James McIlvaine (McIlwean) - Trying to figure out

Started by Sarah Michelle Popchoke on Sunday, March 26, 2023
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I was told to start a discussion here I believe this man and this man https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/McElveen-8 are entirely 2 different people whoever created the wikitree profile has this man’s parents attached to him but the man on wikitree has different spouse and kid (the man ion wikitree is supposed to be my friends ancestor and he’s claiming decent to the Lords of Gimmet through this man and on Family Search someone added a whole bunch of kids to John Mcllvane and Sarah Clark yeah s whole lot of research needs to be done to figure this mess out but I’m fairly certain my friend isn’t related to this family the way they think

Family Search Links:
John Mcilvane https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/LR2L-PNK he’s attached to these parents:
John Mcllvain https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/family/LWY6-PMN
Sarah Clark https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/family/LWY6-P42
And Johns wife is Janet Dunn https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/family/LR2G-3FK now the John and Janet fit the Wikitree but he doesn’t fit here on Geni so I believe this John (wikitree and FS) and this John (Geni are 2 different people but thr John on Wikitree and FS has erroneously been added as a child of the John and Sarah and thusly can’t be related to the Lords of Grimmet)

I unhooked the person from Wikitree and FS so they are not erroneously added to this family since that person doesn’t belong to this family but would still like to help my friend figure out how he may be related if they really are

Here’s John McElveen

I added biography notes from Wikitree.

But also the bio from Wikitree is making it sound like that John is the son of these people whom as you said can’t be right since wrong spouse and child so again we are left trying to figure out what is truth and what is fiction (it’s easy to say one’s related to some famous people but harder to back it up with proof especially if said person has almost the same name as the one you are supposedly related to then you find out wait these are 2 different people so again I don’t believe that John is related at least not directly to this family so can’t be a Lord of Grimmet Scotland which these people were)

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