Ambros (Ambroise) Haydel

1724 German Coast census (Deiler: German Coast, p. 83): "Ambros Heidel (Haydel), of Neukirchen, electorate of Mayence [Mainz]. Catholic; 22 years old. Baker. His wife; his brother, 18 years old; his brother-in-law, aged 13, crippled. One and a half year on the place. 'Good worker, very much at ease.' One pig." "Ambros Heidel's younger brother is mentioned for the last time in 1727. It is possible that he was murdered by the Natchez Indians with the family of his sister. See No. 11. From the entry there it does not appear whether the brother murdered was the husband's or the wife's brother." "1731: Ambros Heidel, wife, two children. One engage'. Three negroes and two cows."

Maduell: Census Tables (144), p. 40.

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   We know when Ambrose was baptized but not when he died. The last reference in civil documents that indicated he was still living was on March 20, 1767.[1] The earliest date of death appears to be May 31 1774 when his widow and heirs sold a farm to Louis Girard Pellerin.[2] 

Name: Robichaux notes that in the Catholic registers of Neunkirchen in Bavaria, the name is spelled HEIDEL. [3] Other variations found in civil and church records: Haydel, Haydelle, Aidel, Aidelle and others. Conrad uses "Haydel" to refer to the this man.[4] Deiler goes into a lot of detail on how German names changed rapidly as soon as the family departed Neunkirchen due to French and later Spanish and English interpretations of how they heard the name pronounced. Dropping the "H" was common.[5]
Ambrose Heidel and his wife Anna Margaretha Schaf are the progenitors of the Heidel (Haydel) families along the German Coast of the Mississippi River in Louisiana. We haven't discovered their marriage record, however it was before they left Europe for Louisiana. The most extensive research on the origins of Ambros that this recorder is aware of is that of Albert J. Robichaux, Jr., published in a volume entitled: "German Coast Families-European Origins and Settlement in Colonial Louisiana". [3] Robichaux spent time in Europe going through church records as he attempted to trace the origins of the Germans who came to Louisiana and are found on the censuses or ships lists of 1720-1724. His volume has photos of some of the church documents he found, one of which is the baptism of one Ambros Heidel and the church tower at Neunkirchen where Ambros was baptized in 1702.
Another published work is that of J. Hanno Deiler published in 1909, however, Deiler didn't travel to Europe nor do extensive research on individuals as Robichaux did. [5]
Several researchers and genealogical societies have published transcriptions of Spanish legatos, church and civil records which greatly add to what we can state with some certainty. Glenn Conrad, Judith Riffel, the Diocese of Baton Rouge and Archdioces of New Orleans, the Louisiana Archives to name just a few. It seems that every month or so, more records become available online for easy viewing.
Robichaux tells us that he consulted three references in his search for the Heidel family:
The November 14, 1720 list of families aboard the ship, Les Deux Freres, at Lorient, France, where the origin of the family of Ambroize Aidle is given as "Saxe, or Saxony".

   The ship list for La Charente which on which Ambros' mother is found and her origin is given as "Neukirchen".

   The census of 1724 taken by French officials of the German Coast, where it is stated: 

No. 14: Ambroise Hesdel, 22, native of Neukirchen, Electorate of Mayence, Roman Catholic, baker; his wife; his brother of 18 years; his lame brother-in-law of 13 years; a pig; an arpent and a half or 16 verges of Germany or perches of France on which terrain he is since a year. He harvested about 15 barrels of rice. He is well enough at his ease. A good worker.
It wasn't until after three years of research and several trips to to Salt Lake City to examine microfilms of the registers of all towns named Neunkirchen and Neukirches that he found the correct place of origin. He describes the location of the town: "Neunkirchen is located about twelve kilometers from Miltenberg in the Catholic dioceses of Wurzburg." 49°42′14″N 09°15′52″E The German Coast of Louisiana was a region of early Louisiana settlement located above New Orleans, and on the east bank of the Mississippi River. Specifically, from east (or south) to west (or north), in St. Charles, St. John the Baptist, and St. James parishes of present-day Acadiana. It was largely settled by German immigrants. French: Côte des Allemands, German: Deutsche Küste)
Between 1702 and 1707, the baptism of four children were found in the Catholic registers of Neunkirchen which Robichaux identifies as the town of origin and notes that "Neukirchen and Neunkirchen are commonly used names, the former meaning "new church" and the latter "nine churches".
Ambros HEIDEL (a twin) was born and baptized on 15 November 1702. The godparents were Ambros HORN, blacksmith, and (no mention of godmother).

   KASPAR HEIDEL (a twin) was born and baptized on 15 November 1702. The godparents were Ambros HORN, blacksmith and (no mention of godmother).

   Johann Matthias HEIDEL was born and baptized on September 20, 1705. The godparents were Ambros HORN, blacksmith and (no mention of godmother).

   Johann Casparus HEIDEL was born and baptized on November 4, 1707. The godparents were Joannes Casparus (last name omitted) and (no mention of godmother).[6] 

As previously mentioned, Ambros arrived in Louisiana aboard the ship, Les Deux Freres, which sailed from Lorient, France. For some unknown reason, his wife departed later on the La Charente.[7]
From the time of arrival in Louisiana in 1721, the HEIDEL family was not mentioned in any document until the census of 1724. On January 1, 1726, the family of Ambroise HEIDEL was found at the German Village, and was entered on the census as follows: Ambroise Kia, wife, child , brother and brother-in law. The census of 1727 of the German Coast included Ambroise AIDET, wife, child, 2 engages.
In 1731 a census was conducted of the German occupants of Anceaux Outardes on the east bank of the river where we find Ambroise HEILD, wife, 2 children, 1 engage.[3]
Governor VAUDREUIL ordered that a census be taken of the residents of the German Coast after the Indian raids of 1749. Residing between HOUBRE and ALBERT was Ambrois HEYDE.[3]
The final census which included Ambroise HEIDEL was taken on June 25, 1766: Ambroise EDEL, his wife, 1 son over 15 years, 9 slave men, 5 slave women, 3 slave boys , 3 slave girls, 1 horse, 2 oxen, 5 cows, 5 young bulls and calves, 18 sheep, 10 pigs, 2 muskets, and 12 arpents of occupied land
Sailed on pest ship "Louisiana Garonne" January 24. 1721 with his wife and five children (GC L p99) Had 15 arpents along Miss River on German coast in 1731. Baker by trade. References: St . John Parish by Conrad Arch Diocese of NO. Vols.1,2,3, & 5
1724 German Villages census 1731 census East side of MS Falgoust History & Genealogy p. 202 Sainte-Jean-Baptiste des Allemands by Conrad pgs. 29, 239, 323-324. "The Settlement of the German Coast of Louisiana, Right bank of Mississippi"....The German village of Hoffen, 10 lieves above New Orleans, 1724.... .Ambros Heidel (Haydel), of Neunkirchen, Electorate of Mayence. Catholic. 22 yrs. old. Baker. His wife, his brother, 18 yrs.old, his brother-in-law, aged 13 and crippled. One and a half year on the place." Good worker, very much at ease." One pig. (Ambros's younger brothers mentioned for the last time in 1727. It is possible that he was murdered by the Natchez Indians with the family of his sister Barb.)

Commissioned the Whitney Plantation, originally known as Habitation Haydel- ?

http://whitneyplantation.com/history.html

Movie "12 Years a Slave" was filmed at Whitney Plantation

Haydel name was originally Heidel, Eatelle, Haidel, Haydelle

According to census: lived in Hoffen, 10 leagues above New Orleans, under the command of Sieur D'Arensbourg- 12 Nov 1724 Godfather was Ambros Horn, blacksmith.

Immigration: 14 November 1720, Ship Le Deux Freres from Lorient France. Mom came as a widow

Occupation: Baker? Thought he was a farmer

Residence: 12 November 1724, Hoffen, LA