Baetje Jans (van Hartenvelt)

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Baetje Jans

Also Known As: "Baetje Van Haert", "Baata", "Elizabeth", "Baltje Janse", "Lysbeth", "Batie"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: New Amsterdam, New Netherland
Death: New York, New York
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Denys Isaacszen Van Hartenvelt and Lysbeth Jans
Wife of Pieter Janzen Meyer and Andries Jansen
Mother of Marritie Meyer, (d.y.); Cornelia Meyer, (d.y.); Cornelia Timmer; Marytje “Maria” Meyer; Lysbeth Meyer and 2 others
Sister of Jannetie Denyse and Isaac Denys

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About Baetje Jans (van Hartenvelt)

Birth

Some state, without sourcing, that Batje was b: ABT 1665 in Haert, Gelderland, The Netherlands but a stronger theory revolves around the following baptism in New Amsterdam and subsequent associations in NA records: (see the discussion attached to this profile)

1662 Dec 03; Denys Isaacszen Van Hartvelt, Lysbeth; Lysbeth; Jan Dirckszen Meyer, Tryntie Grevenraet

~• Baetje and Lysbeth are equivalent in Dutch.

(The marriage of the couple baptizing Lysbeth: 1659 05 Dec; Denys van Hartevelt, van Wyck te Duurstede; Lysbeth Jans, van Amsterdam ~• from http://njgsbc.org/files/BCFamilies/BCFam-V.pdf)

first years

Her mother seems to have been an orphan who was shipped from the poor house in Amsterdam to work/live/marry on behalf of the DWIC. (see mother's profile)

Her father was a house carpenter who also assisted in the building of a Manhattan wind (or horse) mill. It is unknown whether the family owned their own home. It is a guess that they rented near Broadway (Heere Straat) where the associated families of the Meyers and the Grevenraets lived and owned several properties.

Baetje/Lysbeth would have known her future husband Pieter as they grew up near each other on the streets near the fort.

Marriage

  • 1678, 16 Jan; Pieter Meyer, jm van N. Yorke; Batje Jans, jd van Haert in Gelderlt

Batje/Lysbeth employed the name Van Hartvelt/van Haerdt like following Denys' tradition..My theory is that when her name was recorded at marriage that it was written down as van Hart-evelt to mimick her father's name, even though he signed his name Dionys Isaacqs, not employing the <van> addition. The Jans would then come from her mother, theoretically because of a falling-out of her parents. Her father was known to brawl in taverns...

Baetje married Pieter Meyer and lived on Marckvelt Straat (Marketfield Street) when Reverend Hendricus Selyns recorded the names of all his parishioners with their home addresses in 1686. (source: Historic Homes and Institutions and Genealogical and Family ..., Volume 1 by William Smith Pelletreau)

http://books.google.com/books?id=5WxoOvnQgMQC&pg=PA40&lpg=PA40&dq=T...

Children

  1. 1678 Nov 08; Pieter Mayer, Batie Jans; Catharina; Jan Dirckszen Mayer, Lysbeth Jans

The location of "Haert" may be Aerdt a village on the Rhine in Netherlands that was a crossroads of earlier commerce before the river bed was redirected.

"Aerdt is a village in the Dutch province of Gelderland. It is located in the municipality Rijnwaarden, about 20 km northeast of the city of Nijmegen, (very) close to the (modern) German border. Aerdt has a population of around 985."(source: Wikipedia (2015)

parents

(see discussion)

There is now a <GENI DISCUSSION> on this at Buren, Gelderland : Immigrants to New Netherland

There is also this record:

6. PIETER3 MEYER (JAN DIRKSZEN2, DIRCK1) was born March 25, 1657 in New Amsterdam, NY, and died Unknown. He married BATJE VAN HAERT January 16, 1677/78 in Dutch Reform Church, New York City, Kings Co., NY.. She was born Unknown, and died Unknown.

Notes for PIETER MEYER: Baptized, Reformed Dutch Church of New Amsterdam, NY 1657, 25 Mar; Jan Dirckszen de Meyer, Tryntie Grevenraets; Pieter; Grietie de Riemer

Children of PIETER MEYER and BATJE VAN HAERT are:

	i.	 	CATHARINA4 MEYER, b. Abt. 1678; d. Unknown; m. SACHARIAS WEEKS, 1696; d. Unknown.
	ii.	 	MARRITJE MEYER, b. Abt. 1680; d. Unknown, Died young.
	iii.	 	CORNELIA MEYER, b. Abt. 1681; d. Unknown, Died young.
	iv.	 	MARIA MEYER, b. February 1686/87; d. April 28, 1774.

• list of ship captains: see Jans http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/mm_shipamny.shtml

v. PiETER," bap. March 25, 1657; ni. Jan. 16, 1678, Batje {Betty-, or Elizabeth'] Jans, Van Haert in Gelderland. She joined the Dutch Church in New York, Feb. 26, 1673, while it appears he was never a member. In 1686 they were living in Marketfield Street. In 1703, his family consisted of one male, one female, and five children.* He had issue bap. in the Dutch Church in New York : i. Catharina,^ bap. Nov. 8, 1678 ; m. August 9, 1696, Zacharias Weeks^ from New England. 2. Marritie,^ bap. Jan. 20, 1680 ; died young. 3. Cornelia,^ bap. Oct. 6, 1681 ; died young. 4. Cornelia, bap. Dec. 10, 1682 ; she is probably the Cornelia Meyer who m. April 23, 1704, Cornelus Timmer or Timber, who was prob. son of Wydt Cornelis Timmer and Jannetje Joris Van Alst. She became a widow, and married second, Jan. 17, 1718, Michiel Bas- SETT, and was again a widow the same year. She had no children by either husband bap. in the Dutch Church in New York. 5. Maryken,^ [Maria] bap. Feb. 13, 1687; m. June 15, 1707, Dr. Johannes Van BuREN,f from Amsterdam. 6. Lysbeth,' bap. Sept. 28, 1690; m. 1711,

  • Valentine's History of New York, p. 356.
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Baetje Jans (van Hartenvelt)'s Timeline

1662
December 3, 1662
New Amsterdam, New Netherland
December 3, 1662
Dutch Ref. Church, New Amsterdam, New Netherland

1662 Dec 03; Denys Isaacszen Van Hartvelt, Lysbeth; Lysbeth; Jan Dirckszen Meyer, Tryntie Grevenraet
DRC records per Billard

It is interesting that the witnesses are the parents of the baptized child'd future husband: Pieter Meyer

1680
January 20, 1680
New York, New York
1681
October 6, 1681
New York, New York
1682
1682
1687
February 13, 1687
Dutch Reformed Church, New York
1690
September 28, 1690
New York, New York
1692
October 26, 1692
New York, New York
1694
1694
New York, New York, United States