Kunje Alberts - created a branch and think they are a match, would like different eyss to look at both profiles to confirm

Started by Private User on Friday, June 25, 2021
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Private User
6/25/2021 at 6:28 PM

The death date on this is incorrect , It should be

Death register 1815 Source: civil registryType of registration: death certificate(Deed) date: 21-03-1815Place: 't Zandt Details: Leaving five children.

Deceased Kunje Albers (work woman) age 86 years , deceased on 20-03-1815 in 't Zandt. deceased husband Sijmen Jans Father Albert Jacobs (farmer) Mother Anje Jans

There is another Kunje Alberts that married a Sijmen Jans in Garnwerd.

Private User
6/25/2021 at 6:38 PM

Here are the links to the 2 branches

Kunje Alberts

Kunje Alberts Alberts

6/26/2021 at 11:06 AM

These are two different couples. What are the odds!

You can see if you lookup
last name: alb*
first name: kun*
on allegroningers.nl

You can see baptism records in Spijk, and in Garnwerd-Oostum, some in the same year.
The Kunje Alberts in Garnwerd married in 1860.
in 1861 they both baptized a child: Lammert in september in Spijk, Peter in december in Garnwerd-Oostum

The Spijk-couple:
Cannot find the marriage
- Jan (1750)
- Anje (1751)
- Jan (1752)
- Geertje (1755)
- Albert (1757)
- Albert (1758)
- Lammert (1761)
- Geertje (1765)
- Jacob (1768)
- Jacob (1770)
This Kunje died in 1815 in 't Zandt

The Garnwerd-Oostum-couple
(Oostum is a hamlet near Garnwerd, I think that the churches had the same clerk)
Marriage in 1860
- Peter (1761)
- Aaltjen (1762)
- Oopke (1763)
- Auke (1766)
- Lisebet (1768)
- Gerrit (1770)
- Hilje (1773)
- Oopke (1775)
This Kunje died in 1810 in Garnwerd. 4 children were alive at that time

6/26/2021 at 11:18 AM

The Spijk Kunje Alberts was born around 1828

The Garnwerd Kunje Alberts was born around 1834

I will look for baptism records to clearly mark the parents of both

6/26/2021 at 11:20 AM

I meant 1728 and 1734!

The Garnwerd Kunje Alberts was baptized 12-12-1734 in Eenrum. Her parents are:
Albert Jans and Auke Gerrits

The names of Auke and Gerrit are also given to her children

Private User
6/26/2021 at 11:25 AM

So, how do we fix this?

6/26/2021 at 11:34 AM

The profile by Christina Eaton has the wrong parents and wrong year of birth (although I can't find a baptism record of a Kunje, daughter of Albert around 1727/1728)

6/26/2021 at 11:38 AM

Job Waterreus, can you take a look at this, advice us how to merge the profiles with that of Private User and then help us with making it a master profile, so that no-one will merge these two profiles, because Kunje Alberts, married with Sijmen Jans in Spijk is different than Kunje Alberts, married with Sijmen Jans in Garnwerd.

6/26/2021 at 12:03 PM

I think the Kunje Jans of Christina, has to be merged with the Spijk version of Kunje Jans,
The children in Christina's profile of Kunje are the Spijk children

then disconnect her from the Zijlema parents

6/26/2021 at 12:03 PM

*sorry, Kunje Alberts, not Kunje Jans

6/26/2021 at 12:25 PM

Also, Sijmen Jans in Christina's profile, was baptized in Garnwerd, and not in Spijk.
He and his siblings are from the Garnwerd-branch and should not belong in the Spijk-branch

6/26/2021 at 12:30 PM

But the children named in Christina's branch are from the Spijk-Sijmen Jans

What a mess!

6/26/2021 at 1:31 PM

Maarten Alexander Brandts Buijs
if you can sort it out and tell me what I need to do (like cutting connections if needed) then when all is fixed I can make them MP for you.

6/26/2021 at 3:02 PM

Job Waterreus, OK, I did the merges. What needs to be done is the following:
Kunje Alberts Alberts
the marriage with Sijmen Jans has to be removed
the relationship with parents Albert Jans Zijlema and Anje Garmts also needs to be removed

I believe that after that everything is where it should be and we can add sources, correct data etc.

6/27/2021 at 1:21 AM
6/27/2021 at 4:56 AM

Thank you.
I'll add all the information with sources for both couples. When I'm done I'll get back here :)

6/27/2021 at 6:26 AM

The Spijk Kunje Alberts has all information I could find:
Kunje Alberts Alberts

No record of baptism, marriage or burial can be found of Sijmen Jans (de Weert), only 10 times listed as father of his children in baptism records, 5 times as father of the bridge/groom and as husband on the death certificate of Kunje Alberts.

Now onto Garnwerd

6/27/2021 at 6:41 AM

Kunje Alberts from Garnwerd has all children, sources etc added
Kunje Alberts

As well as her husband Sijmen Jans
Sijmen Jans

6/27/2021 at 9:49 AM
6/27/2021 at 9:49 AM

Can I make them MP now?

Private User
6/27/2021 at 11:15 AM

Job Waterreus
Maarten Alexander Brandts Buijs

Thalnks for all your hard work sorting this all out!!!

6/27/2021 at 11:16 AM

Job Waterreus, yes, you can
All other information that can be added is for parents, siblings and children. I think I have all the information and sources on both pairs

Private User
6/27/2021 at 11:55 AM

Thank you for all your help.

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