Chief Sir John Menzies, of Menzies

SIR JOHN MENZIES

succeeded Sir Robert Menzies [Clan Menzies] http://www.menzies.org/history/clanchiefs.htm whose son he is said to have been [David Prentice Menzies, FSA. Scot.,The Red and White Book of Menzies etc. (Glasgow, 1894), pp.79-89] https://archive.org/stream/redwhitebookofm00menz#page/78/mode/2up

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Thus fell Sir Robert the Menzies, Earl, or Viscount, of Edinburgh, fighting by the side of David II., the son of his fellow companion-in-arms, the great Bruce, in the service of whom he had distinguished himself at Bannockburn and in several of the invasions of England. He suffered the confiscation of his lands in Edinburghshire by the orders of Edward III. for his strenuous support of the house of his old leader and king ; as also did his brother, Sir Alexander of Menzies, and daughter (or sister), Annabella of Menzies. He was born about 1267 and died 1346, and left three sons and one daughter, Annabella:

(1st.) Sir John the Menzies, who became chief and succeeded to the estates of Menzies.

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JOHN THE MENZIES succeeded his father, Viscount Robert the Menzies, in the whole lands and estates before mentioned, viz. : - Weem, Aberfeldy, Dull, Bolfracks, Loch Tay or Disher and Toyer, in Athole,including the whole surrounding country of Loch Tay, Glendochart, and Glenlochy in Breadalbane ; Glenlyon, with the lands of Fernachie and Gowlantine in the Abthanage of Dull ; also many other places, such as the lands of Finlarig, Moreinsh, Edramucky, Glenquich, and others ; with those of his mother Margaret Oynt or Evioth of Busey, in Perthshire, whose lands lay in Glenesk, a valley in the northern part of the Grampian district of Forfarshire, watered by the North Esk and its mountain tributaries. ....

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Chief Sir John the Menzies was probably born about 1323, and died about 1410. He appears to have left three sons :

• (1st.) Sir Robert the Menzies, his successor as chief.
• (2nd.) Sir Thomas Menzies, who got a charter by David II. for the lands of West and North Cultnachy, Burliche, and Ballingall Easter. Teinnincency, extending to a 40 merk land, pays 6s. 8d. " stg. in Kinross-shire." On the lands of " Burliche," now called Burleigh, which are about one-and-a-half miles north of the town of Kinross, are the remains of an old castle, evidently built by its old Menzies' lairds ; a great part of the exterior walls remain entire ; the out-buildings of a farm have been incorporated with it ; it seems to have been originally a square, surrounded by a wall and a ditch. The western side of this square consists of two towers, and an intervening curtain and gateway remain.The tower on the north-west angle is a square building ; that on the south-west is circular in form. The castle, like most other old castles of the Menzies', was at one period surrounded with fine old trees, some of which still linger in the vicinity of the ruins. — Robertson's Index of Charters.
• (3rd.) Sir William Menzies, the brother of Sir Robert Menzies, had in his time the lands and forest of Alyth, granted in the early part of his life by King David II. Robertson mentions in his list of charters that Sir William Menzies had granted to him the keeping of the forest of Alyth.

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• Reference: MyHeritage Family Trees - SmartCopy: Nov 16 2016, 6:12:30 UTC
• http://genealogy.richardremme.com/tng/getperson.php?personID=I17716...
  • Menzies, Robert de of Menzies and Weem, Seriff of Edinburgh, 'Viscoun, b. 1267, d. 1346 (Age 79 years) Mother Oyth, Margaret de (dau of Sir David de Oyth or Evicoth), d. Yes, date unknown. Married Christian. their son: 1. Menzies, Robert de of Menzies and Weem, b. 1353, d. 1411 (Age 58 years).