Charles Simms Horley, Free Settler “Asiatic” 1849

BIRTH & BAPTISM Yorkshire, Bishop's Transcripts Of Baptisms First name(s) Charles Last name Horley Baptism year 1824 Birth year 1823 County Yorkshire (East Riding) Country England Baptism place Hull, Holy Trinity Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Father's first name(s) Abraham Birth date 04 Dec 1823 Baptism date 05 Apr 1824 Event type Baptisms

See docs for Charles baptism record from church register. (Thank you Graham). Abraham is recorded as a labourer in 1824 and a coal porter in 1841.

CHARLES IN YORKSHIRE No Horley is registered to vote in 1834, which tells us that they did not own or rent property sufficient to meet the property qualification.

Neither Charles nor Abraham is recorded in a trades directory for any of the years that Charles lived in Kingston upon Hull, even though Charles seems to be very active in the early labour movement amongst carpenters and joiners. Probably they worked for other people, who are in the directories, or there was a cost to being in the directories that they were unable or unwilling to pay.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Shambles Square, Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

Abraham Horley Male 50 1791 Coal porter Not born Yorkshire Elizabeth Horley Female 50 1791 Yorkshire, England Charles Horley Male 15 1826 Yorkshire, England William Horley Male 12 1829 Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Horley Female 10 1831 Yorkshire, England Fanny Horley Female 5 1836 Yorkshire, England

[The places where Abraham Horley lived and worked in Hull were obliterated by the Luftwaffe in WW2.]

There follows a substantial history of activism in the developing trades union movement by Mr Horley of the Hull Joiners, and Mr Horley the carpenter of Adelaide, SA, as well as Charles Horley of Williamstown Vic. The threads connecting this story are slender, but, I think, strong enough to support the proposition that this is Charles Simms Horley as an early progenitor of the labour movement in England and Australia. More detailed research might establish the connections more securely, but I am sufficiently confident to make the claim. Very proud to have him as an ancestor.

Northern Star and Leeds Examiner 14 September 1844 CHARLES HORLEY, HULL. -- There would hardly a good follow from the publication of his letter. It would only provoke another one from Mr Harper; and thus the discussion might be continued without either interest or advantage to the reader. The fact that Mr Horley maintains the truth of his report will be sufficient to be made known.

Northern Star and Leeds Examiner 8 February 1845 JOINERS HALL A public meeting of the Joiners of Hull was held at the Talbot Inn, Seal Lane, on Saturday evening last, to consider the propriety of a strike for an advance of wages; and also the necessity of sending a delegate to the forthcoming National Trades Conference. Mr Horley addressed the meeting at some length, proving the necessity for a national union of all trades, as the only means of protecting labour of all classes against the incessant inroads of capital, and middles-class made laws. Mr H read the correspondence between Mr Drury of Sheffield and T S Duncombe Esq and concluded by moving the following resolution: -- That in the opinion of this meeting the only efficient means of affording protection to labour of all classes is by a national organisation and consolidation of the various trades of this country; etc etc. The motion was well supported and carried. Mr Horley then further moved re membership and contributions to support their work. [What a pity there are not more articles to give context to these two]

I keep running across Horleys in Hull who are possibly related but not clear how unless Abraham had more sons, or there are other Horley families there. Charles and Henry are recurring names, but there is also a Thomas. There is also a George Hawley, a soldier from Surrey, who I am fairly confident is Abraham's brother.

MIGRATION Charles Horley arrived in Adelaide, 26 December 1849 aboard "Asiatic", travelling 'steerage'. There is an article showing Charles travelled 'Intermediate', so not sure which is correct. The passenger list resolves that one. He and Eliza were both in steerage. Charles was born in 1823 at Kingston upon Hull Yorkshire England and was a carpenter by trade. Eliza was born in 1827 at Lewis (Lewes) Sussex England. They met each other on the ship coming to Australia, and married on 26th January 1850 in Adelaide. From there they moved to Melbourne, Victoria. They had 3 children Fanny born in Williamstown in 1852. George William born in Williamstown in 1854 and Eliza (born in Williamstown on 15th July 1856 and died 2nd November 1942 aged 86). Charles marriage certificate for his second marriage notes 4 other children born to Eliza, who did not survive childhood.

Eliza Bunting, his future wife, travelled 'steerage' to Adelaide, aboard "Asiatic" on the same voyage.

CHARLES IN ADELAIDE Adelaide Times 27 Dec 1849 SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE Passengers per Asiatic.—T. G. Williams, Esq., lady and five children, and three servants; James Davis Williams, Esq.; Dr. Maurau and lady, in the cabin. Mr Jonathan Anisley, Mrs Elisabeth Anisley and three children ; Mr and Mrs William Anisley, Mr William Heath, in the intermediate. And the following in the steerage: — William Chapman wife and four children, William Wigrell, Ann Lane, James King, John King, Charles Horley John Hill. Maria Ellis,Thomas Gandy. Edward Barker. John Ditchburn. James Bonnin, Chailes Hards, William B. Corston, George Keene, Phillip Nation, James Rogeis and wife, James Fellet and wife, John De Boos wife and three children, Thomas Ellis and wife, Thomas Perris and wife and three children, Mary Ann Bonin and four children, Mary James, Otto Hawkins wife and three children, William Ttustone and wife, John Lomax wife and nine children, Miss Harris, Charles Burton, Thomas Hill, John Smith, H. Marsden, James Warson, Eliza Bunting, George Spence. Charles D. Siptom, Charles Lawson wife and child, R. Strike, J. W. Allison wife and two children, John Checkley wife and six children, Harvey Bearcroff, John Williams and wife, Thomas Twiggs and wife, Fraser Beavis, George Chard and wife, Thomas Bate, William Henry Mouse Isaac, Thomas Robinson wife and child, David King Haslop, James Hill and wife, William Twigg, William Hooper, Aona Anderson, Louis Armand. Chavanne, Joseph Ryder wife and four children, William Staff. Jane Scotchmer, Mary Ann Leech, Elizabeth Hackett, Emma Hackett, — Richardson, — Richardson, Rev.Henry Chatham wife and three children, G. Stanley, Frederick Pain, Thomas Clark, Sarah Griffin, William Gore, George Gore, Jabez Sweet, Geore Hubbard, Robert Mackay, Charles Tyler, Amelia Tyler, Thomas Haylmore, George Walier, Letitia Harrall and child. This ship was packed to the gills.

There were complaints in the Adelaide papers about migrants getting assisted passage to South Australia, and then running off to Port Phillip soon after their arrival. They couldn't get assisted passage to Port Phillip so scammed the South Australian scheme to get to Melbourne. I don't know if Charles and Eliza fitted this accusation, but they were not long in Adelaide. As the following reports show, the SA government wasn't too interested in looking after the valuable craftsmen and tradesmen they spent a lot of money recruiting.

South Australian Register LAW AND POLICE COURTS Charles Horley, carpenter, is witness in a case brought by his employer, Walter Smith, builder, against a mercer for whom Charles was building shop fittings.

Adelaide Observer 19 April 1851 [This is likely Charles since he seems to be much involved with the Oddfellows] Mr. Horley and Mr. Langley applied for a summons against Messrs. Mart and Harris for £3 2s. 6d., a subscription raised for the relief of a widow by an Oddfellows' Lodge, of which they were the representatives, and put into their hands, to be kept for her benefit. Each party refused the liability. The Magistrates said the woman herself must summon the parties.

South Australian Register April 1851 LOYAL DUKE OF YORK LODGE. Ancient Independent Order of Oddfellows, Port Adelaide. THE ANNIVERSARY of the Order will be celebrated by the Lodge at MRS BARNETT'S, JERUSALEM COFFEE HOUSE, by a DINNER, on EASTER MONDAY EVENING, at 7 o'clock. The Company of all Brothers and Friends who can conveniently attend is requested. Tickets, 3s. each, may be had of the Stewards, Brothers Thomas Smith (Britannia Hotel), John Klees, Samuel New ton, George Brock, and John Hocken. CHARLES HORLEY, Secretary. [Is this our Charles, or someone else entirely?]

There is a series of meetings of tradesmen men held in Port Adelaide related to conditions for workers, and the 'monopolist' behaviour of businessess that keep prices high. I am now fairly confident that the Mr Horley, a carpenter, so active in these meetings, is our Charles, and that he is a vigorous advocate for the co-operative movement taking off among tradesmen (mechanics) in England. SA had advertised to attract skilled tradesmen to the colony, but the 'colonial aristocracy' of farmers and businessmen exercised control over conditions, and were not willing to either increase wages or reduce profits to enable 'mechanics' to have a reasonable standard of living. The colony was set up privately, rather than by the British government, and conditions were not the same as in other Australian colonies. It may have been this situation that led the Horleys to leave SA for Victoria soon after these meetings. It is annoying for researchers when people are so well known locally that they are referred to only as Mr and Mrs. It does mean, though, that the reporter doesn't have several people of the same name which he has to distinguish. So, as this man is the only Horley about, and is once referred to as a carpenter, I believe it is Charles. I have only provided excerpts for all but one, but Trove has the full reports for anyone interested in Charles' politics or colonial politics.

South Australian Register of 28 March 1851 has a long report of a POLITICAL MEETING OF MECHANICS AT THE PORT, in which Mr Horley is an active participant. The expression 'mechanic' applied to what we would call tradesmen, and, as a carpenter, Charles definitely fitted that description. He is probably the Mr Horley in these meetings.

Adelaide Times 16 June 1851 [I am transcribing this one in full because it shows Charles actively involved in setting up a colonial institution in SA, one of many similar organisations tradesmen established across the colonies to provide mutual support and self education. There was a mechanics institute in most towns by 1900.] PORT ADELAIDE MECHANICS' INSTITUTE. AN Adjourned Public Meeting was held at the Court House, Port Adelaide, on Friday evening, the 13th instant, to receive the report of the Committee appointed to draw up rules and regulations for the management of the Port Adelaide Mechanic's Institution and Library. The chair was taken by R. F. Newland, Esq., at half-past seven o'clock, at which time the room was literally well filled, not withstanding the rain, which was poring down in torrents, and, after the Secretary had read the report, the following resolutions were passed, it being previously resolved that the Society commence its operations as soon as the sum of one hundred pounds is received by the Treasurer in donations, and that one hundred members have paid their subscriptions. Proposed by Mr Anthony, seconded by Mr Cray— That the report now read be received, and the rules and regulations as proposed by the Committee appointed to frame them be used by the Port Adelaide Mechanic's institution and Library, Proposed by Mr Todd, and seconded by Mr Walter Smith—That the thanks of this meeting be given to the Gentlemen of the Committee for their kindness and attention in framing the said rules and regulations. Moved by Mr Coleman, and seconded by Mr Dallison— That the management of the Society be vested in the following gentlemen, and that the first annual election of officers in accordance with Rule No. 23, take place on the 1st July, 1852 :— Vice Presidents: Dr Davey, R. F. Newland, Esq., J.P., and Dr Duncan, J.P. Committee: Rev. Mr Bayfield, E. Q. Collison, Esq., Capt. Scott, G. Coppin, Esq., Rev. Mr Hodge, Messrs Fletcher, Roberts, Churchus, Hooley, Moggridge, Conway, and Wald. Auditors : Henry Giles, Esqr, and John Newman, Esq. Trustees: R. R. Torrens, Esq., Capt. Henry Simpson, William Giles, Esq., and S. R, Clarke, Esq. Bankers—The Union Bank. Solicitor—W. F. Lamb, Esq. Secretary—Mr George Paqualin. Moved by Mr Henry Giles, and seconded by Mr Walter Smith— That the Committee be instructed to make application to the Government for a grant to assist the Mechanics' Institution at the Port, either in money or land. Proposed by Mr Jones, and seconded by Mr Smith— That a Sub-Committce be appointed, and authorised to. take measures for the immediate commencement of the business of the Institution, so soon as the funds are received in accordance with a resolution passed in Committee, and that they engage promises and puehase books. The following Gentlemen were then chosen a Sub-Committee:—Messrs Coppin, Fletcher, Churchus, Horley, and Conway ; and after a vote of thanks to the Secretary, on the motion of Mr Torrens, seconded by Dr Duncan, and also the Chairman, proposed by Mr Horley, and seconded by Mr Smith, the meeting adjourned.

Adelaide Times 30 June 1851 MEETING TO LOWER THE PRICE OF PROVISIONS AT THE PORT. [Another well attended political meeting of workers in Port Adelaide - excerpt only] " That if a Joint Stock Association be formed, they do purchase carcases instead of cattle." This was seconded by Mr Horley. As he anticipated great difficulties would be thrown in their way in dealing with the stockholder, the wholesale butchers being so intimately acquainted with them, he would like some person to take upon himself to supply the public at a fair and reasonable profit. A Committee was then formed and Mr Horley proposed— " That the Committee meet on. Thursday evening next, at 7 o'clock, when all parties wishing to subscribe are requested to attend and pay a deposit." This was seconded by Mr J. R. White.

South Australian Register 4 July 1851 Another vigorous PUBLIC MEETING AT THE PORT wherein Mr Horley, a carpenter, plays a great part. Surely this must be Charles. The article is too long to transcribe, but - PUBLIC MEETING AT THE PORT. Last night a meeting of the working classes was held at the Masonic Hall, White Horse Cellar, to consider which was the best candidate for their suffrages to-day. About 300 'roughs' and others assembled, and a carter, named Lindsay Craig, was voted into the chair; who after explaining the objects of the meeting, and giving his opinions on the two candidates, his own being evidently in favour of Captain Hall, called on the meeting to express their sentiments. Mr. Newman said he was a hard-working man, and wished to address them. He had read in the Bible that ' No man could serve two masters,' and therefore Mr. Giles could not serve them properly; but Captain Hall could. He wished to inform them that, though a placard had been circulated, bearing the inscription ' Slaves of the Company vote for your master,' Captain Hall's Committee deprecated it, and he had torn down all that he saw. He then said Mr. Giles had promulgated a horrible untruth— that his clerk, Mr. Abercrombie, had threatened not to employ carters who would not vote for Captain Hall. Mr. Brock and Mr. Pepper here urged the claims of Mr. Giles, the bitter speaker making a brilliant speech. Mr. John Germain, lighterman, said he served under the Company at Kangaroo Island, and could declare that they were very ill treated by Mr. Giles; and the Company would not give him a passage from the Island. He was a fifteen year-old colonist. He had brought over goods for Mr. Giles from the Island, and had never yet been paid for them. (Uproar.) He thought they wanted to do the same thing here as there— have it all their own way, lower the wages, and keep all the profit to themselves. (Loud cheers.) Mr. C. Calton said he was a young Portonian. It was a most important question they had come to discuss. They were met to enquire which was the best candidate. As the servant of the Company, Mr. Giles is either acting under orders from his masters at home or not. it he is, can no properly represent your special interests? (Cries of ' No! no! ') If he is not, it must be clear that he must forfeit his situation in the Company. (Cheers and disapprobation.) Mr. Horley (a carpenter) hoped they would not entertain the prejudices existing between the candidates. There are worse prejudices about Hall ; but he would not mention them or attend to them, but simply deal with the principles advocated by both candidates. He thought if men of Captain Hall's principles were sent into the Council, their children would curse them in their graves. (Great uproar.) The rest of the speaker's address was received with so many cries of 'No, no!' 'Yes, yes! ' True!' ' False! etc Later in the meeting - Mr. Newman said Mr. Horley was a monopolist (of their time), and Mr. Haddy had gone inconsequence. Horley — Ah! I want to say 20 words about monopoly. (Cries of ' No, no.') [It seems that Charles was very much involved in radical working class politics at this time]

Adelaide Observer 5 July 1851 [Excerpt only] HIGH PRICE OF PROVISIONS. Mr. Horley thought the cattle-holders would not sell to any one appointed from such an Association as this. In seconding Mr. Pepper's proposition, he would remark that the spirit of monopoly is the order of the day in all trades here, and he thought this Association would serve to break up this monopoly. He reminded the working men that they must support any tradesmen who thus sold at a cheap rate, otherwise the monopolists would have it all their own way again, and the cheap tradesmen be ruined. The amendment, that carcases instead of cattle should be purchased, was then put and carried.

August 1851, several articles re Police Court Port Adelaide, in which Charles accuses Ann Abell of assaulting him with a brick and a hammer while he was changing a lock (for the landlord). She was fined 1s. with costs.

South Australian Register describes Charles Horley as "a builder" in November 1851, shortly before he and Eliza relocate to Melbourne.

The Adelaide Observer describes Charles Horley as "an occasional gardener" in August 1856, but must be another person because our Charles was in Victoria long before that.

Letters were still arriving in Adelaide for Charles and Eliza in Oct 1853, and September 1854.

CHARLES IN VICTORIA Charles Horley Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1856 Subdistrict: Williamstown State: Victoria District: Williamstown Country: Australia Household Members: Charles Horley Carpenter, Residence Centre Road (See docs) Eligibility Household, a house in Centre Road

In January 1856 Charles was signatory to a petition - And the petitioners pray as follows: "That your Excellency will take into your favorable consideration the prayer of this their petition, and proclaim the said district of Williamstown a Municipal District within the meaning of the Act of Council before mentioned."

Williamstown Trade Circular Sat 6 Sept 1856 A. I. O. Odd Fellows. Philanthropic Lodge MEET Every Alternate Monday Evening, at Half-past Seven o'clock, at the Lodge Room, Commercial Hotel. 99 Lecture Lodge on Monday Evening, Sept. 15th, at which the attendance of all Brothers is requested. CHAS. HORLEY, P. G., Lecture Master. [I suspect it is our Charles]

Williamstown Trade Circular 6 Sept 1856 [This is an excerpt from a long article reporting a political meeting in Williamstown. There are several Mr Horleys in Victoria at this time, but Charles seems to be the only one in Williamstown, before they moved to the gold fields, so it might well be him. Charles was a public figure due to his involvement in the Masons] Mr. HORLEY asked if he (Mr. F.) would vote for the retiring pensions? Mr. FOSTER would vote for them. If men left their professions to undertake Government work, it was only right, and just, and proper that they should receive compensation when they left office. Some men were not entitled to it; but there were others who were, and public faith should not be broken by a people who had the boon to exercise that power. It was not a pension for good conduct; it was compensation for actual loss. The Home Government had granted the New Constitution on the express condition that public faith was to be observed by the Government officers. Some of the best political men of England would be unable to sit in Parliament without such pensions. It was a difficult matter in the Australian Colonies to get good men even with these provisions.

Victoria, Australia, Rate Books, 1855-1963 Occupier Name: Charles Horley Residence Date: 1858 Residence Place: Williamstown, Victoria, Australia Owner Name: Albenna Lindo

First name(s) Chas Last name Horley Year 1862 Event date 11 Apr 1862 Role Defendant Court Gisborne Courts Description Victoria Petty Sessions Registers Sessions date 7 Feb 1862-24 Aug 1863 Archive reference 2410/P0/Vol.240 [I don't think this is our Charles, however it is always possible that he and Eliza went to Castlemaine via Gisborne and the eastern goldfields]

ELIZA DIES AT CASTLEMAINE (?) DEATH Eliza Last name Horley Age 39 Sex Female Birth year 1826 Death year 1865 Father's name Bunting John Mother's name Eliza Death place - State Victoria Registration number 8315

Mount Alexander Mail 3 Nov 1865 A case of sudden death occurred on Thursday evening, in Campbell-street-, between Barker and Kennedy-street. From inquiry, we learn that a married woman, named Horley, who was for some time servant there, was observed by her little daughter to have a peculiar appearance, and she called the attention of her father to it. He stated that he immediately went to her and gave her some water, which she drank greedily, and finding she got, no better went for medical help, calling on Dr Langford who rendered such aid as the case seemed to require, but the woman died twenty; minutes after his arrival. An inquest will be held on the body to-day at 9 o'clock.

Mount Alexander Mail 4 Nov 1865 The inquest held into the cause of the death of Mrs Horley, of Campbell's-street, whose sudden decease we recorded yesterday, showed that the fatality arose from the bursting of a blood vessel in the brain.

Mount Alexander Mail 22 April 1869 EIGHT HOURS DAY ANNIVERSARY Mr Horley (surely this is Charles!) spoke earlier in the meeting. Here he is at the end. Mr Horley, in responding, acknowledged the flattery that had been paid him for his organisation and bringing together the tradesmen of the town, but he felt amply repaid for all the sacrifices he may have made of time in bringing about so successful a gathering as the one they had to-night. It was his earnest wish that every trade should be able to follow the example they had set. Following the toasts there were songs and recitations and the greatest good feeling and harmony prevailed. [Charles has obviously been politically active outside the headlines, so no records available for his work in Castlemaine/Mt Alexander]

Victorian Government gazette 1869 page 730 Charles Horley is contracted to "make repairs to police quarters, Castlemaine" Cost L132

DITTO 1870 page 1160 Charles Horley "Additional works under contract 69/1236: Repairs to Police Quarters, Castlemaine". Value L2

Email from Paul Horsnell, grandson of Charles Horley, 2019: "My father always told me when ever we encountered the rail line to Bendigo, that Charles Horley grandfather was a foreman during its construction. I have not been able to check because railway records seem not to exist."
From an obituary for Charles' daughter, Eliza Horsnell "Mrs. Horsnell spent her girlhood
days at Castlemaine, her father (the late Mr. Chas. Horley) being the foreman on ' the railway between Melbourne and Bendigo." This would tend to confirm Paul's recall - Paul is Charles' grandson and inherited some of his tools.

Mt Alexander Mail 14 March 1871 Mail for Charles Horley is waiting collection.

Mount Alexander Mail 2 March 1871 Mr Horley moved a vote of confidence in the local candidate for election to Parliament, Mr Zeal, who spoke at a large meeting at the Theatre in Castlemaine. [Later recorded as C Horley, whereas Charles Horley supports Dr Embling. Same person and different houses of Parliament, or different persons?]

DITTO 15 March 1871 Charles Horley is member of a committee promoting the candidature of Dr Thomas Embling, in the coming general election.

August 1877: Charles and children are in Echuca where his daughter Eliza meets and married Arthur Octavius Horsnell. [Which probably explains why Charles moved to Coalville towards the end of his life, with son George and his family]

SECOND MARRIAGE From Gail Hillbrick's collection: Thirtieth day of October 1880 at the Registry office, Gore (?) St Fitzroy, Charles Simms Horley, widower since 1867, 3 living children (and what looks like 4 deceased children), born England, Contractor, 53 yrs, of Carlton, son of Abraham Horley coal merchant and Elizabeth Simms, married Mary Jane Moore, spinster, born County Down in Northern Ireland, dress maker, 20 yrs, of Carlton, daughter of James Moore, farmer, and Ann McBride.

Charles Simms Last name Horley Sex Male Marriage year 1880 Spouse's first name(s) Mary Jane Spouse's last name Moore State Victoria Country Australia Record set Victoria Marriages 1836-1942 Registration number 5184

Mary Jane Horley nee Moore, died, aged 26yrs, 2nd October 1886, of heart failure, when the family lived in Brunswick. They had been married six years. I have transcribed witness statements from the inquest in Mary Jane's profile.

Australia, City Directories, 1845-1948 Name: Charles Horley Residence Year: 1882 Street Address: 175 Rathdown-St, Carl Residence Place: Victoria, Australia Charles Horley [See docs]

Sands & McDougall Directory 1884 Charles Horley is living/working at 5 Lyell St South Melbourne, near Smith street with three other men. It might be a rooming house or workplace - it might also be another person since Charles and Mary Jane were in Brunswick in 1886.

Charles worked at Coalville. It is not clear what brought him to Coalville with his now adult children, but there was a lot of work for a carpenter in building bridges for the railway carrying coal. Daughter Eliza and her husband, Arthur Octavius Horsnell had taken up land at Coalville, so perhaps Charles followed them there.

Email from Paul Horsnell, grandson of Charles Horley, 2019: "I have a chest of draws made by Charles Horley while at Coalville also his drafting pens etc. which have just given to my youngest grandson who wishes to do graphic art. You fail to mention Charles Horley was an alcoholic, that is why Eliza (Horley/Horsnell) would not allow any near the house, my father would not touch any untill he was over 70 then would have a sip of sherry in lemonade with Elwyn when at our place. Also Arthur when on ship to the war they were given a nip of rum because of bad weather but gave it to his mate, when he told his mother she was cross and said you should have taken it for your health."

DEATH Charles died 1st September 1896 in Coalville of lung disease and is buried on the 4th September at Moe cemetery.

From Gail Hillbrick's collection: September 1st 1896, Shire of Narracan, County of Buln Buln: Charles Simms Horley, male, 73 yrs, died of diseased lung and old age. Verdict of inquest held by A Mannall JP, September 2nd 1896. Family name Horley, other particulars not known. Informant Bretherton (????) Present at inquiry. Deputy Registrar HA Bernicke (I think). Buried September 4th 1896 at Moe Cemetery, undertaker was Magnus (???). Born Hull, England, been 47 years in the colony, other particulars not known. Married Adelaide and Melbourne, 47 years Eliza Bunting, other particulars not known. 3 children, particulars not known.

Charles Sims Last name Horley Age 73 Sex Male Birth year 1823 Death year 1896 Father's name - Mother's name - Death place Coalville State Victoria Registration number 9193

[This might mean that daughter, Fanny, was present for Charles' death] Name: Charles Sims Horley Gender: Male Child: Fanny Gunning Household Members: Name Age Charles Sims Horley Fanny Gunning

I have added here a series of articles for Lance C Horley of Coalville, from early 20th century papers. I imagine Lance might be a son of George, but it is hard to imagine he is not family. They are part of family history and I don't want to lose them in case someone is interested in the Horley branch. Lance is the son of George and found great success in WA.

I am adding a small number of articles re Charles from 1849 to 1851/2 when he and Eliza lived in Adelaide. It is possible there were two Charles Horleys living in Adelaide in the 1850s, and our Charles was in Melbourne in 1852. Articles referring to Charles as a builder or carpenter are probably our man, and you can make your own decision about how likely the others are to be him or a stranger. They show him as an Oddfellow in Adelaide and later in Williamstown where he also lived for a time, and the three surviving children were born.

I am adding a short history of Charles and Eliza with some original documents, provided by Graham McMahon, a descendant of Charles and Eliza. See docs.

In 1895 W H Horley is reported to be a miner at Coalville. Not sure who he is but might or might not be related to Charles.

The name "Horley" is derived from the town of Horley in Surrey, England.