Sir Robert Menzies of Menzies & Weem

SIR ROBERT MENZIES

is the son of Sir Alexander Menzies and Egida Stewart [David Prentice Menzies, FSA. Scot., The Red and White Book of Menzies etc. (Glasgow, 1894), pp. 62-78] https://archive.org/stream/redwhitebookofm00menz#page/62/mode/2up

Sir Robert the Menzies, Viscount Menzies, cousin to King Robert ll. Married Margaret de Oyth, and got with her the lands of Ceres, & ..c; and had three sons. [also a daughter?]

• John
• Alexander
• Robert
• Annabella

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From http://digital.nls.uk/histories-of-scottish-families/pageturner.cfm...

Viscount Robert the Menzies married Margaret de Oyoth, Uyoth, or Evioth, which family, afterwards called Evioth of Busey, was of considerable note, and subsisted till the reign of King James the Sixth, when Colin Eviot of Busey was forfeited for his share in the Gowrie conspiracy. This lady was one of the daughters and heirs-portioners of Sir David de Oyoth, knight. By this marriage the Menzies' got the lands of Syres, now called Ceres, in Fifeshire. Ceres is a town and also a parish that extends for seven or eight miles in length by about four miles broad, with an area of about 8000 acres. It is pleasantly and even picturesquesly diversified, the whole consisting of a beautiful valley screened by Tarvet Hill and Magus Moor. The town of Ceres stands two-and-a-half miles south-east of Cupar, on the road to Pittenweem, which may have got its name from the Menzies' village and possessions of Weem in Perthshire. They also got the lands of Caffyndoly, now called Cassindilla, adjoining Ceres ; the lands of Balquy, now Balcarlsward ; and the lands of Craigneir, now Craighall, near Ceres, where there is also a beautiful old tower 24 feet square and 50 feet high — the walls are of jointed stone and very thick, and the windows small, the whole surmounted by a battlement, doubtless the work of the old Menzies chiefs. They likewise got the lands of Caluge, now Gilston, two-and-a-half miles south-east of Ceres, with a village of about fifty-one houses.

From http://digital.nls.uk/histories-of-scottish-families/pageturner.cfm...

Thus fell Sir Robert the Menzies, Earl, or Viscount, of Edinburgh, fighting by the side of David II., the son of his fellow companion-in-arms, the great Bruce, in the service of whom he had distinguished himself at Bannockburn and in several of the invasions of England. He suffered the confiscation of his lands in Edinburghshire by the orders of Edward III. for his strenuous support of the house of his old leader and king ; as also did his brother, Sir Alexander of Menzies, and daughter (or sister), Annabella of Menzies. He was born about 1267 and died 1346, and left three sons and one daughter, Annabella:

(1st.) Sir John the Menzies, who became chief and succeeded to the estates of Menzies.

(2nd.) Sir Alexander of Menzies, who, by his marriage, about 1370, to Janet - who was the only child and heiress of Robert Stewart, Earl of Athole - got lands in the shire of Aberdeen. In the charter granted by his grandfather Sir Alexander the Menzies to his father Viscount Robert the Menzies, he is called his grandchild, and is 'designated Alexander Menzies of Fortingall. From this son of Sir Robert, Nisbet considers that the family of Pitfodels (probably by a second son) and others of the name in the country descend. He likewise got the whole lands of Strathtummel with his wife, and from the importance of the property conveyed with his own, he received a charter confirming him in his possessions from King David II. These were the lands of Lassintullich, Tullichcroskie (now Crosmount), Kynachan, Garth, Bufrax, and a third part of the town of Lynnoch. Of this marriage there were two sons, Sir Alexander — who succeeded to the Garth estates - and Robert, said to be the ancestor of the Aberdeen branch of Clan Menzies.

(3rd.) Sir Robert of Menzies, who got in his father's lifetime the lands and barony of Enouch, in Dumfriesshire, about five miles from Durrisdeer, which his uncle, Sir Alexander Menzies, held at that time, both marching with each other. In this barony stood the ancient stronghold of the Menzies', Castle Enouch.

(ist.) Annabella Menzies — who received the lands and barony of Kinniel, with Barrowstouness in Linlithgowshire — married Sir David Hamilton, by which marriage these old Menzies lands descended to the present Dukes of Hamilton. They had three sons — ist, Sir David, ancestor of the Duke; 2nd, Walter, from whom the Hamiltons of Grange and Cambuskeith in Ayrshire descend ; 3d, Alan, from whom are the Hamiltons of Larbert in Linlithgowshire. — Scottish Nation, p. 416, vol.

From page 25 of Comitatus de Atholia. The earldom of Atholl: its boundaries stated. Also, the extent therein of the possessions of the family of de Atholia, and their descendants, the Robertsons. James Alexander Robertson 1860

... It has been before mentioned, that Janet and her husband, Menzies of Fothergill, were alive in 1381. This fact is proved from the Account, aud evidence mentioned therein, of the Family of Menzies, in Nesbit's 2d volume, page 244,

1 At this period, in Latin charters, the name of Menzies was always called' de Meyners.

2 On the estate of Bonskeid there is a wood named Coillevrochan, which was given in consequence of King Robert Bruce having there, it is said, partaken of a very hasty breakfast with Duncan de Atholia, when on his way to Rannoch after the defeat at Methven.

and understood to be drawn up by M'Farlane of that ilk1—one of the best Scotch antiquarians—where he mentions the marriage of Sir Robert de Meyners, and from a note marked (e), both here given from the above quoted page ;—thus, "Of this marriage there were two sons,—John, the heir of the family, and Alexander de Meyners de Fothergill, who, by his wife Janet, got lands in the shire of Aberdeen in the north,

• Reference: MyHeritage Family Trees - SmartCopy: Nov 16 2016, 6:12:30 UTC