Andrew Bates, of Lydd

Referred to as "The Zealot"

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"ANDREW of Lydd, although he apparently died in the parish of St. Nichol as in the nearby town of Romney, who with his wife is mentioned in his fat her's will, made his will Feb. 22, I532/3. In it he appoints William Tadl ow and Robert Robyns his executors and states that his children William, J ohn, Katherine and Thomas are not twenty years of age and that Katheri ne is not married. He makes bequests for the high altar and the reparati on of the church at Lydd, for the maintenance of "Jesus mass," for the purchase of two printed books called "Antiphonacs" for t he church, for dirge and mass at his burial and month's mind mass, for dirge and mass for his wife at her year's mind mass, for himself and wi fe at his year's and two year's mind mass. Bequests were made to his child ren and to other persons of lands and tenements, of horses, oxen, kine, he ifers, shoats and many ewes, of farming tools, of wheat, barley, oats a nd beans, of wearing apparel and beads.

Children:

1. Joan, mentioned in her grandfather's will; married James Robyns, J r.
2. Simon, probably never married; buried Sept. 25, I545.
3. William, died between Nov. I3, I563, and May 8, I564; married (2) O ct. I9, I562, Elizabeth Collyer, who after his death married his broth er Thomas Bate.
4. John, died between March I, I579/80, and May I3, I580.
5. Katherine.
6. Thomas, married (I) May 4, I558, Margaret Gervis; (2) June I8, I56 4, Elizabeth (Collyer) Bate, widow of his brother Willia m. She married as her third husband Jan. I8, I580/8I, John Hebblethwait e. Thomas died June I8, I578. "

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Genealogy.com New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Third Series, Volume I Author: William Richard Cutter This is the Third Series, Volume I of a four series set. It has recor ds of achievements of people from England, who have set up commonwealt hs in New England. About 6000 names included in this record. Bibliographic Information: Cutter, William Richard. New England Families G enealogical and Memorial: Third Series, Volume I. 1915. Reprint, Baltimor e: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1996. Page 274

   "... (II) John Bates, son of Thomas Bates...(III) Andrew Bates, son of Jo hn Bates, had four sons, and died at Lydd in 1533. (IV) John (2) Bates, s on of Andrew Bates..."

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New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Third Series, Volume II Author: William Richard Cutter This is the Third Series, Volume II of a four series set. It has recor ds of achievements of people from England, who have set up commonwealt hs in New England. About 6000 names included in this record. Bibliographic Information: Cutter, William Richard. New England Families G enealogical and Memorial: Third Series, Volume II. 1915. Reprint, Baltimor e: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1996. Page 1081

   "...(I) Thomas Bates...(II) John...(III) Andrew, son of John Bates, had fo ur sons. He died in 1533 at Lydd. (IV) John (2), son of Andrew Bates..."

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"...(I) Thomas Bates...(II) John...(III) Andrew, son of John Bates, di ed at Lydd in 1533. His will was dated February 22, 1532-33. Children: Sim on, William. John, Katherine, Thomas..."
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(The Bates Line). (IV) Thomas Bates, son of Andrew Bates (q. v.), lived in Lydd. He marri ed Mary (???). Children: James, mentioned below; Thomas and Andrew.
(V) James Bates, son of Thomas Bates, was baptized at Lydd, December 2, 15 62, died there, 1614. Children: Robert, Mary, Rachel, James, mentioned bel ow; Thomas, Edward, of Weymouth, Massachusetts; Clement, of Hingham, Massa chusetts; Isaac. Anna, Mathew, John, Joseph.
(VI) James (2) Bates, son of James (1) Bates, was born in England, Decemb er 2, 1582. When he emigrated to America he was fifty-three years ol d. He came with his two brothers, his wife Alice, then aged fifty-two, dau ghter Lydia, aged twenty, daughter Marie, aged seventeen, Margaret, twelv e, James, nine, sailing in the ship "Elizabeth." April 17, 1635. He was gi ven the prefix "Mr.," indicating superior rank socially. He became a husba ndman or planter at Dorchester, Massachusetts. He was admitted a freema n. December 7, 1636: was selectman in 1637, and afterward deputy to the ge neral court and ruling elder of the church. He died in 1655 and his wil l, proved February 17, 1655, bequeaths to wife Alice, sons Richard and Jam es and daughter Margaret Gibson. His widow died August 14, 1657. Childre n: Richard, of Lydd. England; James, mentioned below; Lydia, married Rog er Williams; Mary, married Hopestill Foster: Margaret, married Christoph er Gibson; James, mentioned below.
(VII) James (3) Bates, son of James (2) Bates, was born December 19, 162 4, at Lydd, county Kent, England, and came to America with his parent s. He settled at Haddam, Connecticut, with other Dorchester men, and marri ed Ann Withington. daughter of Henry Withington, of Dorchester, one of t he founders of Dorchester. Bates appears from the records to have go ne to England in 1655, doubtless to settle matters connected with his fath er's estate. He soon returned. He was one of the founders of the chur ch at Haddam. In 1669 he was in the adjoining town of Saybrook, Connecticu t. He was a deputy to the general court in 1671 and later. Children: Samue l, mentioned below; John; Hannah; James, born April 15, 1662; Margaret, ba ptized June 19, 1664; Mary, baptized March 6, 1666, married William Houg h; Elizabeth.
(VIII) Samuel Bates, son of James (3) Bates, was baptized at Dorchester, J une 18, 1648. He was a legatee in the will of his grandfather, Henry Withi ngton, as was his mother Ann. He lived at Saybrook and died there Decemb er 28, 1699. He married (second) May 2, 1676. Mary Chapman, daughter of Ro bert Chapman. Children, born at Saybrook: Samuel, April 4 or 16, 1677; Ann e, September 19, 1678; Silence, July 27, 1680; Samuel, November 8, 1682; J ames, mentioned below; Robert, December 23, 1686; Stephen, June 1, 1689; E phraim, May 29, 1692; Daniel, August 28, 1697.
(IX) James (4) Bates, son of Samuel Bates, was born at Saybrook, Decemb er 16, 1683. He lived at Saybrook and died at Haddam quarter, March 13, 17 18. His land was divided among his three sons. Children, baptized at Saybr ook: Sarah, April 9, 1711; Samuel, December 20, 1712; James, March 27, 171 5; John, mentioned below.
(X) John Bates, son of James (4) Bates, was baptized at Saybrook. Mar ch 3, 1717. He moved to Bedford and Granville. Massachusetts, where he di ed March 31, 1782. He married Edith Wood. His will was dated April 14, 177 7, and proved April 2, 1782, bequeathing to wife and children. Children: H annah, born July 28, 1742; John, November 20, 1743; Nathaniel, mentioned b elow; Jacob, November 2, 1746; David, March 4, 1750; Elizabeth, April 2 6, 1752; Edith, March 17, 1754.
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". ANDREW of Lydd, although he apparently died in the parish of St. Nichol as in the nearby town of Romney, who with his wife is mentioned in his fat her's will, made his will Feb. 22, I532/3. In it he appoints William Tadl ow and Robert Robyns his executors and states that his children Willia m, John, Katherine and Thomas are not twenty years of age and that Kather ine is not married. He makes bequests for the high altar and the reparati on of the church at Lydd, for the maintenance of "Jesus mass," for the purchase of two printed books called "Antiphonacs" for t he church, for dirge and mass at his burial and month's mind mass, for di rge and mass for his wife at her year's mind mass, for himself and wi fe at his year's and two year's mind mass. Bequests were made to his chil dren and to other persons of lands and tenements, of horses, oxen, kine, h eifers, shoats and many ewes, of farming tools, of wheat, barley, oats a nd beans, of wearing apparel and beads.
Children:

   Joan, mentioned in her grandfather's will; married James Robyns, J r.

   Simon, probably never married; buried Sept. 25, I545.

   William, died between Nov. I3, I563, and May 8, I564; married (2) O ct. I9, I562, Elizabeth Collyer, who after his death married his broth er Thomas Bate.

   John, died between March I, I579/80, and May I3, I580.

   Katherine.

   Thomas, married (I) May 4, I558, Margaret Gervis; (2) June I8, I56 4, Elizabeth (Collyer)

   Bate, widow of his brother William. She married as her third husband Ja n. I8, I580/8I, John Hebblethwaite. Thomas died June I8, I578."

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Andrew BATE

      Andrew Bate married between 31 Jul 1522 and 22 Feb 1532/3. He had

      6 children :

      John d between 1 Mar 1579/80 and 13 May 1580 William Simon

      Thomas b after 1511 Katherine Joan

      Source : Bates, George E. _Bates - Breed Ancestry_, Boston, MA,

      1975. Section A1. pp. 17-18.

      Andrew died in 1533 at Lydd, England, leaving 4 sons.

      Source : Harding, Louis B., _Bates_, unpublished family notes

      Newton Bates confirms that Andrew died in 1533 leaving the 6

      children named above, although he gives them in the order of

      Joan, Simon, WIlliam, John, Katherine, and Thomas.

      Source : Bates, Newton W., _Bates Genealogy : the Ancestors and

      Descendants of Asa Bates of Cummington, Mass._, 1904

      Wife of Andrew BATE, mother of John BATE

      This woman died between 31 Jul 1522 and 22 Feb 1532/3

      Source : Bates, George E. _Bates - Breed Ancestry_, Boston, MA,

      1975. Section A1, pp. 17-18.

   d. 1522-1533

   ch:   *John [Next Generation] http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pmcbride/rfc/l990.htm

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Type: Biography Note: 'Andrew, of Lydd, although he apparently died in the parish of St. Nicholas in the nearby town of Romney, who with his wife is mentioned in his father's will,[5] Will

Will: Date: BET 22 FEB 1532 AND 1533 Note: made his will Feb. 22, 1532/3. In it he appoints William Tadlow and Robert Robyns his executors and states that his children William, John, Katherine, and Thomas are not twenty years of age and that Katherine is not married. He makes bequests for the high altar and the reparation of the church at Lydd, for the maintenance of 'Jesus mass,' for the purchase of two printed books called 'Antiphonacs' for the church, for dirge and mass at his burial and mont's mind mass, for dirge and mass for his wife at her year's mind mass, for himself and wife at his year's and two year's mind mass. Bequests were made to his children and to other persons of lands and tenements, of horses, oxen, kine, heifers, shoats and many ewes, of farming tools, of wheat, barley, oats and beans, of wearing apparel and beads.'[6] Sources

WikiTree profile Bate-104 created through the import of EBENSTEIN-GRANGER.GED on Aug 19, 2011 by Merryann Palmer. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Merryann and others. Source: S174 Title: Ancestral Line for Eight Gnerations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1720-1820, with some records of his descendants Abbreviation: Bates 1943 Author: Bates, Albert Carlos Publication: Author, Hartford CT, 1943 Repository: #R18 Call Number: 929.2 B3184B Repository: R18 Name: Allen County Public Library Address: City: Ft Wayne State: IN ↑ Source: #S2324549830 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=millind&h=1069939&ti=0&indiv=... Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1491Birth place: Lydd, Kent, EnglandDeath date: 1532Death place: ↑ Source: #S2324739668 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=ukprobate&h=1116012&ti=0&indi... Note: ↑ Source: #S2324549830 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=millind&h=1069939&ti=0&indiv=... Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1491Birth place: Lydd, Kent, EnglandDeath date: 1532Death place: ↑ Source: #S2324549830 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=millind&h=1069939&ti=0&indiv=... Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1491Birth place: Lydd, Kent, EnglandDeath date: 1532Death place: ↑ Source: #S174 Page: p.9-10 ↑ Source: #S174 Page: p.9-10

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Andrews will was dated Feb. 22, 1533. Children: Simon, William, John, Kathrine, Thomas