Alice Gould (Axtell)

It appears that Alice Axtell married Henry Whitman first and had eleven children with him. Apparently she was widowed around 1521 and then remarried Thomas Gould (Goolde), alocal knight. There are some references to the Gould family being the suppliers of meat for the royal household. Some call them butchers because of this.

In Gould family records Thomas Gould's wife is named Alice, no surname noted. Perhaps he had two wives both named Alice.

From Axtell One Name Study

See also Alice AXTELL's other family: with Thomas GOULD (1500?-1547)

Alice AXTELL's parents:

• Thomas AXTELL (1460?- ) and Joan GOULD (1468?

Family of Henry WHITMAN and Alice AXTELL

• Husband: Henry WHITMAN (1463?-1520?)
• Wife: Alice AXTELL (1490?-1546)

Children:

1. Edward WHITMAN (1509?-1566).
2. Henry WHITMAN (1512?- )
3. Alice WHITMAN (1513?- )
4. Mary WHITMAN (1514?- )
5. Joan WHITMAN (1515?- )
6. Thomas WHITMAN (1516?- )
7. William WHITMAN (1517?- )
8. Eleanore WHITMAN (1518?- )
9. Richard WHITMAN (1519?- )
10. Francis WHITMAN (1520?- )
11. Agnes WHITMAN (1521?- )

Marriage 1511 (app)

• Husband: Henry WHITMAN
• Name: Henry WHITMAN 1,2
• Sex: Male
• Father: Henry WHETMAN (1439- )
• Mother: -
• Birth 1463 (app) Albury, Bishop Stortford, Hertfordshire, England, UK 2
• Death 1520 (app) (age 56-57) Holt, Norfolk, England, UK
• Wife: Alice AXTELL
• Name: Alice AXTELL 3
• Sex: Female
• Father: Thomas AXTELL (1460?- )
• Mother: Joan GOULD (1468?- )
• Birth 1490 (app) Stoke Mandeville, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England, UK
• Death 28 Jun 1546 (age 55-56) Bovingdon, Dacorum, Hertfordshire, England, UK

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• http://longislandgenealogy.com/whitman.html

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not a son of this Alice axtell - it's been disproved:

• Child 1: Edward WHITMAN
  • Name: Edward WHITMAN 4,5
  • Sex: Male
  • Spouse: Bridget KELLOND (1513?-1547?)
  • Birth 1509 (app) Bletchingly, Surrey, England, UK 5
  • Death Q1 1566 (age 56-57) Bletchingly, Surrey, England, UK 4,5

these children are OK

• Child 2: Henry WHITMAN
  • Name: Henry WHITMAN 6
  • Sex: Male
  • Birth 1512 (app) The Lee, Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England, UK
• Child 3: Alice WHITMAN
  • Name: Alice WHITMAN 7
  • Sex: Female
  • Spouse: John RUSSELL (1513?- )
  • Birth 1513 (app)
• Child 4: Mary WHITMAN
  • Name: Mary WHITMAN 8
  • Sex: Female
  • Birth 1514 (app)
• Child 5: Joan WHITMAN
  • Name: Joan WHITMAN 9
  • Sex: Female
  • Spouse: John GIBBONS ( - )
  • Birth 1515 (app)
• Child 6: Thomas WHITMAN
  • Name: Thomas WHITMAN 10
  • Sex: Male
  • Birth 1516 (app) The Lee, Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England, UK
• Child 7: William WHITMAN
  • Name: William WHITMAN 11
  • Sex: Male
  • Spouse: Alice HARRIS (1517?- )
  • Birth 1517 (app) Aldbury, Tring, Hertfordshire, England, UK
• Child 8: Eleanore WHITMAN
  • Name: Eleanore WHITMAN 12
  • Sex: Female
  • Spouse: James CARTER (1518?- )
  • Birth 1518 (app)
• Child 9: Richard WHITMAN
  • Name: Richard WHITMAN 13
  • Sex: Male
  • Birth 1519 (app) Holt, Norfolk, England, UK
• Child 10: Francis WHITMAN
  • Name: Francis WHITMAN 14
  • Sex: Male
  • Birth 1520 (app) Leardon, Hertfordshire, England, UK
• Child 11: Agnes WHITMAN
  • Name: Agnes WHITMAN 15
  • Sex: Female
  • Spouse: John STRONG (1515?-1534)
  • Birth (1) 1521 (app)
  • Birth (2) 1516 16
• Note on Husband: Henry WHITMAN
  • DEATH: Date of death assumed from date of Alice Axtell's 2nd marriage and that she was noted as being a widower for the 2nd marriage according to John Knowlton (afmontague12@chartermi.net) of ancestry.co.uk

Note on Wife: Alice AXTELL

• From ancestry.co.uk (Jon Knowlton afmontague12@chartermi.net)

Also Known As: Alice /Mandeville/

Ancestral File Number: 8541-WS

Whether or not this is the actual name of Thomas Gould's wife is a matter of debate. If this was her name and if she came from Stoke Mandeville then her parentage is a matter ofsome interesting possiblities. The Mandevilles were a old family of the nobility in southeastern England and well connected to the upper noble ranks. analysis by JHKnowlron 2-9-03

A.K.A. Alice Mandeville b.1499 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2404180...

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It appears that Alice Axtell married Henry Whitman first and had eleven children with him. Apparently she was widowed around 1521 and then remarried Thomas Gould (Goolde), alocal knight. There are some references to the Gould family being the suppliers of meat for the royal household. Some call them butchers because of this. Sources 1 Ancestry, "Ancestery.co.uk" (http://www.ancestery.co.uk). http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224793&ti=5538. 2 "Person - Eric Watt" (http://www.genesr eunited.co.uk/tree/?member_key=4903703). Genes Reunited. 3 Ancestry, "Ancestery.co.uk" (http://www.ancestery.co.uk). http://trees.an cestry.co.uk/owt/person.aspx?pid=30103610. 4 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224781&ti=5538. 5 Cyril Davies, "Person - Cyril Davies". Genes Reunited. 6 Ancestry, "Ancestery.co.uk" (http://www.ancestery.co.uk). http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224796&ti=5538. 7 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224795&ti=5538. 8 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224794&ti=5538. 9 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224792&ti=5538. 10 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224791&ti=5538. 11 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224790&ti=5538. 12 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224789&ti=5538. 13 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224797&ti=5538. 14 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224787&ti=5538. 15 Ibid. http://awtc.ancestry. com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&;db=:2483460&id=I524224788&ti=5538. 16 "Person - Roger Sharland" (http://www.genesr eunited.co.uk/tree/?member_key=1053624). Genes Reunited.

• The family of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield By Benjamin Apthorp Gould
• http://books.google.com/books?id=GDi1U2IQAPEC&pg=PA306&lpg=PA306&dq...
• https://archive.org/details/familyzaccheusg00goulgoog
• https://archive.org/stream/familyzaccheusg00goulgoog#page/n29/mode/1up
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• 17. THOMAS3 GOOLDE, of Bovingdon, probably born about 1500, son of Richard and Joan. Wife Alice. Named in his father's will, but not in his mother's although she make bequest to each of his (then) seven children. The youngest of his eight children must consequently have been born between 1537 and 1546.
• His will, made 1546 June 28, and proved 1547 Nov. 23, is as follows:
• In the name of God Amen, the xxviij day of June in the yere of oure lord god a m'cccccxlvj and in the first yere of the reigne of oure soveraigne lord Kyng Edwarde the sixte, I Thomas Goolde theldere, of the parish of Bovington in the countie of Hertford beinge of good and perfighte remembrance, prayse be to Allmyghtie god, make this my last will and testamente in manere and forme folowinge.
• First I bequeithe my soull to the mercie of allmyghtie god and to all the glorious company of heven and my bodie I will to be buriede in the churche of Seynt Laurence of Bovington next to the sepulcre of Richard Goolde my father.
• Itm I bequeithe to the seid churche .... etc.
• Itm I bequeithe to Joone Goolde my doughter v'li sterling to be paid to hir w't in the space and terme of one hole yere after my decesse, and before the yere be fullie expirde yf seid Joone do marye, and also ij payre of sheats ij platters, one sawcere, a candlesticke, and a payntide cloth.
• Itm I bequeithe to Agnes Goolde my doughter v'li sterling, ij peyre of sheats, ij platterys, one sawcer, a candlesticke and a payntide clothe, and theis summs of money and other stuffe to
• https://archive.org/stream/familyzaccheusg00goulgoog#page/n30/mode/1up
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• be payde to them w't in the space of and terme of one hole yere after my decesse, yf they do mary w't out eny further delaye
• Itm I bequeith to Elsabeth Goolde my daughtere iij" vi's viij'd sterling, one peyre of sheatis, ij platterys, one sawcere, a candilsticke, and a Kettill
• Itm I bequeith to Bregitte goolde my doughtere iij" vi's viij'd sterling, one peyre of sheatis, ij platterys, one sawcere, a candlesticke and a Kettill
• And I will that Elsabeth and bregite shall have ther legacies and porcions delivered to them at the age of xviij yere. And yf it happen the seid Elsabeth or bregitte to dye or departe from the present liffe byfore they come to the age of viij yere, than I will that the longare livere of them ij to to have halfe of that legacie and the other half to remayne to the use of Thomas Goolde the sonne of Thomas.
• Itm I will that all my doughters shall have all theis my legacies frelie besids all other thingis which they have gatheride and have in ther possession.
• Itm I bequeith to John Goolde my sonne a leven hundreth felows, that is to seye, x hunderide of spooks, the one halfe of beche and the other halfe ooke, and also one peyre of sheats ij platterys, a sawcere, and a candilstick.
• Itm I bequeith to Richard Goolde my sonne, sexe hunderide of felows of beichie tymber, ij hunderide of spoks, one peyre of sheats ij platterys, a sawcere and a candlesticke.
• Itm I bequeith to yonge John goolde my sonne, sexe hunderde of felows of beche tymber, ij hunderide of spoks, one peyre of sheats, ij platters, one sawcer, and a candlestick.
• Itm I bequeith to Thomas Goolde my sonne all the hole croppe of come growing upon the lands belonging to my place that I dwell in, that is to seye, of wheate, barley, peace and oots.
• Itm I will and bequeith to Alice my wiff a cow and ten sheape, and sufficient meate and drinke w't Thomas my sonne as longe as she doith keepe hir self unmaryede, orells xl's everye vere for hir meate and drinke, and she to be all waye at hir libertie wether she will taike hir mete and drink orells xl's a yere.
• Itm I will that Alice my wiff have every yere a quartere of meate and fuell for hir fiere, and one cowe keping both wynter and summ, and the keping of ten sheape as longe as she keape hir self sole and unmarriede.
• And yf she marye then she to take hir stuffe and catall and to goo at hir libertye.
• Itm I will that Alice my wiff have yerelie the thirde pte of all the frute on the grounde so longe as she is unmaryede.
• Itm I will that Alice my wiff and Thomas my sonne have the brasse and pewtere equallie devydide betwen them, and
• https://archive.org/stream/familyzaccheusg00goulgoog#page/n31/mode/1up
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• also the tubbis, with bollis and dishes with othere housholde stiiffe belonginge to the housse.
• The rest of all my goodis not bequethide, after my detts be paide, and this my will fulfillide and don, and my bodie honestlie brought to the yerthe, I geve and bequeathe to Thomas my Sonne, the which Thomas I ordeyn and make myn executor and Thomas Goolde my cussyn with hym of this my testament and last will, to the which Thomas my cosyn I geve for his paynes v's and his coasts yf he riede or goo a bought my businesse.
• Itm I will that Immediatly after my dethe ther be geven to poure folke vj's viij'd.
• Also I ordeyn and make Richard Shakemeeple supervisore of this my testament, and I will to hym for his payns iij's iiij'd
• Theis being witnesse and present at the will makinge, John Goolde my brother, Roger hunte, Thomas Goolde, Richard Shakmaple, w't other.
• Children:
  • 36. THOMAS of Bovingdon, b. about 1521, executor in 1546; d. 1561; wife Alice [? Clerke]
  • 37. JOHN, the elder, in his father's will 1546, and in his uncle's 1559
  • 38. RICHARD, of Stoke Mandeville; b. about 1530; d. 1558; m. Jane (widow Weeden)
  • 39. JOAN, of age 1546
  • 40. AGNES, of age 1546
  • 41. ELIZABETH, b. before 1537 but not 18 in 1546
  • 42. BRIDGET, not 18 in 1546
  • 43. JOHN the younger, b. about 1538
• 18. .... etc. ________________________
• The ancestry and posterity of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield : a condensed abstract of the family records (1872)
• https://archive.org/details/ancestryposterit00ingoul
• https://archive.org/stream/ancestryposterit00ingoul#page/8/mode/1up
• THOMAS GOULD, of Bovingdon, son of Richard and Joan, was born in or before the year 1500. His will is dated in 1546 and was proved in 1547. By his wife, Alice, he had seven children living in the year 1537, and eight at the time of his own death ; only two of them being at that time under eighteen years of age. The first four of these children were sons ; the third being
• RICHARD GOULD, of Stoke Mandeville, who was born as early as 1530, and married (perhaps as his second wife), Jane, widow of ---- Weden. By her he had two sons, Richard and Henry.
• RICHARD GOULD, of Bovingdon, .... etc. _________________________
• Genealogical and personal memoirs relating to the families of Boston and eastern Massachusetts (1908) Vol. II
• https://archive.org/details/genealogicaland01cuttgoog
• https://archive.org/stream/genealogicaland01cuttgoog#page/n257/mode...
• Pg. 773
• (III) Thomas Gould (Goolde), son of Richard Gould (2), was born about 1500, and was named in his father's will. He lived at Bovingdon. His will was dated June 28, 1546, and proved November 23, 1547. He married Alice ---- . Children: 1. Thomas,
• https://archive.org/stream/genealogicaland01cuttgoog#page/n258/mode...
• born about 1521; executor 1546; died 1561; married Alice (Clerke?). 2. John, the elder, in his father's will, 1546, and in his uncle's, 1559. 3. Richard, born about 1530; mentioned below. 4. Joan, of age 1546. 5. Agnes, of age 1546. 6. Elizabeth, born before 1537. 7. Bridget, not eighteen in 1546. 8. John, the younger, born about 1538.
• (IV) Richard Gould (Gold), son of Thomas Gould (3), was born about 1530. He lived at Bovingdon and Stoke Mandeville. His will was dated December 4, 1558, at Stoke Mandeville, and signifies his desire to be buried at Bovingdon. He married Jane, widow of Weeden. Children: .... etc. ____________________________
• Genealogical and personal memoirs relating to the families of Boston and eastern Massachusetts (1908) Volume 1 By William Richard Cutter
• http://books.google.com/books?id=OU0k2d8nl3IC&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq...
• https://archive.org/details/genealogicalpers00cutt
• https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalpers00cutt#page/166/mode/1up
• (III) Thomas Goolde, son of Richard Gowle, born about 1500, was named in his father's will. He lived at Bovingdon. His will was dated June 28, 1546, and proved November 23, 1547. He married Alice ---- . Children: 1. Thomas, born about 1520-1 ; executor 1546; died 1561; married Alice (Clerke?). 2. John, the elder, in his father's will 1546, and in his uncle's 1559. 3. Richard, born about 1530; mentioned below. 4. Joan, of age 1546. 5. Agnes, of age 1546. 6. Elizabeth, born before 1537. 7. Bridget, not eighteen in 1546. 8. John, the younger, born about 1538.
• (IV) Richard Gold, son of Thomas Goolde, was born about 1530. He lived at Bovingdon and Stoke Mandeville. His will, dated December 4, 1558, at Stoke Mandeville, signified his desire to be buried at Bovingdon. He married Jane Weeden, widow. Children: .... etc. _________________________
• Historic homes and places and genealogical and personal memoirs relating to the families of Middlesex County, Massachusetts ; (1908) Vol. 4 edited by William Richard Cutter
• http://books.google.com/books?id=nn1yyHiYJFYC&pg=PA1649&lpg=PA1649&...
• https://archive.org/details/historichomespla04cutt
• https://archive.org/stream/historichomespla04cutt#page/1649/mode/1up
• (III) Thomas Goolde, son of Richard Gowle (2), born about 1500, was named in his father's will. He lived at Bovingdon. His will was dated June 28, 1546, and proved November 23, 1547. He married Alice ---- . Children: 1. Thomas, born about 1520 ; executor 1546; died 1561; married Alice (Clerke?). 2. John, the elder, in his father's will 1546, and in his uncle's 1559. 3. Richard, mentioned below. 4. Joan, of age 1546. 5. Agnes, of age 1546. 6. Elizabeth, born before 1537. 7. Bridget, not eighteen in 1546. 8. John, the younger, born about 1538.
• (IV) Richard Gold, son of Thomas Goolde (3), was born about 1530, lived at Bovingdon and Stoke Mandeville. His will, dated December 4, 1558, at Stoke Mandeville, signified his desire to be buried at Bovingdon. He married Jane, widow of ---- Weeden. Children: .... etc. _________________________
• (NO OTHER REFERENCE LISTS HIS WIFE AS HAVING SURNAME MANDEVILLE)
• Alice Mandeville1
• F, #155422, b. circa 1507
• Alice Mandeville was born circa 1507 at England.1 She married Thomas Gould, son of Richard Gould and Joan, circa 1528 at England.1
• Family Thomas Gould b. c 1505, d. Nov 1547
• Child
  • Richard Gould+1 b. c 1530, d. Dec 1558
• Citations
• [S11674] Genealogy.com, Ancestors of Stanley Elmer Allen.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p5175.htm#... __________________________
• Name Thomas Gould, Sr.
• Suffix Sr.
• Born Abt 1500 of, Stoke Mandeville, Buckingham, England
• Christened of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England
• Gender Male
• Died 28 Jun 1546 Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Herford, England
• Buried Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Herford, England
• Person ID I22954 Full Tree | Larson
• Last Modified 27 Sep 2013
• Father Richard Gould b. Abt 1479, of, Stoke Mandeville, Buckingham, England d. Bef 25 Apr 1531, Peterborough, , Northampton, England (Age ~ 52 years)
• Mother Mrs. Joan Gould b. Abt 1480, , Stoke Mandeville, Buckingham, England d. Bef 12 Jan 1537 (Age ~ 57 years)
• Married Abt 1499 Peterborough, , Northampton, England
• Family ID F10281 Group Sheet
• Family Mrs. Alice Gould b. Abt 1499, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England d. 1538 (Age ~ 39 years)
• Children
  • 1. Thomas Gould, Jr. b. 1521, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England d. 1561 (Age 40 years)
  • + 2. Richard Gould, Sr. b. Abt 1530, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England d. 1558, Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Herford, England (Age ~ 28 years)
  • 3. Joan Gould b. Abt 1531, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England
  • 4. Agnes Gould b. Abt 1532, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England d. Aft 1546 (Age ~ 15 years)
  • 5. Elizabeth Gould b. Abt 1534, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England d. 1548 (Age ~ 14 years)
  • 6. Bridget Gould b. Abt 1536, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England
  • 7. John Gould b. 1538, of Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Hertford, England d. 20 Nov 1602, Bovingdon, Hemel Hempstead, Herford, England (Age 64 years)
• Last Modified 17 Aug 2010

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