Ber Goldschmidt

OBS: Faderskabet er kun en antagelse, og det må påvises at denne mand faktisk er fader til Joseph og Moses! Noget som taler mod dette er at Josef Fischer i http://www.rosekamp.dk/DBL_All/DBL_8_text.pdf omtaler denne slægt som en anden og tidligere af de tre Goldschmidt-slægter der indvandrede fra Hamburg.

http://www.steinheim-institut.de/cgi-bin/epidat?function=Ins&sel=hh...

http://tom.brondsted.dk/genextracts/?colbranch&sid=i10&ged=2&chpt=1...

Hier ist begraben | ein Mann, betagt |3| und aufrecht, der geehrte Herr Ber, Sohn des | Vorstehers und Leiters, des geehrten Herrn Bendit | SeGaL G(old)sch(midt), verschieden |6| und begraben Tag 3, 8. Nissan | 537 der kleinen Zählung. | Seine Seele sei eingebunden in das Bündel des Lebens

(Antagelse at dette er Moses og Josephs far af Odd-Wiking Rahlff) ud fra hans kones gravskrift, samt at begge sønner har "Berend" som mellemnavn. Da hedder faderen sandsynligvis Berend selv: Og det er den eneste "Ber" + Goldschmidt der er omtalt i Epidat i Hamburg. Alle Goldschmidt registreret i Epidat fra før 1800 kommer fra Hamburg.(32 stk)

Altona lå indtil krigen i 1864 under Danmark.

Om "Segal": http://www.segal.org/name/index.html

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Allan Falk fra JS skriver 130110 i epost til Odd-Wiking Rahlff:

"Lidt kan jeg da hjælpe med. Desværre ikke vedrørende Joseph Berend Goldschmidt, udover at jeg formoder, at han er bror til Moses Berend Goldschmidt. Jeg har forsøgt at identificere deres far – som formodes at hedde Berend Goldschmidt – gennem en kollega i Hamburg, idet både hun og jeg har aner i Goldschmidt-slægten i Hamburg. Men eftersom der tilsyneladende ikke er kilder til fødslerne af Joseph og Moses, har det ikke kunnet lade sig gøre."

Og 131011:

"Hej Odd,

Problemet er, at der er flere muligheder, jeg henviser til følgende nr. i DJGDB:

1. 53.076 Ber Moses Goldschmidt

2. 61.827 Beer Moses Goldschmidt

3. 45.618 Berend Moses Goldschmidt (som kan være = en af ovennævnte)

4. 62.055 Berend Goldschmidt (do. do.)

Jeg kan ikke komme det nærmere, beklager.

Venlig hilsen Allan"

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"The rise of the absolute monarchies in Central Europe brought numbers of Jews, mostly of Ashkenazi origin, into the position of negotiating loans for the various courts, giving rise to the phenomenon of *Court Jews. The most famous and most active of them in financial affairs were, in the second half of the 17th and the beginning of the 18th century, Leffmann *Behrends in Hanover, Behrend *Lehmann in Halberstadt, Bendix Goldschmidt in Hamburg, Aaron Beer in Frankfurt, and Samuel *Oppenheimer and Samson *Wertheimer in Vienna."

(Kilde: Jewish Virtual Library: "Banking and Bankers" , http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0003_... )

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Mulig at finde noget her?

"The Goldschmidt Family of Germany":

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Mosaic Religious Community Table of Contents [ skjul] 1 History 2 Search options 3 Printed literature 4 In the archives 5 External links

History

Jews had originally not allowed to come to Denmark. Before 1600, there are Jews in Altona , and they get their privilege confirmed in 1641 by Christian IV, like Christian IV permit Jewish settlement in Rendsburg and Friedrichstadt as part of its industrial policy. In the course of 18 century also arise Jewish congregations in the kingdom : Copenhagen, Fredericia and other towns. Genealogy in Jewish families will always be a challenge:

Secondly, the Jewish communities first from 1814 to keep records of births, marriages and deaths following the same recipe as in the national church parish registers. However, there are burial records of Copenhagen from 1771; Julius Margolinsky: "Jewish deaths in Denmark 1693-1976" summarizes in a book, what records and tombstone says. There are birth records before 1814, but only with information about child secondly, research will inevitably lead one beyond its borders.

To understand the sources, you should know that there are religious differences between the askenaniske German Jews and the Sephardic Portuguese Jews. these differences affect how the churches organize themselves and for who marries whom Search options

Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark gathers experience with genealogy of Jewish families. JGS cooperate with Hamburger Gesellschaft für jüdische Genealogie eV , which also covers the [Altona] There is established a Jewish Genealogical Database - membership of JGS required to access the database. Margolinsky book and thorough research on the Jewish cemeteries is why Tom Brøndsted database Jewish funerals, as far as possible, linking information on the grave with a photo and mark the location on the cemetery. If you want to use Jewish Funerals, you must understand Margolinsky listing of names: Wallich, Henriette, for Cantor, g Nathan Emanuel, d 1893,13.5: Henriette Cantor, wife of Nathan Emanuel Wallich, died 13.5.1893

Married Jewish men 1735-1810, list of paid kopulationspenge Copenhagen City Archives ; information about the spouse is available through the Jewish Genealogical Database

Printed literature

Julius Margolinsky: Jewish deaths in Denmark 1693-1976. Copenhagen 1978 ("Margoteket")

Lausten, Martin Schwarz: The Pious and the Jews. Attitudes toward Judaism and Jews in Denmark in pietismens time (1700-1760). Copenhagen 2000

Lausten, Martin Schwarz: Information in Church and Synagogue. The relationship between Christians and Jews in the Danish Enlightenment (1760-1814). Copenhagen 2002 Martin Schwarz Lausten books are not primarily genealogy, but contains an approximate complete Registry of converted Jews until the 1814th Martin Schwarz Lausten has also published books on the period after the 1814th

Thyge Svenstrup & Vello Helk: The Mosaic Religious Community in Copenhagen with disused Religious Community in the province. Registry. Copenhagen 1993: the records from the Mosaic Religious Community, handed over to the Provincial Archives of Zealand in 1968 and the RA in 1981. Information is now also available on Daisy

Solomon, J. & J. Fischer (eds.): memorial in honor of the 100-anniversary of the device, 29 March 1814, Copenhagen in 1914 with the reproduction of selected records

At the archives

Ward Protocols (similar to "church books") Switching Protocols ; switching system was an internal matter until 1814: German Jews Portuguese Jews

Applications for Royal. Passage Letters (comes closest to the residence); applications often contain references to relatives and other compounds that have already established themselves in Denmark reprints / private press by J. Fischer and others: eg pedigrees With thanks to Tom Brøndsted

External links Mosaic Religious Community: Religion Jewish Encyclopedia JewishGen Scandianvia Database Danish Jewish Museum, with collections , registered in the Heritage Agency database

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