Collaboration with @LeanneM Curator

Started by Paul Charles Martin on Tuesday, September 14, 2021
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9/14/2021 at 2:54 PM

I am interested in collaboration with @LeanneM (Curator) AU. We are related thru Michael (Leanne's Spouse) and since I am paternallly related to a long established Jewish family from Budapest, maybe we can work together.

9/14/2021 at 2:55 PM

@LeanneM Curator ... please contact me if interested

9/19/2021 at 9:03 AM

My mom's mom, is Grandma Bertha (Buske) Southwell and this is all i have for now: trying to trace back for more info.

Her father, Charles H Buske was born on month day 1860, at birth place unk..
Charles married Wilhelmina Buske (born Holtz).
Wilhelmina was born in 1868, in Germany.
They had 7 daughters: Henrietta "Hattie" Day (born Buske), Lena Ida Rowley (born Buske) and 5 other children including Bertha and Mary A.
Charles lived in 1900, at address unk. , Michigan.
Charles passed away on month day 1937, at age 76 at death place, Michigan.
He was buried at burial place, (maybe Parma,) Michigan.

Thanks Jonathan Scott Krengel I didn't see it.

Hi Paul Charles Martin I will have a look for you

Paul, have you looked at the US Census to see if they give more information?

Hi,
I added in the dates and family from above and found a few matches and merges.

Have a look and see what else you can add (dates and locations and family).

I have found that putting in known sibling details (and their spouses) can often lead to Geni coming up with potential duplicates and record matches.

Leanne

9/19/2021 at 5:38 PM

'@LeanneM Curator' Thank you for all the work you are doing and I am happy with the immediate expansion of my own tree records. I have a second cousin (Norma Galafassi) who lives in Argentina and wants to find out as much information about her 'grandfather Isidor Eisenbach' ... she has been helpful with narrative information about her trip to BudaPest and her long talks with her mother and grandmother. I do have some pics of Southwell family and you have energized me into trying maybe to put some of these into the Geni tree. Thanks again, Paul Martin

Hi Paul,

I am adding some documents onto Charles profile - and linking the relevant profiles. I won't have time today to properly check that all the data from the sources are in Geni nor to connect them to the individual facts. I will try to finish that tomorrow.

But hopefully it might give you a few more leads to follow. (There are links in the documents to the original source - and some of these have additional images that might have more information)

Leanne

Hi,
I have attached the 1900 US Census to his profile - and his mother was living with him.

The 1900 US Census says he emigrated to the US in 1876 aged 24 - see if you can find his emigration papers (or his mothers)

9/20/2021 at 10:26 AM

Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 Leanne, So, I hope you get this as a tagged note. I have looked at all the merge issues (some 60 of them) and 99% of them are merges of profiles of folks in the Eisenbach or paternal side of my tree. My father (Poli / Pal / Pol / Paul Eisenbach) ran away to join the US Army in 1939 and fabricated a history of himself as he changed his name from Eisenbach to Martin. As a result he kept me and the Southwell/Buske side of the family from learning about the Jewish side of my tree. In trying to merge me to the Jewish side of my lineage, I have maybe stepped on some toes because the little I know about everyone is mostly just hearsay. I have actually met ONLY my father, and his brother Sinet Simon (Moses / Moeshe Eisenbach) and his son, Sinet Simon, Junior (Sonny / Chuck / Choochie). Therefore, when it comes to merges, I do not believe I am capable to merge any of their profiles/info. If you are comfortable resolving the merge issues please feel free. If there is a brother or cousin of Miriam Berlin still living .. I would believe that person would be eminently qualified to handle many if not all of the merge issues. ... Paul Martin

9/28/2021 at 8:41 PM

I don't know how / where to put this info from a research trip narrative from my cousin Carolyn Ybarra when she and her dad visited both upstate NY and SLC in about 2004 ... so I just pass it on for info about the Southwell family's origins here in USA:

Luther Bishop was our GGGG grandfather
(Mama and Aunt Jean, add a G). His daughter Nancy married Joseph
Southwell and they settled in Tyre (Seneca) NY. His son Luther
Bishop Jr. settled on the next farm and lived a long life in Tyre
(Daddy & I already have lots of info on all of them, from our New
York trip a couple years ago).

Luther Jr. served in the War of 1812. Luther Sr. apparently served
in the Revolution at the Lexington Alarm for 3 days, with the other
guys from Guilford, CT. (He would have been about 21 years old.)
Cousin David Fons initially gave me a pedigree on the Bishops, taken
from printed sources (thanks!), and I am verifying it with original
documentation. (Note that at least according to some printed
pedigrees I have looked at, we had at least 5 sets of British 8x
great grandparents who helped found Guilford in 1635.)

Luther Bishop (Sr.) lived (and died) in Mayfield (Fulton) NY, which
was part of Montgomery Co. when he first moved there. His will is
dated 7 June, 1826. He died before 3 Sept 1832 (according to the
pedigree chart, it was in 1830 but I have not verified that). This
document is dated with the 1832 date, as the time this estate was
settled at the courthouse. (This is not an original document, but is
the official court transcription of the original, probably written in
1832.)

Luther had a wife Patience, six sons, and six daughters (making her
name particularly apt!). He leaves several of them one dollar each,
which was most likely a token to let them know he had not
inadvertently left them out of his will. (Usually this was done
which property or money was already settled on adult children, and
the remainder was to go to those who were younger or had not yet
married, or sometimes to the eldest son).

Luther's children (living as of 1826) were: Luther, Phares, David,
Neriah, James, Nehemiah, Nancy, Polly, Laura, Olive, Betsy, and
Almira. Nehemiah gets the most, including all real estate (with the
lot numbers listed!) and "all personal property such as horses, cows,
oxen, plows, drags ... sheep, hogs". I am guessing he is youngest
and these are in birth order within the boys' and girls' groups (just
a guess). Note that this will names both Luther Jr. and Nancy,
helping to verify his relationship to our family!! Unfortunately it
does NOT say "of Seneca Co" NOR does it say "Nancy SOUTHWELL," but it
is still good support.

Note also that Joseph & Nancy (Bishop) Southwell ALSO had girls named
Olive & Betsy, and I think also Polly. (Polly Southwell is mentioned
in a land description in a land sale related to Joseph's land, but we
don't have further information on her. Olive M. is also mentioned in
a land document as Joseph's daughter, after which we lose her.)
Nancy seemed to have named all her girls after her sisters, and I
wonder if there was a Laura who died young.

I also looked at some microfilm of some court records from Guilford
(New Haven) CT, where the Bishop family apparently lived for 200
years starting in 1635. I did not see anything on Luther's birth,
but did find information on the men who are supposed to be his father
and grandfather (Ebenezer Bishop and Nathaniel Bishop). Again, this
information is from very old court ledgers, but not written at the
time of the events (births & marriages). (This is apparent because
the dates are all out of order.) I need to look at this film again,
because there was a LOT of information.

I did not find anything new on Southwell's, although I looked for it.

Paul Charles Martin

What you can do is

  • go to each of the profiles and check that all the family are attached - and that all the dates and places are updated.
  • add other information into the "About Me" or profile overview or create an event
  • add sources into the media tab

I tried to have a look at the profiles but I am unable to see where Luther BISHOP connects with you - so it looks like there are some profiles missing

9/29/2021 at 1:26 PM

@LeanneM Curator. Ok, i looked for the profiles nd added the ones that were not there a well as all the family info i felt was appropriate to add ... Luther Bishop is the father of Nancy Bishop ... Nancy Bishop was married twice.. first to Joseph Southwell (Joseph and Naney= parents of Edward Southwell who married Elizabeth Eighmey.) I resourced "find the grave" to get some of that information. Paul

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