Anne Souchay, SM/PROG - Sources?

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173472002185

Ghislaine le Mauff provided evidence to Huguenot Society of South Africa including evidence of Anne's sister Elisabeth Souchay's marriage to Pierre le Roux in Mer, Loir-et-Cher. Her parents, and consequently Anne's parents, are given as Paul Souchay and Anne Poillerat. Original document attached above. Archives départementales de Loir-et-Cher – E-dépôt 136/5 page 59. Courtesy of Ghislaine le Mauff.

Quoting Ghislaine "There were many people whose name was Poillerat (also written Poillera, Poilrat) in Mer. "

Sorry to use you as a quick way to check, but what evidence proves Elizabeth is Anne's sister?

cf Elizabeth Souchay

Not that I'm disagreeing - I see I'm using that connection here myself:
https://www.geni.com/projects/Le-Roux-Genealogy-of-South-Africa/48730

LE ROUX, FOUCHER, BRUERE CONNECTION
On 31 Dec 1687 Jean & Gabriel le Roux, Philippe Foucher & Anne Souchay, with Estienne Bruere embarked together on the VOC ship Voorschoten to settle at the Cape of Good Hope. The le Roux brothers & Philippe Foucher were 2nd cousins. Philippe Foucher & Estienne Bruere were second cousins. Anne Souchay was the sister of the le Roux brother's sister in law. They all became progenitors of SA lines.

cf https://sites.google.com/site/lerouxfamiliebond/stamouers/the-le-ro...

But I'm not seeing very easily the proof of Elizabeth and Anne as sisters

If they both have descendants that are mtDNA haplogroup U 4c1, then they are either sisters or cousins. Anne Souchay most certainly is U-4c1 haplo group. (More than 3 descendants tested as U- 4c1 mtDNA haplogroup.)

Having the same mtdna haplogroup U4c1 would not mean you are definitely sisters or even cousins , could be 5000 year separation or even more
The match would have to be much more specific and closer.
See FTDNA mtdna Haplogroup U website.

Who was the le Roux's brother sister in law? Elizabeth Souchay ?

Petrus, we don't know Elizabeth's haplogroup as we don't have descendants for her. Also, as Philip says that wouldn't prove they were sisters.

Yes, Philip -if I recall correctly - I did the schematic quite a while ago - but that's just me assuming they were sisters - not proving it.

In Le Roux genealogy book a few discrepancies , I am want to go through it again. A Shoemaker that is also the the Lord of Pomegorge ? Hugenots not allowed to travel under strict surveillance but off to Paris and Amsterdam ?
As you say a good schematic with dates and wives and children to get an idea.

New evidence 2002 says Jean Roux / le Roux b* 1666 son Isaac of and Gabriel Roux / le Roux b* 1669 son of Pierre were not brothers but cousins.
See First Fifty years at the Cape Project.

http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g8/p8482.htm

Pierre Le roux husband of Elizaberth Souchay not brother of Daniel and Gabriel le Roux !!

irth* Pierre le Roux was born in 1623 in Blois, Orléanais, France.3,4

Marriage* He married Anne Bourdon circa 1660 France.1

Death* He died in 1682 France.5

Family
Anne Bourdon b. 1639
Children

Daniel le Roux6 b. 1661
Gabriel le Roux+3 b. 25 Jul 1669, d. b 8 Nov 1711

https://sites.google.com/site/lerouxfamiliebond/stamouers/the-le-ro...

This contradicts a lot of ---

First Fifty Years - a project collating Cape of Good Hope records
A project to transcribe and publish copies of records relating to individuals who lived at the Cape (Cabo da Boa Esperança / de Caep de Goede Hoop / Die Kaap die Goeie Hoop) during the first decades of the settlement after 1652

http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm
Think First Fifty years more value and less desire for ancestors .

cf Pierre le Roux

cf Pierre le Roux

Will have to spend time on this over the weekend. Please join the LeRoux project.

Read through a lot if it on Sunday. Needs analyzing.

Will be fun - just needs a block of time

Apologies for slow reply. Studying postgrad and some assignments due tomorrow.

Marriage certificate for Philippe Foucher and Anne Souchay 1677 with reference to parents of both parties:
https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173607707068

All credit to Ghislaine le Mauff.

Dankie Drummond. Thank you Drummond. I am sure this can now be taken as proof

For Pierre le Roux husband of Elizabeth Souchay ; his parents who is right here ?
--
the http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g8/p8482.htm

or

https://sites.google.com/site/lerouxfamiliebond/stamouers/the-le-ro...

Oh, I love a good document :-) THANK YOU Drummond!

I'm trying to cite all the people mentioned in this translation of my granny's wedding doc - but I don't have a lot of time - can somebody check which Jean BOURDON is the ' baillif living at Mer' mentioned in the doc? I have Estienne Bourdon as a bailiff, but there are a number of options for the Jean. See the family tree on https://www.geni.com/projects/Le-Roux-Genealogy-of-South-Africa/48730

So glad the question was asked.
If no one had asked what is the origins of her parents here on GENI this document / source would never have even been searched for and when found then added to the profiles on GENI.
Everyone can benefit from this sharing of information.
Thank you Drummond a great find .

Thank you Sharon for not being an Ostrich and being proactive and constructive : daring to ask a question.

:-)