Saul Zigfrid Cauzmer - Grandson, not son?

Private User

8/25/2021 at 7:28 AM

From his patronymic as seen on JRI, it would appear that he was a son of his 'brother' Zvi Hirsch Ozer Zausmer and thus a grandson, not a son, of R' Menachem Nahum Zausmer of Bialystok - who ought to have had only 2 sons, incidentally.

Kevin Lawrence Hanit C

8/25/2021 at 12:08 PM

Private User,

Can you provide the actual source from JRI-Poland.

Kevin

Private User

8/25/2021 at 1:20 PM

Sure. 1892 Bialystok marriages, akt 58
CAUZMER, SaulZigfrid Gerszowicz 1892 M 58
ZABLUDOWSKA, Fanni Gustawowna 1892 M 58

(A scan of the original is here, in Russian: https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/skan/-/skan/d11918967fd21abc4d7...)

Private User

8/25/2021 at 1:22 PM

The first Cauzmer/Zausmer in Bialystok was R' Menachem Nahum Zausmer of Bialystok, so 'Gersz' cannot be his father, so must be his son, and Saul-Zigfrid, his grandson.

Private User

8/25/2021 at 1:28 PM

The information as it is here is from Yad Vashem, submitted by a descendant of a brother, many generations removed. I suspect some confusion is at play here.

Kevin Lawrence Hanit C

8/25/2021 at 1:36 PM

Private User,

That marriage is for Saul Zigfrid Cauzmer and Fanny Cauzmer.

You need to look to see if you can find anything on the current siblings of Saul.

Kevin

Private User

8/26/2021 at 7:34 AM

I also have a source from the 1920s who seems confident that R' Menachem Nahum Zausmer of Bialystok only had two sons, Zvi Hirsch Ozer Zausmer and Oszer Enzel Cauzmer.

(See Avot Atarah la-Banim, a classic genealogical reference work, digital pages 222, 223, 246: https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46893&pgnum=222 )

I'd say that Zvi Hirsch Ozer Zausmer's son Saul Zigfrid Cauzmer is a duplicate of Saul Zigfrid Cauzmer, only with the correct father. (the information there is based on the same source linked above)

Kevin Lawrence Hanit C

8/26/2021 at 11:52 AM

Private User,

Thanks. I have moved the incorrectly located Saul and merged him in with the correctly located Saul.

I of course cut him away from Zvi Hirsch.

Kevin

Private User

10/12/2021 at 8:41 AM

Thanks, only just noticed your reply

Saul Zigfrid Cauzmer - Grandson, not son?

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