John Powell, of Culpeper County - Disputed relationships

Erica Howton C

6/6/2023 at 2:30 PM

Disputed relationships

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powell-111

Not the father of John Powell yDNA results from a known descendant of are in the R-M269 haplogroup, different from the haplogroup of the known descendants of John Powell, of Culpeper County & Ann Pickett of Culpeper, VA, who are in haplogroup T-M70.

If John Powell is T-M70, then he cannot have been the son of Honorias Powell, Sr. & Joyce Powell A descendant has uploaded Y DNA with a result of R1b1a2a1a1b.

Erica Howton C

6/6/2023 at 2:44 PM

Note:

Wikitree contradicts itself at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powell-1293, which shows haplogroup R-BY12150

I don’t see any of them at the Powell Surname DNA Project

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/powell/default.aspx?section=yr...

Another note:

No will for Honorias Powell, Sr. has ever been found. His probate record names widow Mary and son William only.

Erica Howton C

6/6/2023 at 2:59 PM

He named son Honorias, would he do that if unrelated?

So possibly

NPE (non paternal event - step son to Honorias?)
The haplogroup report is wrong
NPE further down the tree

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

6/6/2023 at 8:02 PM

Honorias Powell, Sr. is your 10th great uncle's first cousin.
You
→ Geneive Melba Hicks (Emerson)
your mother → John Mac Emerson
her father → Asberry Garfield Emerson
his father → Almeda Jane Self Emerson (Foster)
his mother → John Franklin Foster
her father → Willis Anthony Foster, Sr.
his father → Elizabeth Foster (Bobo)
his mother → Sarah Mary Bobo (Simpson)
her mother → Joseph Greene Simpson
her father → Elizabeth Zacharia Simpson (Greene)
his mother → Mary Ann Greene (Boarman)
her mother → Maj. William Boarman
her father → Mary Gardiner (Boarman)
his daughter → John Gardiner
her husband → Elizabeth Gardiner (Weire)
his mother → Honoria Jones (unknown)
her mother → Mary Powell (Place)
her daughter → Honorias Powell, Sr.
her son

Erica Howton thank you
Soooo interesting Honoria female has Honorias male descendants.
I will revisit.

Erica Howton C

6/6/2023 at 8:06 PM

Re: Soooo interesting Honoria female has Honorias male descendants.

Yes, that caught my eye also. I don’t recall any other Colonial Virginia family honoring a matriarch that way.

I’m re attaching John as son of Honorias. There isn’t enough information about the Y DNA discrepancy for me to be sure it occurs at this generation.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

6/6/2023 at 8:17 PM

I will check tomorrow if he is in the Germanna database

Gayle Stewart Wilson PRO

6/7/2023 at 8:03 AM

My Y-DNA Powell cousins who descend from Thomas Powell and Mary Place are R-M269. Perhaps Wiki-Tree's T-M70 for this famly is incorrect.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

6/7/2023 at 8:27 AM

Honoria Jones

Honor Feribe Hubbard

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

6/7/2023 at 9:27 AM

Not in the Germanna database. Several John but all born in 1800'2 and no Honor or varied spellings of the name

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