Eustache II “le Vieux” de Fiennes

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EUSTACHE [II] de Fiennes, son of CONON de Fiennes & his wife --- (-after 1141). "Cononis de Fieules, Eustacii et Rogerii filiorum eius…" subscribed the charter dated Jul 1112 under which "Eustacius Bolonie comes" confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Samer[595]. "Cono de Finlleiz, Eustacius et Rogerius filius eius…" subscribed the charter dated 16 Jul 1113 under which "Eustachius junior…Boloniensium comes" confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Samer[596]. "…Eustachius de Fielnes, Willelmus et Rogerus fratres sui…" subscribed the charter dated 1141 (presumably misdated because of the donors’ titles) under which "Stephanus comes Bolonie et Morethonii et Mathildis comitissa" confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Samer[597]. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Eustacius senex de Fielnis" founded "ecclesiam de Bello-loco"[598].

m ---. The name of Eustache’s wife is not known. Eustache [II] & his wife had four children:

1. EUSTACHE [III] de Fiennes (-before 1187). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Eustacium…Engelramnum…Gillebertum …Radulphum" as the sons of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis"[599]. m as her first husband, MARGUERITE de Guines, daughter of ARNAUD Comte de Guines & his wife Mathilde de Saint-Omer (-1222). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Eustacium", son of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis", married "Ghisnensis comitis Arnoldi filiam Margaretam"[600]. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names (in order) "Margaretam…Beatricem…Adelidem …Eufemiam et Luthgaudam…Mathildem…Ghislam…Agnetem" as the eight daughters of "Gandavense Arnoldo" & his wife, specifying that Marguerite married firstly "Eustacio de Fielnis" and secondly "Rogero Curtracensi castellano"[601]. She married secondly Roger [I] Châtelain de Courtrai Burggraaf van Gent. Philippe Count of Flanders confirmed the donation of property "in parrochia de Severne" to the church of Saint-Martin, Popinglo made by "Rogerus castellanus et uxor eius Margareta" by charter dated 6 May 1187, signed by "Rogeri, Arnoldi, Giselberti filiorum ipsius Rogeri castellani, Joannis Insularis castellani…Sigeri de Gant…"[602]. "Margareta quondam castellana Curtracensis" donated revenue to Gant Saint-Pierre by undated charter[603]. A charter dated to [1201/09] records the donation by "nobilis matrona Margareta…castellana Curtracensis" to Gant Saint-Pierre for the anniversary of "domini Eustachii primi mariti eiusdem matrone"[604].

2. ENGUERRAND [I] de Fiennes (-1218). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Eustacium…Engelramnum…Gillebertum …Radulphum" as the sons of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis"[605]. m (before 1171) SIBYLLE de Tingry, daughter of FARAMUS de Boulogne & his wife Mathilde --- (-after 29 Sep 1223). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Engelramnum", son of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis", married "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam, Willelmi Faramus sororem"[606]. Faramus donated the tithes of Sombres to the abbey of St Josse “cum uxore Matilda et Sibilla filia mea”, with the consent of “Matheo Boloniense comite et heredibus meis Ingeranno de Fienles et uxore eius Sibilla filia mea”, by charter dated 1171[607]. “Sibilla de Tyngria filia Farami de Bolonia, domina de Clopham” confirmed the donation of land “in Balgehem, quæ pertinebat ad manerium de Clopham” [see her father’s confirmation] to Bec Abbey by undated charter[608]. Her dowry was the manor of Mortok in Somerset, as shown by the Testa de Nevill which includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Willelmus de Fienes" held "manerium de Mortok que fuit de dominico regis de dono comitis Willelmi filii Reginaldi filii Stephani qui manerium predictum dedit [Faramo] de Bolonia pro servicio i militis" in Somerset[609]. The Testa de Nevill includes a list of landholdings in the honour of Boulogne, dated to [1217/18], which includes "Sibilla de Fenes" holding "vi milites…in Lamburne, ii milites in Fifide et Blakehall et Lacfare…"[610]. The Pipe Roll 1223 records “Sibilla de Fiednes” owing “de de Honore Bolon” in Essex/Hertfordshire[611]. Enguerrand & his wife had [five or more] children: a) GUILLAUME [I] de Fiennes (-[17 Oct 1239/4 Jul 1240]). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[612]. “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[613]. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Willelmus de Fienes" held "manerium de Mortok que fuit de dominico regis de dono comitis Willelmi filii Reginaldi filii Stephani qui manerium predictum dedit [Faramo] de Bolonia pro servicio i militis" in Somerset[614]. An undated order (listed between orders dated 16/17 Oct 1239) granted respite to “William de Fiennes” for certain scutages[615]. An undated order (listed with orders dated 4 Jul 1240) records that King Henry III “upon the death of William de Fiennes, has taken homage from Enguerrand, son and heir of the said William” for his lands[616]. m AGNES de Dammartin, daughter of AUBRY [II] Comte de Dammartin & his wife Mathilde de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis (-after 10 Apr 1244). “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[617]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by an enquiry in 1267 which adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[618]. An order dated 10 Apr 1244 relating to “manerium de Marthoc...quod fuit Enger de Fenles”, permitted “Agn. matrem ipsius Inger” to administer aspects of the property[619]. Guillaume & his wife had six children: i) ENGUERRAND [II] de Fiennes (before 1 Jan 1203-after 18 Jul 1267). “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[620]. - see below. ii) MATHILDE de Fiennes (-after 1244). Her parentage is confirmed by a charter of Ardres dated 1232 which records a dispute between "Balduinum" and "dominum Willelmum de Fielnes socerum eius"[621]. The testament of "Baudewins cuens de Ghisnes et castelains de Broborgh", dated 1244, made gifts "par le creancement Mahaut me femme e Ernol mon fil ainnei e mon hoir"[622]. m BAUDOUIN [III] Comte de Guines, son of ARNOUL Comte de Guines & his wife Beatrix de Bourbourg (-after May 1244). iii) BAUDOUIN de Fiennes (-after May 1270). An enquiry in 1267 adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[623]. m ([Jul 1248/Dec 1252]) as her second husband, MELISENDE Kiéret [Qui%C3%A9ret], widow of ARNOUL [III] de Cayeux Seigneur de Longvilliers, daughter of HUGUES [II] Kiéret Seigneur de Douriez & his wife Agnes d’Hermelinghen (-after [1257/58]). iv) RENAUD de Fiennes (-after 1235). v) MICHEL de Fiennes (-after 1267). Pope Urban IV mandated “Michael de Fienes canon of Terouanne...” regarding disturbing the archbishop of Canterbury, dated 24 Feb 1264[624]. An enquiry in 1267 adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[625]. vi) GUILLAUME de Fiennes (-after 1267). b) THOMAS de Fiennes (-after 1207). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[626]. “Thomas frater domini Willelmi de Fielnes” donated property to Andres abbey by charter dated 1207 witnessed by "Joannes de Tingri…"[627]. c) EUSTACHE de Fiennes . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[628]. d) daughters . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[629].

3. GILBERT de Fiennes . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Eustacium…Engelramnum…Gillebertum etiam de Belkinio…Radulphum" as the sons of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis"[630].

4. RAOUL de Fiennes (-after 1 Jan 1203). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Eustacium…Engelramnum…Gillebertum …Radulphum" as the sons of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis"[631]. “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[632]. m as her second husband, ADELAIDE de Champagne, widow of EUSTACHE de Calquelle, daughter of HENRI de Champagne & his wife Adelaide de Conteville. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Radulphum", son of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis", married "Henrici de Campania et Adelidis…de Contevilla filiam Adelidem" who had first married "Eustacio de Calquella"[633]. Raoul & his wife had [two or more] children: a) ADELAIDE de Fiennes . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Radulphum [de Fielnes]" and his wife "Henrici de Campania et Adelidis…de Contevilla filiam Adelidem" had "filias…unam Adelidem" who married "Balduinus de Hamis" by whom she had "Eustacium…Engelramnum et Balduinum"[634]. m BAUDOUIN de Hamis, son of ---.

Weis' Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, 8th Edition, 158B:24-26 Eustache II, the Old, Seigneur de Fiennes, son of Conan Seigneur and Barond de Fiennes and Alix de Bournonville. Eustache II was the father of Enguerrand I de Fiennes.

Sir Eustace II de Fiennes [a], Baron Fiennes, b abt 1126, d abt 1183/84. He md Margaret of Guines abt 1148, daughter of Arnoul/Arnulf I of Guines, Count of Gand, and Maud de St. Omer.

a. He was son or grandson of Eustace I and Adele de Selnesse, some sources placing an intervening generation between the two Eustaces, that of Conon, who was living in 1112.

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From http://cybergata.com/roots/1342.htm

Weis' Ancestral Roots . . ., 8th Edition, 158B:24-26

Eustache II, the Old, Seigneur de Fiennes, son of Conan Seigneur and Barond de Fiennes and Alix de Bournonville. Eustache II was the father of Enguerrand I de Fiennes. 1

http://www.knight-france.com/geneal/names/1247.htm

Alix DE BOURNONVILLE married Gouon DE FIENNES, Comte De Boulogne [1232] [MRIN: 978], son of Eustache I DE FIENNES [1233] and Adele DE SELVESSE [1245]. (Gouon DE FIENNES, Comte De Boulogne [1232] was born about 1060 in , , France and died after 1112 in , , England.)

Their son Eustache II DE FIENNES, "Le Vieil" [1178] married Françoise De Miraumont, dame du Bois en Ponthieu

Source <Dictionnaire de la noblesse, contenant les généalogies, l'histoire & la ...> Par François-Alexandre Aubert de la Chesnaye des Bois,Badier:

"... Quant à la Généalogie de la Maison de Fiennes, la voici d'après l'hiftoire des grands Officiers de la Couronne, Tome VI, p. 167.

I. Eustache , ...

II. Conon , ...

III. Eustache , II. du nom , Seigneur De Fiennes , surnommé le Vieux , fonda l'Abbaye de Beaulieu en Boulonnois. Il eut de fa femme , dont le nom est ignoré , - 1. Eustache , Seigneur De Fiennes , dit le jeune , mort fans enfans de Marguerite de Guines , fille d'Arnoul de Gand, Comte de Guines, & de Mahaud de Saint-Omer. Sa veuve se remaria à Roger, Châtelain de Courtray; - 2. ENGUERRAND , qui suit; - 3. Raoul , Seigneur de Flamerselle , qui n'eut point d'enfans d'Adélais de Campagne , Dame d'Ardres , veuve d'Eustache , Seigneur de Cauquielle, & fille aînée de Henri, Seigneur d'Ardres, & d'Adélais de Conteville; - 4. & Adélaïs , mariée à Baudouin de Campagne , Seigneur de Hames , frère de Henri de Campagne. ..."

Source <Fragmens généalogiques> Par Dumont:

"Eustache de Fiennes, chevalier, baron de Fiennes, II du nom, dit le vieil, épousa Françoise de Miraumont, dame du Bois en Ponthieu. il fonda l'abbaye de Beaulieu. De cette alliance naquirent: 1. Eustache, baron de Fiennes, dit le Hardi, chevalier, époux de Marguerite de Guines (vairé d'or et d'azur),fille d'Arnoud, dit le grand, comte de Guiesnes; 2. Enguerrand, qui suit; 3. Guillebert de Fiennes, chevalier, seigneur de Beautrain; 4. Raoul de Fiennes, chevalier, seigneur de Slamerselle, mariée avec Adèle de Campagne (vairé d'or et d'azur, à la bande d'argent), dame d'Ardres; et 5. d'Adèle de Fiennes, femme de Baudouin de Hames (vairé d'or et d'azur), chevalier, seigneur de Hames dit de Campagnes."

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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiennes#Eustache_II_de_Fiennes

In 1117, Eustache II de Fiennes, known as the Old Man, son of Conon, was cited in a charter in which he ceded jurisdiction over lands given by one of his parents to the Abbey of Saint-Médard d'Andres 22 . In 1137, the same Eustache, or his son of the same name, was mentioned in another charter concerning the same monastery 23 . Eustache II founded the Abbey of Beaulieu de Ferques 20 .

Eustache II fathered several children:

1. Eustache III Fiennes says the Younger , eldest son of the Old Eustace, lord of Fiennes, first husband of Marguerite de Guines, daughter of Arnould I st of Guines , young dies childless 24 .
2. Enguerrand de Fiennes who will continue the line.
3. Gislebert de Fiennes becomes Lord of Beautrin.
4. Raoul or Rodolphe de Fiennes, lord of Flamersele, wife Adelis de Campagnes ( Campagne-lès-Guînes ), eldest daughter of Henry de Campagnes, lord of Andres and Adelis de Conteuille. Adelis de Campagne was widow of Eustache, lord of Calquelle or Cauquelles, ( Coquelles ) to whom she brought the lordship of Andres as a dowry. Adelis died before Raoul without having had children by him 20 . Rodolphe, knight, ceded in 1198 to the abbey of Andres of the tithes which he had in Loo ( Lo) in present-day Belgium, in exchange for a wood 25
5. Adelis de Fiennes takes for husband Baudouin dit de Campagnes ( Campagnes-lès-Guînes ), lord of Hams ( Hames-Boucres), brother of Henry de Campagnes, lord of Andres 20.

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• http://www.geneajourney.com/fienn.html cites
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