Agnes Forsyth

AGNES FORSYTH (aka AGNES FORSITH)

Agnes Forsyth here treated is the mother of John Elphinstoun. Liber Protocollorum: number 164 The identity of her son is not certainly known but it has been supposed that he is the man of the same name, who was the rentaller of the lands of Gorbals and Bridgend. He married Bessie Wardlaw Rental Book: pp. 82-3 and died before 13 June 1520. Rental Book: p. 78

First Marriage

The identity of Agnes Forsyth's first husband is equally uncertain but it has been supposed, because he may have been a citizen of Glasgow, that he is the same person as the man named John Elphinstone who is identified as one of the heirs of entail of John Elphinstone of Pittendreich in a charter dated 21 December 1496. RMS: 234 If it is Agnes Forsyth's son John who is also named as one of Pittendreich's heirs of entail five years or so later, on 12 August 1502, then her husband was the uncle of John Elphinstone of Pittendreich, and must therefore have been a son Henry Elphinstone of Pittendreich. RMS: 2662

Second Marriage

Agnes Forsyth married for a second time to Patrick Hamilton. Liber Protocollorum: number 164

Evidence from the Protocol Book of Cuthbert Simonis

19 March 1506: Instrument on the tack granted by Agnes Forsith, spouse of Patrick Hamiltoun, having the frank tenement and usufruct of a tenement in Glasgow, on the east side of the street as you go from the cathedral to the cross, in favour of John Elphinstoun, her son and heir, for her lifetime, of a chamber situated above the kitchen of the said tenement, on condition that the said John should build and give to her for her lifetime a house near at hand in which she could confortably brew and bake bread for her own family and strangers. Done in the said tenement on 19th March 1506. Liber Protocollorum M. Cuthberti Simonis Notarii Publici et Scribae Capituli Glasguensis A.D. 1499-1513. Also Rental Book of the Diocese of Glasgow A.D. 1509-1570. Vol. I (Grampian Club, London, 1875), protocol abstract number 164 on p. 342

Evidence from the Rental Book of the Barony of Glasgow

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13 June 1520: Betragis Wardlaw remytit off the forfattour led on hir for contrakyn off marige but leciance, and rentalit agayn in the vj mark land off the Bryghend. Liber Protocollorum M. Cuthberti Simonis Notarii Publici et Scribae Capituli Glasguensis A.D. 1499-1513. Also Rental Book of the Diocese of Glasgow A.D. 1509-1570. Vol. I (Grampian Club, London, 1875), p. 78

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22 March 1521: George Elphistoun, son off vmqwyle Jone Elphistoun, rentalit in vj lib. land off Bryghend and Gorbaldis in Gwfane ward, be consent off his modyr, Beatrise Wardlaw, scho brukand for her tyme, and efftyr hyr the sayd George. Ibidem, pp. 82-3

Evidence from the Register of the Great Seal of Scotland

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21 December 1496: Charter made in favour of Johanni Elphinstoun de Pettindreich. Johanni E[lphinstoun] civi Glasguen is named as one of the heirs of entail. This charter was confirmed under the Great Seal of Scotland on 1 February 1496-7. Registrum Magni Sigili Regum Scotorum. The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, A.D. 1424-1503 (H.M. Register House, Edinburgh, 1882, charter number 2341 on p. 498

Note: Johanni Elphinstoun de Pittindreich is the same person as Johanni Elphinstoun de Erth. This charter was printed in full in the Elphinestone Family Book. The Elphinstone Family Book of the Lords Elphinestone, Balmerino and Coupar. By Sir William Fraser, KCB., LL.D. In Two Volumes: Vol, II - Memoirs etc. (Edinburgh 1897), charter number 16 on pp. 235-37

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12 August 1502: Charter made in favour of Johanni Elphinstoun de Erth. Joh. Elphinstoun filio avunculi dicti Joh. is named as one of the heirs of entail. This charter was confirmed under the Great Seal of Scotland on 27 August 1502. Registrum Magni Sigili Regum Scotorum. The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, A.D. 1424-1503 (H.M. Register House, Edinburgh, 1882, charter number 2662 on pp. 565-66

Note: This charter was printed in full in the Elphinestone Family Book. The Elphinstone Family Book of the Lords Elphinestone, Balmerino and Coupar. By Sir William Fraser, KCB., LL.D. In Two Volumes: Vol, II - Memoirs etc. (Edinburgh 1897), charter number 18 on pp. 239-41

Genealogical Account

Clan MacFarlane: Agnes Forsyth