Query on Connections

Started by Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 on Thursday, February 4, 2021
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This tree seems to span too many years to be biologically possible.

1. H-M69 FOUNDER SOUTH INDIA
2. BIBLICAL ERA ELAZAR, HaLevi
3. CA. 1300 ERA H-M69 PROGENITOR
4. CA. 1400 ERA H-M69 PROGENITOR
4. Levi לוי Leviev, Halevi

ISSUE 1 - these two brothers are unlikely to be brothers as one had a grandchild born in 1764 and the other in 1900

4. CA. 1400 ERA H-M69 PROGENITOR
5. Mordecai Levi
5. Borukh Ilizarov

ISSUE 2 - These 2 brothers have completely different surnames and lived in different countries - Iraq and Uzbekistan

BIBLICAL ERA ELAZAR, HaLevi overview states "This profile represents the speculative origin of the name Elazar HaLevi (Elazar the Levite)."

CA. 1300 ERA H-M69 PROGENITOR overview states "This is the most recent common ancestor between the Mordecai Levi, Borukh Ilizarov, and Levi Leviev lineages. They did not necessarily live at the same time but share a common paternal ancestor an estimated 700 years ago."

This tree appears to be speculative

2/9/2021 at 6:11 PM

The dates are speculative, having been estimated by a genetic genealogist (Meir Gover), but the connections are from y-DNA testing at the 111-marker level and was confirmed by finding the common surname (Elizarov being the Russianization of 'son of Elazar'). Adam Brown at the Avoteynu project might help in the future to have further analysis done to refine the estimates. I administered two tests within the Mordecai tree, from far apart, to statistically control for mutations that occurred since the generation of Mordecai's son Yair, but the analysis to produce a more refined estimate is still waiting to be done.

2/22/2021 at 12:56 PM

Profile #1 could be updated to represent not H-69 as a whole but the H-M69 member(s) of either the Cochin Jewish community circa 1st century AD - 5th century AD (in Kerala) or the Bene Israel community in Bombay between 1000 and 1300 terminus ante quem given the earliest of the Bukharan branches, with the caveat that the lineages might have split in India and then both migrated to Persia.

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