Elizabeth Poole

Elizabeth is the daughter of John Shaw and Alice Phillips, born February 26, 1655/6.[3] According to administration papers of her father's estate dated March 11, 1705/06 Elizabeth is the wife of Joseph Poole. The History of Weymouth, Vol 4, p. 612 also identifies Elizabeth as the wife of Joseph Poole of Weymouth. Further, on page 475 the family of Joseph Poole and Elizabeth Shaw are described.

Torrey, in New England Marriages prior to 1700, page 26166 has this to say about Joseph Poole: "Joseph (-1706) & 1/wf Elizabeth [SHAW] (1656-), m/2 Peter HOLBROOK, m/3 Robert WEARE; by 1674; Weymouth {Weymouth 4:475; Poole 9; Gen. Adv. 3:128, 4:64; Bassett-Preston 215, 254; Reg. 59:328; Backus Anc. 155, 156}". The timing of these second and third marriages for Elizabeth seem suspect though.[4] A look at at the Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850 reveals that Peter [Holbrook] married a Hannah Pool, Mar. 23, 1713. Mendon Marriages - V1, Page(s): 323.

Joseph Poole and his wife, Elizabeth Shaw, had nine children. They are listed below as they are recorded in The History of Weymouth. An asterisk confirms the birthdate in Weymouth Birth records.:

• 1) Elizabeth Poole b. Dec 6, 1674*
• 2) Suzanna Poole b. Dec 17, 1679*
• 3) Mary Poole b. Jan 20, 1681*
• 4) Benjamin Poole b. Feb 9, 1682*
• 5) Joseph Poole b. abt 1677.
• 6) Samuel Poole b. abt 1686.
• 7) Margaret Poole b. Apr 22, 1688*
• 8) Isaac Poole b. abt 1690, d. June 19, 1759*
• 9) Abigail b. Jun 30, 1690. - Birth record for this person suggests their parents were Joseph Pooll and Mary? Elizabeth (Shaw) Poole died July 6, 1748, at Hingham, Massachusetts.[1]

Source

• Reference: Find A Grave Memorial - SmartCopy: Jun 10 2018, 1:26:29 UTC

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Category: Weymouth, Massachusetts

Disputed Origins

It has been said in The History of Weymouth<ref name="v3">WeymouthHistorical Society History of Weymouth, Massachusetts, volume3, reference page 23]</ref> that Elizabeth married Edward Bates but the evidence suggests a mistake was made. Torrey, in New England Marriages prior to 1700, page 2258 says Edward Bates married: "Edward (1655-) & Elizabeth [?EDSELL]; by 1679/[80?]; Weymouth {Weymouth 3:23; Bates Bulletin 1913:19, 4 ser. 154; Bates (n.d.) 20; Sv. 1:138}".
Unfortunately, no records of either Elizabeth's marriage to Edward Bates or Joseph Poole have been found in Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850, Weymouth volume, although both marriages appear (from Torrey) to have occurred there. Broadening the search to all of Massachusetts turns up no records for either marriage in that database. Since Elizabeth couldn't have been married to, and having children with two different men at the same time, and since her father, John Shaw's will provides evidence of her marrying Joseph Poole,<ref>Weymouth Historical Society History of Weymouth, Massachusetts, volume 4, reference page 475</ref> it seems impossible that she is the wife ofEdward Bates. In online genealogy forums, this question has come up, and the postings say that there is no primary source data to show Elizabeth (daughterof John and Alice Shaw) married Edward Bates. It seems that the researcher in History of Weymouth errored with respect to Edward Bates and Elizabeth, and a lot of other researchers relied on this erroneousinformation, perpetuating the myth.

Biography

Elizabeth is the daughter of John Shaw and Alice Phillips, born February 26, 1655/6.<ref>Massachusetts Vital Records to1850, Weymouth Volume 1, page 268</ref> According to administration papers of her father's estate dated March 11, 1705/06 Elizabeth is the wife of Joseph Poole. The History of Weymouth, Vol 4, p. 612 also identifies Elizabeth as the wife of Joseph Poole of Weymouth. Further, on page 475 the family of Joseph Poole and Elizabeth Shaw are described.
Torrey, in New England Marriages prior to 1700, page 26166 has this tosay about Joseph Poole: "Joseph (-1706) & 1/wf Elizabeth [SHAW] (1656-), m/2 Peter HOLBROOK, m/3 Robert WEARE; by 1674; Weymouth {Weymouth 4:475; Poole 9; Gen. Adv. 3:128, 4:64; Bassett-Preston 215, 254; Reg. 59:328; Backus Anc. 155, 156}". The timing of these second and third marriages for Elizabeth seem suspect though.<ref>Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700, reference Joseph Pooll and Elizabeth Shaw, page 26166</ref> A look at at the Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850 reveals that Peter [Holbrook] married a Hannah Pool, Mar. 23, 1713. Mendon Marriages - V1, Page(s): 323. Joseph Poole and his wife, Elizabeth Shaw, had nine children. They arelisted below as they are recorded in The History of Weymouth. An asterisk confirms the birthdate in Weymouth Birth records.:

:1) Elizabeth Poole b. Dec 6, 1674* :2) Suzanna Poole b. Dec 17, 1679* :3) Mary Poole b. Jan 20, 1681* :4) Benjamin Poole b. Feb 9, 1682* :5) Joseph Poole b. abt 1677. :6) Samuel Poole b. abt 1686. :7) Margaret Poole b. Apr 22, 1688* :8) Isaac Poole b. abt 1690, d. June 19, 1759*:9) Abigail b. Jun 30, 1690. - Birth record for this person suggests their parents were Joseph Pooll and Mary? Elizabeth (Shaw) Poole died July 6, 1748, at Hingham, Massachusetts.<ref name="v3"/>

: m1. Capt. Joseph Poole : m2. Dea. Peter Holbrook : m3. Mendon 26 February 1719/20, Robert Ware of Wrentham

Burial

:: North Bellingham Cemetery, Bellingham, Norfolk, Massachusetts, USA

Sources

<references />* Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850 (Online Database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2010). Volume: Weymouth (Births) - V1, Page: 268: Elizabeth, d. John and Alice, Feb. 26, 1655.* History of Weymouth, Vol 4.* Ullmann, Helen Schatvet. Richard^{<small>1</small>} Godfrey of Taunton, Massachusetts, and His Children and Grandchildren, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 2009) Vol. 163, WN 649, Page 67.

• 147931284 ::: Birth: 26 Feb 1656 ::: Death: 26 Feb 1723 (aged 67)::: Burial: North Bellingham Cemetery, Bellingham, Norfolk, Massachusetts, USA* Preston, Belle. Bassett-Preston Ancestors (Tuttle Morehouse & Taylor Co., New Haven, Conn., 1930) Page 215::* Elizabeth (Shaw) (Poole) (Holbroke) Weare died at Wrenthan, July 28, 1723. Her will, dated Feb. 10, 1719, mentions her sons Joseph, Samuel, and Isaac Poole; children of deceased daughter Margaret Torry; children of Elizabeth Lovel, deceased, and four surviving daughters, naming Abigail Cook and Hannah Holbrook; her son-in-law Peter Holbrook, executor.* Orcutt, Cyrus. Early Records of Weymouth, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 1849) Vol. 3, Page 71.

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SHAW A GENEALOGY OF THE DESCENDANTS OF JOHN SHAW AND MARY BURRELL US/CAN 929.273SH26t

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! Warwik marriage in "VR of RI" Vol. !3

! Warwik marriage in "VR of RI" Vol. !3 by Arnold p. 106

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Person note

Death listed by Baltzer or Kingman as 6 Jul 1748.

BIRT SOUR Joan E. Gathings, Clermont, FL

DEAT SOUR Joan E. Gathings, Clermont, FL

This marriage and death info from KINGMAN.

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Life Sketch

Birth Records state this Elizabeth Shaw is the daughter of JOHN SHAW and ALICE PHILLIPS https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F45Y-5HN

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!MARRIAGE: NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700;1621-1700; BY CLARENCE ALMON TORREY; GENEALOGICAL PUBLISHING CO.;BALTIMORE,MARYLAND; IN POSSESSION OF CAROL NICHOLS, GILBERTS,ILL. PG. 593. !BIRTH-MARRIAGE-DEATH: HISTORY OF WEYMOUTH,MASSACHUSETTS; IN 4 VOLUMES; GENEALOGY OF WEYMOUTH FAMILIES; BY GEORGE WALTER CHAMBERLAIN,M.S.; PUBLISHED BY THE WEYMOUTH HISTORICAL SOCIETY. PG. 475. !BIRTH: TOWN OF WEYMOUTH, MASSACHUSETTS; VITAL RECORDS; BIRTHS REGISTER; 1633- 1844; CLASSIFIED RECORD OF WEYMOUTH - BIRTHS, 1843-44; MICROFILM # 2031513; L.D.S. GENEALOGY LIBRARY, SALT LAKE CITY,UTAH. PG. 194.

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Abram Powell by Boyd Lee Powell January 5, 1714 (Actually 1715 by our calendar). In his will he mentions his wife, Sarah, and is two daughters, Anna and Susanna.

Thomas' son, John, is James' 3rd great grandfather. he appears to be

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!Vital Records of Weymouth Massachusetts

!Vital Records of Weymouth Massachusetts to the Year 1850. Volume I. Page 21