Edward Barnes, merchant of London

See also Edward Barnes (immigrant)

Edward Barnes

• b. circa 1620
• Employment*: London merchant
• Biography*: Edward was a London Merchant.
• Note*: From notes of J. Robert Boykin II, 1303 Brookside Drive, Wilson, NC. This is on file at the Johnston Co. Library, Smithfield, NC. See also "17th Century Isle of Wight Co, VA," by Boddie, p. 549. Also, "Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight Co, VA 1647-1800," by Chapman, p. 23. Birth*: circa 1620 Last Edited: 6 Oct 2000
• Family: Thomas Barnes+ b. c 1645, d. c 1683

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Edward Barnes b:31 Jul 1608 married Alice Cock (1615-1645) on 21 Jun 1635. Children born to them were Amey b:1636, Elizabeth b:1637, John b:1639, and Ann b: 1642. Four more children were born between 1638-1644 before Alice died in May 1645. One may be Thomas of Isle of Wight Co, VA (Thomas was born in 1640). Thomas Barnes, of Isle of Wight County

Edward married Mary Mills on 26 May 1645. Their children were Mary b: 1646; Joshua b:1647, d: before 1653; Joshua #2 b:1653, Abrah b: 1655; Isack b:1657; Abraham #2 b:1659, and Sara b:1664.
http://www.williambarnesgenealogy.com/barnes_families/Edward_Barnes... >

Edward Barnes b:1620 in Carshalton Surrey England and Edward Barnes 1680-1762 are included in Group 7 (in the teal color) of the FTDNA Y-DNA Barnes Project along with Thomas and Diana Barnes of Isle of Wight Co, VA. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/barnes?iframe=yresults

Edward Barnes of London, England was the probable father of Thomas Barnes (1645-1683) who died in Isle of Wight County, Virginia. Thomas was the ancestor of both Christian Barnes (1755-1797), who married Isaac Farmer, Jr., and Mary barnes (1724-1789), who married Robert Simms II. Includes the associated families of Bragg, Jones, Pope and Powell.

Barnes Families of Isle of Wight County Virginia and Edgecombe/ Nash Counties North Carolina (1992) by Ann Williamson Berryman

Descent

The Thomas Barnes (died 1683) listed married James Bragg's dau. Diana. His own will is recorded in the same book on 6-9-1683.This Thomas was the son of the immigrant,Edward Barnes.He was born in 1646 in Isle of Wight Co. He had a son,John Sr.,who married Ann Jones;they in turn had a son named Thomas.

Disambiguation

Not the same as the Edward Barnes described here “ Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary” By Martha W. McCartney. Page 113. GoogleBooks

Notes

“Remarks and Collections of Thomas Hearne, Volume 1” By Thomas Hearne. Page 278. GoogleBooks

Edward Barnes, who marry'd first wife Anne Cock, by whom he had 8 children, Eliz. & John &c. both who dy'd of ye Great Plague 1664. wth all their children. His second wife Mary Mills, Daughter of 1 John Mills Atturney of ye City of Salisbury, whose Brother was Mayor of Salisbury. Of her he had 13 children, Mary, now living, marryed to William Meredith, a Cheshire man, a Baker, Jacob, now living in Virginia, &c. Martha, Wife of Felix Rhymes an Oxford Man, by whome one Daughter Mary, marryed to Richard Millard, who 40 has two Sons, Rob. & Rich, both living, & a Daughter dead. ... “Joshua Barnes I, who dyed a 7 etat. Abrahams, two, both dead, Isaac, Daniel, Sarah, and Joshua, II, now 50 years old, 1704. The above seems somewhat involved and difficult, so is copied litteratum."25 (p. 204)

Historical and Genealogical Notes and Queries. (1908). The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, 16(2), 199-210. Retrieved June 17, 2020, from www.jstor.org/stable/4242946. Page 203.

J. Barnes wrote to T. Hearne (quoted above) that “he is at Hemingford to meet his only brother Jacob, who after 32 years’ absence, made a voyage from Virginia, where his wife and children are, only to see the writer.” ... This J Barnes was Joshua Barnes FRS (10 January 1654 – 3 August 1712), whi was an English scholar. His work Gerania; a New Discovery of a Little Sort of People, anciently discoursed of, called Pygmies (1675) was an Utopian romance.[1] Barnes was born in London, the son of Edward Barnes, a merchant taylor.

Research notes

http://www.williambarnesgenealogy.com/barnes_families/Jacob_Barnes_...

“Jacob Barnes Timeline in Isle of Wight Co., Virginia, and People Associated with Him.” Jacob was born 1649 - Probably London, England. His parents were Edward Barnes and Mary Mills if the article about Jacob is accurate. [Thomas Barnes of Isle of Wight , was born bef 1645 - probable brother or other relative]. Edward Barnes, of Edgecombe County son of Jacob Barnes, Married Sarah Pope.

Comments

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/barnes/14664/

The late genealogist Hugh B. Johnston in his writings speculated that Thomas Barnes was the son of an Edward Barnes, a merchant of London, and assigned to Edward Barnes sons named Humphrey, Thomas, Jacob, John, and Joshua Barnes. Various researchers have speculated widely on the identity of this alleged Edward Barnes alluded to by Mr. Johnston.In actuality, Mr. Johnston provided no proof at all that Thomas Barnes was the son of any Edward Barnes, nor is there any definitive documentary proof showing that any particular Edward Barnes in London or early Virginia had the specific sons named by Mr. Johnston.A Humphrey Barnes does indeed appear in Isle of Wight County, VA records in the 1660s, and could have been a brother or relative of Thomas Barnes (d. 1683), but there is no explicit documentary proof of this. There are a number of wills for the name Edward Barnes in London during the 17th century, but again none specifically match the Edward Barnes to whom Mr. Johnston alluded.The parish register of St. Botolph Bishopgate in London does contain a baptism for a Thomas Barnes, son of Edward and Margaret Barnes, on March 7, 1647, but whether that entry has any relevance whatsoever to Thomas Barnes of Isle of Wight County, Virginia is completely unknown.Curiously, an Edward Barnes of Wedmore, Somerset, England married a Margaret Morris in 1634, and they did have a son named Humphrey Barnes born in Wedmore in 1642.Whether they could possibly be identical with the couple of that name who had a son Thomas in 1647 in London is anyone's guess. In short, nothing has really been proven conclusively regarding the parentage of Thomas Barnes (d. 1683) of Isle of Wight County, Virginia beyond the speculations and opinions of various genealogical researchers. Most have merely followed Mr. Johnston's suggestion.DNA evidence might possibly one day provide some factual insight.

References

• https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/o/r/f/Todd-L-Orf/GENE17-0017.html
• https://www.ancestry.com.au/boards/surnames.barnes/5000.3.1.1?viewT...
• ” Barnes Families of Isle of Wight County Virginia and Edgecombe/ Nash Counties North Carolina” 1992 - 24 pages. Edward Barnes of London, England was the probable father of Thomas Barnes (1645-1683) who died in Isle of Wight County, Virginia. Thomas was the ancestor of both Chrisitan Barnes (1755-1797), who married Isaac Farmer, Jr., and Mary barnes (1724-1789), who married Robert Simms II. Includes the associated families of Bragg, Jones, Pope and Powell. GoogleBooks
• http://www.williambarnesgenealogy.com/barnes_families/Edward_Barnes... “ Edward Barnes Married (1) Alice Cock & (2) Mary Mills of London, England. ... One may be Thomas of Isle of Wight Co., VA
• “Alumni Cantabrigienses: A Biographical List of All Known Students, Graduates ...” edited by John Venn. Page 93.
• “Jacob Barnes Timeline in Isle of Wight Co., Virginia, and People Associated with Him” (2017) < PDF >
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Barnes
• https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/barnes/14664/