Chief Nettle Carrier

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Tale'danigi'ski

Also Known As: "Talotiskee or Tale'daniqi'ski", "Taladanegiski. Dane-Giski", "Chief Nettle Carrier"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Cherokee Nation East, Toqua, United States
Death: after 1813
Ish's Station, TN, United States
Immediate Family:

Father of Hannah Thatcher Copeland

Occupation: Chief
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About Chief Nettle Carrier

Chief Nettle Carrier

  • BIRTH unknown
  • DEATH unknown Overton County, Tennessee, USA
  • BURIAL Unknown MEMORIAL ID 58292862 · View Source

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cherokee-108

Nettle Carrier was a minor Cherokee chief from the area known as the "Valley Towns," at the southwestern tip of North Carolina. He was probably born about the time of the American Revolution. Nothing is known of his family. He first appears in the records of the Cherokee Agency in November, 1801 on a receipt for a plow. [1] By 1805 he was a village headman or chief, writing to Indian Agent Return Meigs to complain of intruders on Cherokee lands, [2] and in 1806 signing a similar complaint along with more than twenty other chiefs. [3] In 1814 he was one of about 400 Cherokee men who fought with the Americans at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. [4] In 1816 he joined other chiefs in asking Meigs' help in presenting their concerns to the President. [5] He also filed an application for bounty land due to the Horseshoe Bend veterans, but as with most of the Cherokee applicants his application was denied. [6] He is last recorded in 1818, signing up his family of six to emigrate west. [7]

Nothing more is known of him or his family .

Research Notes

A previous version of this profile included an undocumented daughter, Hannah Thatcher Copeland. She has been detached since there is no evidence they were related in any way.


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58292862/nettle-carrier

Indian name Talotiskee or Tale'danigi'ski From One Hundred Years in the Cumberland Mountains by A R Hogue "On the mountains above the head of Nettle Carrier Creek was a village of the Cherokee Indians. The site of the village is now known as the Indian Graves. In this village were two young braves who were in love with the same Indian maiden. To decide who should marry her, they went to the Chief of the tribe. The old Chief told them to each throw a sprig of green into the water of a nearby creek, and that the one whose sprig was carried the farthest by the water, should marry the girl. One threw a nettle, and the other a thorn. The nettle floated farthest, so this thrower married the Indian maiden, and from that day was called Nettle Carrier. The lucky Indian became chief of his tribe. Nettle Carrier was the last Indian chief to reside in this section, and tradition has it that he lived here until 1799." The Indian Territory that had been within Overton County Tennessee, in which Chief Nettle Carrier presided over, was conceded to Tennessee for use by the white man. Chief Nettle Carrier operated out of a camp located along the creek that now bears his name. He is listed in several places as the son of Chief Dragging Canoe # 38782478

Family Members Parents Photo Dragging Canoe Attakullakulla 1734–1792

Nelly Ugalogv Pathkiller Attakullakulla 1735–1792

Half Siblings Photo Darcus Winningham Cravens 1811–1889

Children Photo Hannah Ward Carrier Copeland 1790–1869

Darcus Winningham Cravens 1811–1887

Photo Darcus Winningham Cravens 1811–1889

Gravesite Details (Utale'danigi'si in a dialectic form) variously rendered by the whites "Hemp-carrier," "Nettle-carrier" or "flax-toter," from tale'ta or utale'ta, flax (Linum) or richweed (Pilea pumila), and danigi'ski, "he carries them" (habitually). A former prom

Notes

From https://chenocetah.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/eastern-cherokee-treaty...

Signers of The Turnpike Agreement, 1813, include Nettle Carrier

From https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/overton-county/

After the American Revolution many veterans received land grants from the federal government and moved into the region. In 1799 Colonel Stephen Copland and his son “Big Jo” left Kingston and established a settlement near Monroe. Copland worked out a hospitable arrangement with the Cherokee chief Nettle Carrier and was allowed to establish a home site. His success encouraged further settlement.

From http://www.tntcarden.com/tree/ensor/Copeland.htm

Early spring of 1791 ,Col.Stephan Copeland, one of the oldest families of North Carolina ,accompanied by his son Joseph ,left Jefferson Co. for the Cumberland country.Following an indian trail over the Cumberland mountains ,they pursued their journey , carring few supplies ,brought from Kingston. They camped in a valley which is now known as Overton,Tn.and they planted a crop of corn. Col.Copeland hunted many days with an Indian chief, Nettle Carrier. As a Cherokee chief he signed a paper authorizing a turnpike company to open a road through the reservation. After cultivating his corn crop, Col.Copeland and son returned home ,and became the first settlers of Overton Co.Tn.
Joseph copeland was a man of gigantic size,there are many stories about is exhibitions of strength. It was as a hunter that Joseph was well known, one story told was that he killed sixty two grown bears in one winter.
In choosing a wife ,Joseph married chief Nettle Carriers daughter,Hannah. In her prime she weighed about three hundred and fifty pounds. The smallest of their children was known as 'Little Ellis and he weighed 360 pounds.

They were famous locally for running foot races and winning.

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Chief Nettle Carrier's Timeline

1760
1760
Cherokee Nation East, Toqua, United States
1790
1790
Tennessee, United States
1813
1813
Age 53
Ish's Station, TN, United States