LINKS to MEDIEVAL LANDS [updated July 2017]

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm

a) RICHARD "le Goz" (-after 1082).

m (before [1047]%29 ---. The name of Richard’s wife is not known. She is called “Emma” in the Complete Peerage[118], but the primary source on which this is based has not been identified. A manuscript relating to St Werburgh’s Chester records that “Hugo Lupus filius ducis Britanniæ et nepos Gulielmi magni ex sorore” transformed the foundation into a monastery[119]. This suggests that Hugues’s mother may have been a uterine sister of King William, and therefore daughter of Herluin de Conteville. However, no indication has been in other primary sources which supports the contention that Hugues was the son of a duke of Brittany. It is assumed therefore that both lines of his parentage have been romanticised in this document to improve his status and reputation. Another possibility is that she was related to the Grantmesnil family: Orderic Vitalis records that “Rodbertus, Unfridi filius” [Robert of Rhuddlan, son of Onfroi de Tilleul and his wife Adelise de Grantmesnil] went “cum Hugone consobrino suo, Richardi de Abrincis cognomento Goz filio” to England[120]. If the relationship is as indicated by Orderic, from a chronological point of view Richard’s wife could have been --- de Grantmesnil, daughter of Robert de Grantmesnil & his wife Hawise ---.

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In spite of the fact that, as one Geni member argues, "every site lists her parents" (some are listed below) as de Conteville, these are amateur family tree websites that just copy and repeat what is often unproven or misinformation. The better researched medieval sites, which we curators follow, state that her name is unknown and that she may possibly have been de Conteville or de Grandmesnil. Or not. Given the lack of documentation of her name, we are leaving her as "Name Unknown" (N.N.). --Pam Wilson, Curator July 2017

https://xpda.com/family/deConteville-Emma-ind01614.htm http://webberfamilynorwood.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I19... http://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I14663 http://www.familypursuit.com/genealogy/de-conteville_emma/emma-de-c... http://www.genealogiequebec.info/testphp/info.php?no=24329 https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/emma-de-conteville_39826... http://gw.geneanet.org/belfast8?lang=en&p=emma+de+conteville&n=burgh https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Conteville-5

Note

Not listed at Wikipedia as a daughter of these parents.

 Sources  • Harleian Society. The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, The Publicatons of The Harleian Society (London: The Society, 1882) Vol. 18, Page 4: "The Genealogy of the Earles of Chester. [Harl. 1424, fo. 3. Harl. 1505, fo. 2.]"  • Yeatman, John Pym. The Early Genealogical History of the House of Arundel (Mitchell and Hughes, London, 1882) Page 38: "Ermenhilde (Emma), sister of William the Conqueror"  • Ancestry Family Trees: Publication: Name: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.: Numerous Ancestry Family Trees were included as support for information submitted.  • The Millennium File (Heritage Consulting) 

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b. circa 1030?

Emma de Conteville|b. c 1030?|p55.htm#i6644|Herluin de Conteville|b. 1001\nd. c 1066|p347.htm#i6645|Herlève de Falaise|b. 1003|p44.htm#i5008|Jean de Conteville|b. 969|p55.htm#i6646||||Fulbert de Falaise|b. 978|p44.htm#i5051|Doda (?)|b. 980|p44.htm#i5052|

Father Herluin de Conteville1,2 b. 1001, d. circa 1066

Mother Herlève de Falaise1,2 b. 1003

Emma de Conteville was dismissed as fictitious, by Douglas, and not a daughter of Herluin and Herleve, and not the half-sister of William the Conqueror, as supposed.3,4 She was born circa 1030? At Normandy. Some claim she was the daughter of Herluin de Conteville and Herlève de Falaise.1,2 Emma de Conteville married Richard le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches, son of Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches and Judith de Montanolier, before 1040 at Normandy, France.5,1

Citations

  1. [S842] Harleian Society, "Visitiation Cheshire 1580: Chester Earls".

2. [S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, III:164.
3. [S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, XII/1, App. K, pg. 32-33.
4. [S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, III:164-165, makes no such reservation about her parentage.
5. [S209] Somerset Herald J.R. Planché, Planché, J.R..
6. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 295-32.
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   1Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (7th ed., Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1992.), 132A-25, Los Angeles Public Library, Gen 974 W426 1992.

2Schwennicke, Detlev, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten (Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-), III-694B, Family History Library, 940 D5es.
3Moriarty, George Andrews, The Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Philippa (Salt Lake City: Mormon Pioneer Genealogy Society, 1985.), p. 111, Family History Library, 929.242 P694m.
4Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant (London: St. Catherine Press, 1910.), 3:164, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.721 C682.
5Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166 (Woodbridge: The Boydell Press, 1999.), p. 258, Los Angeles Public Library, Gen 942.02 K25.