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Arthur mac Aedan

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Birthplace: Dalriada, Argyll, , Scotland
Death: 590 (33-34)
Scotland
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Son of Áedán mac Gabráin, Rí na Dál Riata
Half brother of Domangart mac Áedán, Rí na Dál Riata; Eochaid Buide mac Aidan, Rí na Dál Riata; Conaing mac Aedan; Bran Dál Riata; Gartnait Dál Riata and 2 others

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About Arthur mac Aedan

[][[]][[]]There is a theory that he was was the inspiration for King Arthur. No proof, just a theory.

aka Arturius of MANANN; Prince in CAMELOT; Dux Bellorum of BRITONS against Picts and Saxons; (although never King, many believe this Prince Artur is the source of the Camelot legends)

http://www.legendofkingarthur.com/



Discussion 1 - Prince Arthur

Arthur of legend was only called a king after the 12th century cleric Geoffrey of Monmouth wrote a fabled account called "The History of the Kings of Britain", in which he called Arthur a king, placing him in the first half of the 6th century AD. Before Geoffrey's fictional story there are no historical references to a King Arthur - only references to a warlord Arthur and a Prince Arthur (559-603), the son of Aidan, King of the Scots of Dalriada. This Prince Arthur of Argyll (Prince of Scotland) married Gwenhwyfar De Bretagne (Guinevere of Brittany, daughter of Leo de Grance). "The two would be later known through the romanticization of actual history as King Arthur of the Round Table and his wife, Gwenivere." [12]. This opinion or interpretion is shared by many authors. [19] [21] [22] [23]

This Prince Arthur was the third of eight children (2nd son) of Aedan (Aidan/Aedham) Mac Gabran, King of Dalriada (b.525 r574-604) and Ygerna ferch Amlawdd of Wales. Aeden's parents were Gabran (Gabhran) of Argyll Mac Domangart (~500 - ~560) (King of Dalriada & Scots) and Lleian (Liuan) b~526 (a.k.a. Ingrain). [11] [15]

So how is Gwenwynwyn of The Scots [(b~565, ~575), wife of Cynan Garwyn (White Shanks), (~545-610), King of Powys (r~570-d.610) = the Blayney link] [17] related toPrince Arthur of Argyll (Prince of Scotland)?

The triad of claims are:

That Prince Arthur of Argyll (Prince of Scotland) (559-603) was the father of Gwenwynwyn of The Scots (b~565). At present I cannot locate the source of this claim, so it could even be a tranlocation error (copy and paste) on my part!!. There is an obvious arguement that this Arthur cannot be both the father of Gwenwynwyn of The Scots and Arthur Pendragon King Of Britons Dux Britanniae as "Arthur was married to Gwenhwyfar of Brittany, but she bore him no children". [12] p167. The "Welsh Triads" (Trioedd Ynys Prydein) tell a different story and list three Queens as well as three mistresses!: 109. The three wives of Arthur, who were his three chief ladies were:

     Gwenhwyvar, daughter of Gwythyr son of Greidiawl; 
     Gwenhwyvar, daughter of Gawrwyd Ceint; 
     and Gwenhwyvar, daughter of Ogyrvan Gawr (Gogfran the Giant).  110. The three chief mistresses of Arthur were: 
     Garwen ('Fair Leg'), daughter of Henyn of Tegyrn Gwyr and Ystrad Tywy; 
     Gwyl ('Modest'), daughter of Eutaw of Caerworgorn; 
     and Indeg, daughter of Avarwy the Tall of Radnorshire. [18]

So, other than the son Mordred (by his half-sister Morgawse in some stories, while others -including Geoffrey have him as his nephew), various stories and histories have Anir, Amhar, Llacheu, Gwydre, Loholt, Ilinot, and Borre as sons of Arthur, so there is plenty of room for a daughter who had Blayney descendants! That Gwenwynwyn of The Scots was the daughter of King Gabrain mac Domangart (Domangairt) of the Scots and his first wife Ingenach of the Scots. King Gabrain mac Domangart's second marriage was to Queen Lleian which produced King Aedan (Mac Gabhram) who married High Queen Ygerna Del Acqs (a.k.a. Igrain) and they had eight children including Arthur (Artuir). [15] [24a] This would make Gwenwynwyn an aunt of Arthur. However, most genealogies record Gwenwynwyn of The Scots as the daughter of Prince Domangart mac Aedàn of the Scots (b~559-596/603) [24b], although not all have Domangart as a son of Aedàn. Prince Domangart's parents were Aedàn (Aidan, Aeden) mac Gabràn "the Treacherous", King of Dalriada (b.525/33 r574-604/8) and Ygerna (Igrain) ferch Amlawdd of Wales [or Domelch verch Mælgwn of Gwynedd]. Aedàn's sons included Eochaid Find (b~560-590/6), Artúr (Arthur or Arturius) (559-603), Domangart (b~559-603) and Eochaid Buide (608-630) who survived to inherit the kingship, also Tuthal (Tuathal), Bran, Baithíne, Conaing, and Gartnait. Aedàn appeared to have had 2 or three marriages, which I cn't seem to find any consesus about.

Aedàn's parents were Gabran (Gabhran) of Argyll Mac Domangart (~500 - ~560) (King of Dalriada & Scots) and Lleian (Lluan, Ingenach) b~526 (a.k.a. Ingrain), daughter of Prince Brychan II and gt-grand daughter of Vortigern. This claim makes Gwenwynwyn the niece of Arthur. If not the daughter, Gwenwynwyn of The Scots could have been the niece or the aunt of the historical figure of Artur (Prince Arthur) of Argyll.

The main objection to this Arthur being THE King Arthur is that both Arthur and his brother Eochaid Find (The Fair) were killed at the Battle of Circin in 598 while their father King Aedan of Dalriada was still reigning (he abdicated his throne in favour of his son, Eochaid Buide about 606 and dies 609). [15]. Furthermore, the historical Arthur died after the Battle of battle of Camlan (537/9), before Prince Arthur was born! The well researched book "Arturius - A Quest For Camelot" by David F Carroll [22] gives fairly convincing support for placing Arthur and most of his battles further north and later in the 6th century. http//www. Kate Middleton's Royal Line King Arthur The Scottish Legend

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Arthur mac Aedan's Timeline

556
556
Dalriada, Argyll, , Scotland
590
590
Age 34
Scotland