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About Alix de Meulan

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AMAURY [IV] de Meulan, son of AMAURY [III] de Meulan Seigneur de Gournay-sur-Marne et de la Queue-en-Brie & his wife Marguerite de Neufbourg (-after 1300). [%E2%80%9CAmaury de Meullent troisième du nom...fils d’Amaury II et cetuy cy fils d’Amaury I, tous barons de la Queuë” donated property to La Croix Saint-Leufroy by charter dated Apr 1273[1946]. If this document was “O.S.”, and therefore actually dated Apr 1274, it could refer to Amaury [IV] (assuming that Amaury [III] died [Jan/Apr] 1274) and would therefore be consistent with his ancestry shown here.] His parentage is confirmed by the following document. Seigneur de la Queue-en-Brie: "Almarricus de Meullento dominus de Cauda, Guillelmus de Essartis dominus de Amblinvilla, Gobertus de Argiis dominus de Guitebœuf, Albertus de Longavalle dominus de Croissiaco milites, Isabellis uxor predicti Guillelmi, Yda dicti Goberti, et Anna dicti Alberti uxores… heredes dicte foreste…" confirmed rights of pasture “in villa de Roissiaco in Bria” to Notre-Dame de Gournay by charter dated Nov 1274[1947]. The same parties confirmed rights of pasture “in villa de Roissiaco in Bria” to Notre-Dame de Gournay by charter dated Apr 1274 (O.S.?), and Apr 1275[1948]. Seigneur de Neufbourg (part): the Chronicle of Bec records foundation stones placed in 1275 by “…Amalricus de Mellento dominus de Novoburgo”[1949]. Jean de Châtillon Comte de Blois approved the division of "la forest de Roissy" agreed by “monseingnor Amaurri de Meulant, Guobert d’Argis et Yde sa fame, Guillaume des Essarz et Ysabel sa fame, Aubert de Longueval et Anne sa fame, chevaliers et dames” by charter dated Mar 1276 (O.S.)[1950]. Seigneur de Gournay-en-Marne: "Almauricus de Meulento dominus de Cauda et de Gornayo armiger, dominus Gobertus de Argiis et dominus Guillelmus de Amblevilla milites" authorised the opening of two roads through “nemorum nostrorum de Roissiaco in Bria” by charter dated Nov 1281[1951]. Demeulant-Thauré records that “Amaury de Meulan fils d’Amaury et de Marguerite de Neufbourg est dit Alamaric de Meulan seigneur de la Queue en Brie jusqu’en 1295 selon l’abbé Leboeuf”[1952]. The corresponding reference in Lebeuf’s Histoire de la ville et de tout le diocèse de Paris has not been found, but Lebeuf does record “Amaury de Meulent…seigneur de la Queue” in 1300 (no citation reference)[1953]. m (before 1280) ---. No primary source has been found which names Amaury’s wife. His suggested marriage date is based on the possible birth date of his supposed son Jean. [A list of convocations to the army at Lisieux dated 25 Mar 1319 (N.S.) includes “…la dame de Meullent, pour la Keue en Brie…” from “vicecomitatus Parisiensis”[1954]. Could this have been the widow of Amaury [V]?] Amaury [IV] & his wife had [four possible children] (the three sons are confirmed as brothers by the 10 Jan 1323 charter quoted below, but the source which confirms that they were children of Amaury [IV] has not been identified. The succession by Amaury [V] to Neufbourg indicates that this is likely to be correct.):

1. AMAURY [V] de Meulan (-[10 Aug 1321/10 Jan 1323]). Seigneur de Neufbourg. Seigneur de Cantaing [Cantaing-sur-Escaut, about 5 kilometres south-west of Cambrai, in the present-day French département Nord, arrondissement Cambrai, canton Le Cateau-Cambrésis], de iure uxoris. “Amauri de Meurlent sire de Neubourch et de Cantaing et Marie sa femme dame de Cantaing” donated property to Notre-Dame de Cantimpré by charter dated 5 Feb 1309 (O.S.)[1955]. Guillaume Comte de Hainaut allowed “Ernoul d’Enghien seigneur de Prayaus” to keep “Mgr. Amaury de Meulens Seigneur de Neufbourg” in prison to guarantee payment of debts he owed, by charter dated 6 Mar 1317[1956]. “Amaury de Meullent sire du Nuefbourt” promised to avoid hostilities against the Comte de Hainaut until the following 1 Oct, by charter dated 10 Aug 1321[1957]. Guillaume Comte de Hainaut agreed with “Guillaume de Meulent chevalier et Jean de Meulent archidiacre de Brie en l’église de Meaux, frères de noble homme monseigneur Amauri de Meullent” to allow “les enfans que ledit Amauri de Meullent avaient eu de madame Marie jadis dame de Cantaing” possession of “[le] château et terre de Cantaing” by charter dated 10 Jan 1323[1958]; an annexed letter dated 11 Mar 1324 bore the seal of “Galeran de Meullent cousin d’Amauri”[1959]. m MARIE Dame de Cantaing, daughter of --- (-before 10 Jan 1323). “Amauri de Meurlent sire de Neubourch et de Cantaing et Marie sa femme dame de Cantaing” donated property to Notre-Dame de Cantimpré by charter dated 5 Feb 1309 (O.S.)[1960]. She is named as deceased in the 10 Jan 1323 charter quoted above. Amaury [V] & his wife had [three or more?] children: a) [two or more] children . Their existence is confirmed by the 10 Jan 1323 charter quoted above. They may have been the same persons as Amaury [VI] and Thomas, named below. b) AMAURY [VI] de Meulan (-Apr [1357/62]). Père Anselme names Amaury as son of Guillaume de Meulan and his [second] wife Jeanne de Bouville[1961]. Amaury [VI]’s inheritance of Neufbourg and Cantaing indicates that he was the son of Amaury [VI]. Père Anselme records sources dated 1337, 1340, 1345, 1347, 1348, 1349, 1351, 1353 and 1356 in which he is named[1962]. Seigneur de Neufbourg, de Cantaing, et de Marcoing: “Ameury de Meullent sire du Noeuburc, de Cantaing et de Marcoing” donated property to Cantaing by charter dated 13 May 1331[1963]. “Amaury de Moeullent sr de Neufbourg et de Cantaing” acknowledged pasturage rights of the inhabitants of Cantaing by charter dated 22 May 1337[1964]. “Amaury de Meullent sire de Neufbourg chevalier” acknowledged receipt of payments by charter dated 2 Jan 1345 (O.S.?)[1965]. The Chronique des règnes de Jean II et de Charles V records that, after the murder of “monseigneur Charles d’Espaigne, lors connestable de France” 8 Jan 1353 (O.S.), Charles II King of Navarre sought protection in Normandy from “les dessus nommés de Harcourt, le seigneur de Hambuie, monseigneur Jehan Malet seigneur de Graaville, monseigneur Almaury de Meulent”[1966]. “Amaury de Meullent” donated property and granted privileges to Notre-Dame du Parc d’Harcourt by charter dated 7 Jan 1356 (O.S.?)[1967]. He is named as deceased in the 6 Nov 1362 charter of his uncle Bishop Jean, cited below. m (1327) JEANNE d’Harcourt, daughter of RAOUL [III] d’Harcourt Seigneur d’Aurilly, d’Auvers et des Planches & his wife Jeanne de Trie (-Apr 1363). Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, but cites no primary source on which this information is based[1968]. She is named as her husband’s widow in the 6 Nov 1362 charter of his uncle Bishop Jean, cited below. Dame d’Aurilly et d’Auvers. La Roque cites an “Extraict des Registres de la Cour du Parlement de Paris communiqué par Messieurs de Saincte Marthe” [undated] which records “Raoul” as father of “Raoul pere de Jeanne heritiere desdictes terres l’an 1357 femme d’Amaury de Meulent seigneur de Neufbourg” noting that the Jeanne was childless and was succeeded by “le pere du Comte de Harcourt d’apresent” in her lands[1969]. Père Anselme records her death in 1363[1970]. Demeulant-Thauré says that the necrology of Rouen records her death in April[1971]. The marriage was childless. c) THOMAS de Meulan (-after 6 Mar 1337). Seigneur de Marcoing: “Pierre de Manencourt dit Papelart vicaire perpétuel en l’église Saint-Géry de Cambrai” leased a house at Cambrai from “Thomas de Meulent seigneur de Marcoing” by charter dated 6 Mar 1337[1972]. The connection with Marcoing (presumably inherited from their mother) indicates that Thomas was the brother of Amaury [VI].

2. JEAN de Meulan ([1280/83]-22 Nov 1363). The 10 Jan 1323 source quoted below confirms that Jean was the brother of Amaury [V]. Archdeacon of Brie, at Meaux: Guillaume Comte de Hainaut agreed with “Guillaume de Meulent chevalier et Jean de Meulent archidiacre de Brie en l’église de Meaux, frères de noble homme monseigneur Amauri de Meullent” to allow “les enfans que ledit Amauri de Meullent avaient eu de madame Marie jadis dame de Cantaing” possession of “[le] château et terre de Cantaing” by charter dated 10 Jan 1323[1973]. Demeulant-Thauré records that “Jean de Meullent archdiacre…héritier de Guillaume de Meullent seigneur de Milly son frère” sued “Isabelle de Trie veuve de Guillaume” as the parlement de Paris in 1335[1974]. No record of this lawsuit was found under 1335 in Furgeot’s collection of records from the parlement de Paris[1975]. Bishop of Meaux. Bishop of Noyon Feb 1350. Bishop of Paris 1351. “Jean de Meulan évêque de Paris seigneur de Neubourg, héritier en partie de feu Amaury de Meulan son neveu seigneur de Neubourg et Jean seigneur de La Ferté-Fresnel et de Gacé neveu dudit évêque et son héritier présomptif” committed to paying the debts “dudit Amaury”, to be paid by “le dit sieur de la Ferté auquel le dit évêque cède dès lors la baronnie du Neubourg”, except for “le douaire de Jeanne d’Harcourt veuve dudit Amaury…”, by charter dated 6 Nov 1362[1976]. Père Anselme records his date of death and says that he was 80 years old when he died[1977].

3. GUILLAUME [IV] de Meulan (-[13 Apr or 7 Jun] before 1335). [La Roque names “Guillaume [II] sire de Gournay et de la Croix-Sainct-Leufroy”, father of the two daughters shown below, as the son of the person shown above as Guillaume [II][1978]. From a chronological point of view, that seems impossible. The chronology suggests that the father of these two daughters was more likely Guillaume [IV], which would also explain the inheritance of Gournay-sur-Marne by Marguerite de Meulan (see below).] Seigneur de Gournay-sur-Marne. “Guillaume de Meullent chevalier seigneur de Gournay sur Marne” donated property to Notre-Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne, for the soul of “madame Jeanne ma femme”, by charter dated 30 Nov 1305[1979]. Guillaume Comte de Hainaut agreed with “Guillaume de Meulent chevalier et Jean de Meulent archidiacre de Brie en l’église de Meaux, frères de noble homme monseigneur Amauri de Meullent” to allow “les enfans que ledit Amauri de Meullent avaient eu de madame Marie jadis dame de Cantaing” possession of “[le] château et terre de Cantaing” by charter dated 10 Jan 1323[1980]. He is named as deceased in the 1335 document quoted below under his second wife. [The necrology of La Croix Saint-Leufroy records the death 13 Apr of “dominus Guillelmus de Meulento miles” and 7 Jun of “dominus Guillelmus de Mellento” and his donation[1981]. These two entries could presumably relate either to Guillaume [III] or Guillaume [V].] m firstly JEANNE, daughter of --- (-before 30 Nov 1305). “Guillaume de Meullent chevalier seigneur de Gournay sur Marne” donated property to Notre-Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne, for the soul of “madame Jeanne ma femme”, by charter dated 30 Nov 1305[1982]. La Roque records that the father of the two daughters shown below married “Jeanne de Graville fille de Robert Mallet sire de Graville et de l’héritière de Sées, de Bernay, du Bois et de Teruille, fille de Robert Comte d’Alençon et de Sées, nommée Alle d’Alençon” [which appears to confuse the supposed bride’s mother with her paternal grandmother][1983]. It is not known whether this statement includes any grain of truth. m secondly [as her first husband,] ISABELLE de Trie, daughter of MATHIEU de Trie Seigneur de Fontenoy et de Plainville & his wife --- (-after 16 Feb 1348). Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages (no sources cited), although he incorrectly identifies the parents of her first husband[1984]. Demeulant-Thauré records that “Jean de Meullent archdiacre…héritier de Guillaume de Meullent seigneur de Milly son frère” sued “Isabelle de Trie veuve de Guillaume” at the parlement de Paris in 1335[1985]. No record of this lawsuit was found under 1335 in Furgeot’s collection of records from the parlement de Paris[1986]. Demeulant-Thauré records that “Jean de Meullent évêque de Meaux” sued “Isabelle de Trie fille de Mathieu [seigneur de Fontenay et de Plainville] veuve de Guillaume de Meullent seigneur de Milly en Gâtinois” in 1343/45[1987]. Isabelle married secondly Jean de Hangest. The following document indicates Isabelle’s second marriage, and apparently names her father as “Lancelot Barat chr. Vicomte d’Orléans” (the inconsistency is presumably explained by his being her stepfather, her mother’s second husband): an appeal dated 16 Feb 1348 reversed the decision against “Lancelot Barat chr. Vicomte d’Oléans” who defended against “Jean de Meulan évêque de Meaux consr du Roi, Jean de Hangest chr et Isabeau de Trie sa femme, ayants droit de Guillaume de Meulan chr” concerning “la dot promise par le vicomte à sa fille dans son contrat de mariage…qu’il disait avoir payée, ce que son gendre Guillaume contestait”[1988]. Guillaume [IV] & his first wife had [three children]: a) WALERAN de Meulan (-[1329/35]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. However, the chronology suggests that he was probably the son of Guillaume [IV] de Meulan by his first wife. A letter dated 11 Mar 1324, annexed to the 10 Jan 1323 charter quoted above, bore the seal of “Galeran de Meullent cousin [meaning neveu?] d’Amauri”[1989]. Père Anselme records that “Waléran” was living with his wife Jeanne de Bouville in 1329[1990]. Waléran presumably predeceased his father if it is correct, as indicated above, that his supposed paternal uncle Bishop Jean was Guillaume’s heir. m (after May 1320) JEANNE de Bouville, daughter of JEAN de Bouville Seigneur de Bouville, de Farcheville et de Milly-en-Gâtinais & his wife Marguerite de Bommiers ([1308]-3 Dec, after 1329). The marriage contract between "Jehan Conte de Roucy chevalier et Marguerite de Bosmes sa fame" and “Olivier de Cliczon et Blanche de Bouville fille de feu Jehan de Bouville chevalier et de lad. Marguerite jadis sa fame”, under which the latter couple made commitments towards “Jehanne de Bouville suer de ladite Blanche et fille dud. feu et de lad. Contesse jadis sa fame, quant elle ara douze ans” and organised the dower of “la mere dudit Olivier”, is dated May 1320[1991]. Père Anselme records that “Waléran” was living with his wife Jeanne de Bouville in 1329[1992]. The necrology of La Croix Saint-Leufroy records the death 3 Dec of “domina Johanna condam uxor domini Guillelmi de Mellento militis domini de Cruce in parte”[1993]. Waléran & his wife had [two] children: i) ISABELLE de Meulan (-7 Feb 1407, bur la Perrine). Her parentage and three marriages are recorded by Richemond[1994]. Her parentage is confirmed by the second 13 Dec 1348 document quoted below. Richemond states that Jean de Clisson died childless in 1346 and bequeathed Milly to his maternal first cousin Isabelle de Meulan[1995]. Dame de Milly-en-Gâtinais. “Guillaume Paynel chr fils d’Olivier Paynel chr à cause d’Isabeau de Meulan sa femme” sued “Guillaume de Vivonne chr” concerning “une terre…à Blaison et dont il avait été saisi après le décès de Jean de Clisson chr”, dated 1348[1996]. A document dated 13 Dec 1348 records possession of “la terre et châtellenie de Concressant et de la terre de Montfaucon” granted to “Guillaume Paynel fils d’Olivier Paynel chr à cause de sa femme Isabeau de Meulan héritière de feu Jean de Clisson chr”, against “Savary de Vivonne chr et Mahaut de Clisson dame de Thors sa femme sœur de Jean”[1997]. A document dated 13 Dec 1348 records possession of “deux maisons…à Paris rue Pavée…[qui] provenaient de la succession de Jean de Clisson chr” granted to “Guillaume Paynel fils d’Olivier Paynel chr à cause de sa femme Isabeau de Meulan fille de Galeran de Meulan, sa femme”, against “Guillaume de Vivonne chr”[1998]. “Guillaume Painel escuyer Seigneur de Milly en Gatinois fils de...Olivier Painel chevalier [...Seigneur de Moion] en son propre...nom et ou nom de damoiselle Isabel de Meullent sa femme absente [...fille de Galeran de Meulent iadis escuyer]” appointed a proxy regarding the sale of “le chastel et chastellenie de Concressaut”, inherited by “d’icelle damoiselle”, by charter dated 20 Dec 1351[1999]. Père Anselme records her second marriage without citing any source on which this information is based[2000]. Letters dated 8 Mar 1383 addressed to “[le] baillé au Roy de la terre de Milly en Gastinois” record a claim relating to “Gaes” brought by “Henry de Thieuville chevalier Seigneur dudit lieu et par Isabeau de Meullent sa femme”[2001]. Père Anselme records her date of death and place of burial[2002]. m firstly (before 13 Dec 1348) GUILLAUME Paynell, son of OLIVIER Paynell Seigneur de Moyon & his wife ---. Seigneur de Milly, de iure uxoris. m secondly GUILLAUME de Montenay Seigneur de Garencières, de Baudemont et du Hommet (en partie), son of ---. m thirdly HENRI de Thiéville, son of --- (-before 7 Apr 1394). ii) [ALIX de Meulan . Her parentage and marriage are recorded by La Chesnaye-Desbois[2003]. The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified, but it is consistent with the following docuiment: “Jean de Meulan évêque de Paris seigneur de Neubourg, héritier en partie de feu Amaury de Meulan son neveu seigneur de Neubourg et Jean seigneur de La Ferté-Fresnel et de Gacé neveu dudit évêque et son héritier présomptif” committed to paying the debts “dudit Amaury”, to be paid by “le dit sieur de la Ferté auquel le dit évêque cède dès lors la baronnie du Neubourg”, except for “le douaire de Jeanne d’Harcourt veuve dudit Amaury…”, by charter dated 6 Nov 1362[2004]. m JEAN [II] Seigneur de la Ferté-Fresnel, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Seigneur de la Ferté-Fresnel & his wife Marie Bertrand (-after May 1368).] b) [JEANNE de Meulan (-1342, bur Rouen Jacobin church). La Roque names “Jeanne de Meullent Baronne de Clere et de la Croix S. Leuffroy” as the older daughter of “Guillaume [II] sire de Gournay et de la Croix-Sainct-Leufroy” and his wife, naming “Philippes Baron de Clere fils de Jean Baron de Clere et de Mathieu de Preaux, fille de Jean sire et chastelain de Preaux chevalile [...fils d’Aubert de Preaux et de Mahaut]” as her husband and providing some details about the couple’s descendants[2005]. The chronology suggests the possibility that Jeanne was the daughter of Guillaume [IV] by his first wife. Dame de la Croix-Saint-Leufroy. An epitaph at Jacobin church at Rouen records the burial of “Philippes de Clere chevalier seigneur de Clere” who died 28 Oct 1346 and “dame Jeanne de Meullent femme dudit Philippes de Clere” who died in 1342[2006]. m PHILIPPE de Clere, son of JEAN de Clere & his wife Mathe de Préaux (-28 Oct 1346, bur Rouen Jacobin church).] c) [MARGUERITE de Meulan . La Roque names “Margueritte de Meullent Dame de Rouvray et de Gournay” as the younger daughter of “Guillaume [II] sire de Gournay et de la Croix-Sainct-Leufroy” and his wife, in a later passage naming “Jean de Rouvray sire de Grainville sur Ry seigneur de Buchy” as her husband, noting a charter dated 26 Mar 1330 under which “messire Jean de Rouvray chevalier” appointed “Marguerite de Meulent sa femme” as proxy for selling “le chasteau et chastellenie de Gournay sur Marne” and providing some details about the couple’s descendants[2007]. The chronology suggests the possibility that Marguerite was the daughter of Guillaume [IV] by his first wife. m (before 26 Mar 1330) JEAN de Rouvray Seigneur de Grainville-sur-Ry et de Buchy, son of ---.]

4. [ALIX de Meulan (-after 1327). Père Anselme records her marriage, saying that Alix was the daughter of Amaury [III] de Meulan and his wife Marguerite de Neufbourg[2008]. That suggestion appears unlikely to be correct, considering the chronology of the Estouteville family. Maybe Alix was the daughter of Amaury [IV]. Morandière records that Alix was still living in 1327 (no source cited)[2009]. m ESTOUT d’Estouteville Seigneur de Torcy, son of ROBERT [V] Seigneur d’Estouteville & his wife Alix Bertrand (-after 1316).]