Lord Enguerrand de Fiennes, sire de Fiennes, lord of Martock jure uxoris, gouverneur...

Curator (dvb) Note: Enguerrand has three reliably reported death dates. 1) shown here Cawley says 1218. 2) Etienne Pattou says 1207 (ou plus tôt, en 1189, à Acre ?). 3) 1189 in Acre shows a preponderance on other internet sites and and is plausible as it was the first year of the 3rd crusade. He appears, according to Pattou, to have disappeared during or after the “crossing” assumed to be to the Holy Land with with Thomas, his son, and Philippe of Alsace, count of Flanders (1207).

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ENGUERRAND [I] de Fiennes (-1218). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Eustacium…Engelramnum…Gillebertum …Radulphum" as the sons of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis"[605].

m (before 1171) SIBYLLE de Tingry, daughter of FARAMUS de Boulogne & his wife Mathilde --- (-after 29 Sep 1223). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Engelramnum", son of "Eustacius…senex de Fielnis", married "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam, Willelmi Faramus sororem"[606]. Faramus donated the tithes of Sombres to the abbey of St Josse “cum uxore Matilda et Sibilla filia mea”, with the consent of “Matheo Boloniense comite et heredibus meis Ingeranno de Fienles et uxore eius Sibilla filia mea”, by charter dated 1171[607]. “Sibilla de Tyngria filia Farami de Bolonia, domina de Clopham” confirmed the donation of land “in Balgehem, quæ pertinebat ad manerium de Clopham” [see her father’s confirmation] to Bec Abbey by undated charter[608]. Her dowry was the manor of Mortok in Somerset, as shown by the Testa de Nevill which includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Willelmus de Fienes" held "manerium de Mortok que fuit de dominico regis de dono comitis Willelmi filii Reginaldi filii Stephani qui manerium predictum dedit [Faramo] de Bolonia pro servicio i militis" in Somerset[609]. The Testa de Nevill includes a list of landholdings in the honour of Boulogne, dated to [1217/18], which includes "Sibilla de Fenes" holding "vi milites…in Lamburne, ii milites in Fifide et Blakehall et Lacfare…"[610]. The Pipe Roll 1223 records “Sibilla de Fiednes” owing “de de Honore Bolon” in Essex/Hertfordshire[611]. Enguerrand & his wife had [five or more] children:

a) GUILLAUME [I] de Fiennes (-[17 Oct 1239/4 Jul 1240]). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[612]. “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[613]. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Willelmus de Fienes" held "manerium de Mortok que fuit de dominico regis de dono comitis Willelmi filii Reginaldi filii Stephani qui manerium predictum dedit [Faramo] de Bolonia pro servicio i militis" in Somerset[614]. An undated order (listed between orders dated 16/17 Oct 1239) granted respite to “William de Fiennes” for certain scutages[615]. An undated order (listed with orders dated 4 Jul 1240) records that King Henry III “upon the death of William de Fiennes, has taken homage from Enguerrand, son and heir of the said William” for his lands[616]. m AGNES de Dammartin, daughter of AUBRY [II] Comte de Dammartin & his wife Mathilde de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis (-after 10 Apr 1244). “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[617]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by an enquiry in 1267 which adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[618]. An order dated 10 Apr 1244 relating to “manerium de Marthoc...quod fuit Enger de Fenles”, permitted “Agn. matrem ipsius Inger” to administer aspects of the property[619]. Guillaume & his wife had six children: i) ENGUERRAND [II] de Fiennes (before 1 Jan 1203-after 18 Jul 1267). “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[620]. - see below. ii) MATHILDE de Fiennes (-after 1244). Her parentage is confirmed by a charter of Ardres dated 1232 which records a dispute between "Balduinum" and "dominum Willelmum de Fielnes socerum eius"[621]. The testament of "Baudewins cuens de Ghisnes et castelains de Broborgh", dated 1244, made gifts "par le creancement Mahaut me femme e Ernol mon fil ainnei e mon hoir"[622]. m BAUDOUIN [III] Comte de Guines, son of ARNOUL Comte de Guines & his wife Beatrix de Bourbourg (-after May 1244). iii) BAUDOUIN de Fiennes (-after May 1270). An enquiry in 1267 adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[623]. m ([Jul 1248/Dec 1252]) as her second husband, MELISENDE Kiéret [Qui%C3%A9ret], widow of ARNOUL [III] de Cayeux Seigneur de Longvilliers, daughter of HUGUES [II] Kiéret Seigneur de Douriez & his wife Agnes d’Hermelinghen (-after [1257/58]). iv) RENAUD de Fiennes (-after 1235). v) MICHEL de Fiennes (-after 1267). Pope Urban IV mandated “Michael de Fienes canon of Terouanne...” regarding disturbing the archbishop of Canterbury, dated 24 Feb 1264[624]. An enquiry in 1267 adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[625]. vi) GUILLAUME de Fiennes (-after 1267).

b) THOMAS de Fiennes (-after 1207). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[626]. “Thomas frater domini Willelmi de Fielnes” donated property to Andres abbey by charter dated 1207 witnessed by "Joannes de Tingri…"[627].

c) EUSTACHE de Fiennes . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[628].

d) daughters . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Willelmum, Thomam et Eustacium et filias" as the children of "de Fielnis…Engelramnum" and his wife "nobilem de Tingreio Sibillam…"[629]. __________

The manor of MARTOCK was held in 1066 by Queen Edith, wife of Edward the Confessor. After the Conquest it passed to the Crown and in the late 11th or early 12th century it was granted to Eustace, count of Boulogne. (fn. 110) Eustace settled his lands on his daughter Maud, wife of Stephen, later King of England (d. 1154), and the manor passed to her son William, Count of Boulogne (d. 1159). (fn. 111) William granted it to his cousin Pharamus of Boulogne (d. 1183–4), grandson of Eustace's illegitimate son Geoffrey. (fn. 112) Pharamus's daughter Sibyl, wife of Ingram de Fiennes (d. 1189), held it in 1199, and by 1206 it had descended to her son William (I). (fn. 113) Probably on his death and during the minority of his heir it formed part of the dower of Queen Berengaria. (fn. 114) From 1209 it was in the hands of the Crown, but William de Fiennes (II) was given seisin in 1216. (fn. 115) William still held it in 1230 but by 1244 his son Ingram de Fiennes (d. c. 1270) had inherited it. (fn. 116) In 1270 Walter de Fiennes leased it to Eleanor, wife of the Lord Edward, (fn. 117) and in 1275 William de Fiennes (III) made a further lease to Eleanor, then queen. (fn. 118)

William (III) (d. 1302) was succeeded by his son John, who leased the manor for life to Benet de Folsham in 1328. (fn. 119) The manor was confiscated by the Crown in 1337, in consequence of John's connexions with France, and committed to the custody of William Montacute, earl of Salisbury (d. 1344), who received the manor in fee in 1340. (fn. 120)

A P Baggs and R J E Bush. "Parishes: Martock," in A History of the County of Somerset: Volume 4, ed. R W Dunning (London: Victoria County History, 1978), 78-109. British History Online, accessed May 3, 2021, http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/som/vol4/pp78-109.

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Other names for Ingelram were Enguerrand and DE FIESNES.

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Source <Nobiliaire des Pays-Bas et du Comté de Bourgogne: 1862> Par Jean-Charles-Joseph De Vegiano (seigneur d'Hovel),Jacques Salomon François Joseph Léon de Herckenrode:

"... III. Eustache de Fiennes, chevalier, baron de Fiennes, deuxième du nom, dit le Viel, épousa Françoise De Miraumont, dame du Bois en Ponthieu. Il fonda l'abbaye de Beaulieu. Ses enfants furent:

... iV. Enguerrand baron de Fiennes, seigneur du Bois, par la mort de son frère aîné. Sa femme, Sibille De Tingry, dame de Ruminghen, portait pour armes: fascé, bretessé et contre-bretessée d'argent et de gueules de six pièces (Fig. 301). Leur fils Thomas suit. ..."

First Knights Templar To The Holy Land. Loyal Crusader To The King. Died Fighting For His God And King In The Holy Land 1189AD- Jerusalem (No source quoted).

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Prior to Enguerran I, the lords of Fiennes had no recorded connection with England. Their overlords the counts of Boulogne possessed a huge estate across the channel; their neighbours the counts of Guînes owned some property there too, including the manor of Newington (near Hythe) in Kent; the lords of Fiennes had nothing. In addition to the lordship of Fiennes, which came to him on the death of his elder brother, Ingelram (= Enguerran) became the owner of other lands, in England as well as Boulonnais, through marrying the only daughter of a man named Pharamus (or Faramus) -- called "de Tingry" on one side of the channel, "de Boulogne" on the other. The daughter's name was Sibilla. Lambert knew about this marriage: he identified Sibilla (correctly) as the sister of Willelm Pharamus. (Duchesne confused the issue by calling Sibilla's brother "lord of Tingry". He was never that: he died before his father.) Dugdale (1676, p 243) knew about it too -- not from Lambert or Duchesne, but from two documents which he had printed in the first volume of the "Monasticon Anglicanum" (1655). (They relate to a hide of land in Balham, part of the manor of Clapham in Surrey, given by Pharamus to the monks of Le Bec.) The facts were worked out in detail by Round (1896), and this is how the pieces fit together: (See original document for chart: http://www.kentarchaeology.ac/digiarchive/ColinFlight/dover-constab... brothers (or half-brothers) of his, Eustache and Simon, are named as witnesses in his charter for Le Bec (Dugdale 1655, p 583). Pharamus occurs for the first time in the exchequer roll for 1130 (GREx 1130:50, an entry under Surrey, brought forward from the year before). A charter of his, "not much later than 1130", is witnessed by several men whose surnames derive from places in Boulonnais; so apparently Pharamus was, by then, already in possession of Tingry (Round 1896, p 151, 1901, p 160). Whether he inherited it, or had it given to him, is (I gather) impossible to say. During the reign of Stephan, Pharamus was an active supporter of the king (and of the queen, his cousin, countess of Boulogne in her own right); but he managed to come to terms with the new regime, after 1154. It seems that he may have played some helpful part in facilitating the transfer of power -- a part rewarded both by Stephan's son, Willelm count of Boulogne, who gave him the manor of Martock in Somerset, and by the new king, who gave him the manor of Wendover in Buckinghamshire. This grant of Wendover generated an entry in the exchequer roll, in the account of the sheriff of Bucks and Beds, under the heading "Terrae datae" (lands which had formerly belonged to the king but had now been given away). That entry gets carried forwards from one roll to the next until 1184; in the next roll Pharamus's name is replaced by that of his son-in-law, Ingelram de Fiennes (GREx 1185:130, cf 1184:112). Presumably the rest of Sibilla's inheritance passed into Ingelram's hands at the same time.

It did not stay there long. According to Lambert, Ingelram (Enguerrand) travelled to the Holy Land with Philip count of Flanders. Once there, he made a charge against the Saracens from which he did not return, and was never seen again. Lambert, as he usually is, is vague about the date (count Philip made two visits to the Holy Land), but -- a fact not mentioned, perhaps overlooked, by Dugdale -- Ingelram's name shows up in the list of crusader casualties reported by Roger de Hoveden under the year 1190 ("Ingeram de Fenes, killed", ed Savile 1596, fo 390v, ed Stubbs 1870, p 88). So presumably he met his death at the siege of Acre in 1190. Source: http://www.kentarchaeology.ac/digiarchive/ColinFlight/dover-constab...

Enguerrand "Ingleram" de Fiennes formerly Fiennes Born 1128 in Marstock, Somersetmap Son of Eustace (Fiennes) de Fiennes and Margaret (Guisnes) Fiennes [sibling%28s%29 unknown] Husband of Sybilla de or Tingre Boulogne — married [date unknown] [location unknown] Father of John (De Fiennes) Fiennes and William Fiennes Sheriff of	 Died 1189 in Acre, Palestinemap Profile manager: Jacques Pictet private message [send private message] Last profile change on 5 March 2014 18:36: Jacques Pictet adopted the profile of Enguerrand de Fiennes. [Thank Jacques for this] This page has been accessed 464 times. Nominate for Profile of the Week by posting the link http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fiennes-74 in our G+ Community. Vote by clicking the +1 button above.

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Ingelram Enguerrand I* De Fiennes MyHeritage family trees jacobs Web Site, managed by kathleen jacobs (Contact) Birth: 1128 - Martock, Somerset, England Death: 1190 - Seige Acre, Holy Land, Yerushalayim, Israel Parents: Sir EUSTACE* de FIENNES, Lady Anne* de FIENNES (born de DREUX) Siblings: Alan DeFiennes, William DeFiennes Wife: Sibyl de FIENNES (born DeTingry) Son: Sir William I Sheriff of Somerset Baron of Wendover Crusader Knight DeFiennes

Ingelram Enguerrand I Crusader Knight Defiennes MyHeritage family trees Arbre genealogique de Paquet (1) in Paquet Web Site, managed by Jeanne-Aimée Paquet (Contact) Birth: 1147 - Martock, Somerset, England Death: 1190 - Seige Acre, Holy Land, Yerushalayim, Israel Parents: Eustace II (Baron of Fiennes) DeFiennes, Anne DeFiennes (née de Dreux) Brother: Ingelram Lord of Martock de Fiennes Wife: Sybilla De DeFiennes (née Boulogne) Wife: Sibyl DeFiennes (née DeBoulogne) Children: Sir William I Sheriff of Somerset Baron of Wendover Crusader Knight DeFiennes, John DeFiennes, Thomas de Fiennes, Eustasche DeFiennes, William DeFiennes, <Private> DeFiennes, <Private> DeFiennes
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