Alexander II Setoun de Wintoun, Knight

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http://www2.thesetonfamily.com:8080/cadets/Winton_Family.htm From Philip stems the family of Winton, and in the style of the times, his son took as their family name that of their estate.

family Winton or Wyntoun having belonged as above stated to Alexander and Philip Seton The issue of this marriage was together with a dau to George 10th Earl of Dunbar and March one son Sin William SETox who was 10th feudal Lord of Seton and was a distinguished knight in the reign of Rob EET III and is thought by many to have been created a lord of parliament with the title of lord Seton He m Katherine dau of Sir William St Clair of Herdmanston and had by her

http://www2.thesetonfamily.com:8080/directory/case.htm The next of the early royal charters is also one of Confirmation by King William dated ‘apud Forfar, 16 Junij in the sixth year of his reign, (1170), and confirms ‘Alexandro filio Philippi de Setune, terram quae fui Philippe patris sui, scilicet Setune et ‘Wintune et Wincelburgh, tenend, sibi et haeredibus uis de me et haeredibus meis in feudo et haereditate,’ &c. ‘Sicut carta patri suo inde facta testatur’. The originals of these two royal charters of the twelfth century remained among the other family muniments in the ****Winton**** Charter Chest down to the forfeiture in 1716. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mainegenie/SETON.htm 3I. ALEXANDER (ALEXANDER 1, PHILIP 2)******* Sir Alex- ander Seatoun of Wintoun d.c. 1246********

Alexander was given a charter to the lands of Setune, Wintune and Wincelburgh at Forfar by King William the Lion about 1195 as son of Philip de Setun.(1) Alexander de Seton, knt, occurs frequently throughout the reign of Alexander II. He was a witness to a charater dated 12 Feb. 1236 by Alexander II to Kinloss Abbey.(5) He made a donation to Dunfermline Abbey for the benefit of his soul before 1246 and probably died shortly afterwards.(2)

Alexander's estate was not settled for many years. A decreet of the Court of Sessions registered 10 Feb. 1620 gives the names of the alleged ancestors of George, third Earl of Winton (the plaintiff in the case), up to Alexander's father Philip. It has been assumed that this judicial proceeding proves each link in the chain, however, this is not the case as the decreet merely embodied the summons and the pleadings of the parties as was customary and the line of succession was neither proved before the Court nor accepted in any way by the judges.(3) "Bartine Seytoun" was said by Maitland to have "succedit to Alexander, his father" which is possible. There is a Bertram, son of Alexander de Settone, who had a grant from Patrick of Dunbar, Earl of March, of the lands of Richelkellach in East Lothian about 1201. Sir Robert Douglas in 1769 said that he had examined "the whole papers of the family of Winton" when he wrote his Peerage of Scotland and he omits him from the line of succession.(4)

Issue- ?I. Bertram- ?4II. SERLO-

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Source= http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mainegenie/SETON.htm Philip is said to have married Alice, daughter of the 4th Earl of Dunbar, however, it seems probable that he was the husband of Matilda Corbet as her son Alexander de Seton became security for her in 1216.(3) There is an undated charter by Matilda Corb renouncing the claim by her husband Patrick Ridale to her part of the lands of Lillesclive which was witnessed by Alex de Setun her son.(4)

Issue- 3I. ALEXANDER- II. Thomas- III. Emma- m. Adam de Pollisworth Ref:

(1) Eglinton Charter Chest- quoted in "The History of the Family of Seton During Eight Centuries"- George Seton, Edinburgh, 1896, Vol. I, p.68 (2) Registrum de Dunfermelyn- Bannatyne Club, 1842, p.39 (3) "The History of the Family of Seton"- Vol. I, p.63; Liber Sancte Marie de Melros- Bannatyne Club, 1837, Vol. I, p.249 (4) Liber Sancte Marie de Melrose: Munimenta Vetustiora Monasterii Cisterciensis de Melros, Bannatyne Club, Ediburgh, 1837- Tome I, 282, p. 249

"The Scots Peerage"- Vol. VIII, pp.560-1 3I. ALEXANDER (ALEXANDER 1, PHILIP 2)

d.c. 1246

Alexander was given a charter to the lands of Setune, Wintune and Wincelburgh at Forfar by King William the Lion about 1195 as son of Philip de Setun.(1) Alexander de Seton, knt, occurs frequently throughout the reign of Alexander II. He was a witness to a charater dated 12 Feb. 1236 by Alexander II to Kinloss Abbey.(5) He made a donation to Dunfermline Abbey for the benefit of his soul before 1246 and probably died shortly afterwards.(2)

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14 MARGHMONT AND THE HUMES OF POLWARTH. Little is known of these early Polwarths. The first mention of the name in a charter occurs in the time of AlexanderII. (1214-1249), at the end of whose reign Adam de Polwarth, Knight, had the lands of Beith given him from

**************** Sir Alex- ander Seatoun of Wintoun, ************      in frank marriage with Eva his sister. 1 He left two sons : Patrick, his successor in the barony ; and Adam, who, by a deed still existing among the 

1 " Chartul. of Dunfermling in Biblioth. Juricl. Eclin." See Crawfurd's Peerage.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_SetonThe Wintons The Setons were granted the lands of Winton c.1152 by Scotland's King David I, which grant was re-confirmed in a charter to them, to Philip de Seton, from William the Lion in 1169. Philip de Seton bestowed Winton on his 2nd son who thus became de Winton and who's descent Alan de Winton later married the heiress Margaret Seton. Alan's eldest son, William adopted his mothers surname and continued the line of the Seton's and became the 1st Lord Seton.[2] The male blood line of the main Seton family failed with an heiress, Margaret Seton who married Alan Winton after she was abducted by him. Alan de Winton was a descendant of the first Lord de Winton, a second son of Philip de Seton. Their son William took the name Seton and became Lord Seton of Tranent. Their second son, Alexander Seton married Elizabeth the heiress of Sir Adam Gordon. Their son Alexander Gordon became the 1st Earl of Huntly.

SOURCE= http://www.houseofgordonva.com/files/The_Evolution_of_the_Gordon_Su... and Winton lineages and theories Alexander Seton was the son of Catharine St. Clair, daughter of Sir William St. Clair of Herdmandston, and Sir William Winton, who assumed the Seton surname; thereby William (Winton) Seton. William and Catherine had two sons and six daughters. The eldest was John and he took his father’s Seton surname and the younger aforementioned Alexander Seton who married Elizabeth de Gordon in 1408 and assumed her Gordon surname. Sir William was killed at the Battle of Chevy Chase in 1388 (Seaton 1906. pp. 57). Sir William Winton-Seton was the son of Lady Margaret Seton, the only child of Sir Alexander Seton and Margaret Murray, and Baron Alan de Winton (born about 1315, Wintoun Castle, Pencaitland, East Lothian, Scotland). Around 1347 Lady Margaret Seton was abducted by Baron Sir Alan de Winton, who lived nearby and was possibly distantly related to Lady Margaret. Tradition of several descending families dictates that the Wintons were cadets of the Seton family, who built Wintoun Castle. The Wintons The Setons were granted the lands of Winton c.1152 by Scotland's King David I, which grant was re-confirmed in a charter to them, to Philip de Seton, from William the Lion in 1169. Philip de Seton bestowed Winton on his 2nd son who thus became de Winton and who's descent Alan de Winton later married the heiress Margaret Seton. Alan's eldest son, William adopted his mothers surname and continued the line of the Seton's and became the 1st Lord Seton.[2]