks :)
the reason it loaded up to the one profile
was, i wanted you to look thru the 50 entries
i made there; and; sort them all out to the proper places
you are far more adept at that, than i am
thanks; susan
grant seems to think we are missing a level ???
i thought that too
is there 2 William Ruthven with wives; one clerkson - the other clerk
@Sir William Ruthven of Ballindean, Kt.
@William Ruthven, Writer in Edinburgh
the 3rd William Ruthven profile i'm hunting for - only has NEAL as the originator of the profile - so; i don't; know how to find it
in all the information i posted today; i'm sure i saw the two clerk/clerkson, or clerksone
thanks; susan
BIRTHS
RUTHVEN
MARGARET
WILLIAME RUTHVEN/MARIONE CLERKSONE FR469 (FR469)
F
16/08/1618
685/1
20 226
Edinburgh
RUTHVEN
JONET
WILLIAME RUTHVEN/MARION CLERKSONE FR373 (FR373)
F
26/11/1615
685/1
20 145
Edinburgh
RUTHVEN
WILLIAME
WILLIAME RUTHVEN/MARIONE CLERK FR305 (FR305)
M
04/06/1613
685/1
20 77
Edinburgh
RUTHVEN
PATRIK
WILLIAME RUTHVEN/MARIONE CLERKSONE FR550 (FR550)
M
22/01/1621
685/1
20 307
Edinburgh
WHY IS THERE NO WILLIAM with an 'e'
- LIKE WILLIAME
- esp; when the proof shows this name
- how many times ??? 4 times ???
just in births
William without the E is the modern spelling of this popular Christian name, but you should add the E if you feel that it is important to use this seventeenth century variation. A link to William Ruthven's profile follows.
William Ruthven, Writer in Edinburgh